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Woogie Man 07-12-2009 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2709365)
i agree with you and the name calling is beyond believe from someone who is 'supposedly' held in such high regard. Where oh where is admin and why has this person not been banned. anne i also know from here and Squirrel? well just suffice it to say I have heard of her for years. her posts on here just proves that what I have heard was right. Nuff said.
I have reported her to admin and am waiting for the shoe to drop.

Sugar's Mom 07-12-2009 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by squirrelyorkies (Post 2709364)
I am sorry if I offended anyone, but when I am slandered without basis, then I get my back up to the wall.

All my puppy buyers get papers once they have fulfilled the terms they have agreed to. It is amazing how many unethical people are out there.

Ever wonder where the non-show people get their dogs from? Show people will not sell without a non-breeding agreement. So, if this is true, then they are either getting their dogs from other non-show people, pet stores or are breeding dogs whom they are contractually (not to mention ethically) not suppose to be breeding.

I have an amazing relationship with my puppy buyers. I have always and will always be there for them...more so for the dog...I answer emails, phone calls...I help with grooming tips, training tips, etc.

When someone says that a 6-month old puppy that was too small to be used for breeding is attacking 2 other dogs, it should make everyone's red flags go up...It makes ZERO sense.

Anyway, think I'll leave you guys to yourselves. This is not a venue I am comfortable in...the breeding of dogs just for the sake of making a buck has never and will never be what I do this for...as it is, I live a less than possible lifestyle just to have and enjoy my dogs...I have yet to come out of the red in this hobby.

3 years ago I flew to Paris, France to rescue one of my dogs...I'm sure you'll all agree just how unethical and uncaring a breeder I am!!
just curious, did you sell Squirrel's Porsche Boxster? is he one of your dogs or was he sold to someone else to breed?

squirrelyorkies 07-12-2009 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2709368)
I have reported her to admin and am waiting for the shoe to drop.
Reported me? ROTFLMAO

For what? Defending myself? Calling a situation pathetic? Calling byb's wannabe?

Hmmmm....Okey Dokey Smokey.

Anyway...I've said my peace. Since no proof has been given, I rest my case. I never sold this person a dog. She needs to take it up with the breeder.

Although, I don't really see what she needs to take up?

She bought a puppy she claims was vicious at only 6 months old. That just doesn't make any sense - no matter whom the puppy came from.

She says her puppy caught Parvo. (a lot of animals have caught Parvo). I just don't see how that is any breeders problem.

She says that she had her dog spayed and did not provide proof to her breeder. She says she never got her papers although in order to get them she needed to provide proof.

It is just WEIRD!!!!

squirrelyorkies 07-12-2009 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2709370)
just curious, did you sell Squirrel's Porsche Boxster? is he one of your dogs or was he sold to someone else to breed?

I sold him to someone who broke my contract.

He was bred to an unethical person and his get (or at least one of his get) ended up in a very less than desirable place.

It still saddens me.

squirrelyorkies 07-12-2009 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 2709370)
just curious, did you sell Squirrel's Porsche Boxster? is he one of your dogs or was he sold to someone else to breed?

P.S. He was sold as a show dog and is a Champion.

Sugar's Mom 07-12-2009 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by squirrelyorkies (Post 2709377)
P.S. He was sold as a show dog and is a Champion.


is he still living and is he a Canadian Champion? i would love to see pictures of him.

yorkiekist 07-12-2009 02:14 PM
What saddens me the most is not the name calling. Its the fact that everytime a chance to bash a reputable breeder comes up, it is done with such glee. People come out of the woodwork to try to dig up dirt on that reputable breeder. Its almost like a jealous thing. Everybody on this forum HATES BYBERS AND MILLS AND UNREPTUABLE BREEDERS and then you crap on the very people/breeders that do their very best to breed the very best Yorkies. And you wonder why we have strict contracts.

Lorraine 07-12-2009 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2709368)
I have reported her to admin and am waiting for the shoe to drop.
oh I guess no one is allowed to defend themselves. Do you really think that would be right?

squirrelyorkies 07-12-2009 02:17 PM
When my mother got cancer last year and my 29 year old cousin died suddenly, I decided that there were FAR more important things in life than the drama that comes along with breeding dogs.

I stand 100% behind all my dogs and have ethics beyond reproach.

If, for some reason, someone has a problem with me, all they'd need to do is contact me and I would help in any way I could. How can I be blamed for something I don't know about?

That being said, I deal with honestly. I don't like liars and do not lie myself.

The world is full of less than reputable people in every walk of life - dogs and dog shows are no different.

Debbie Hiebert,
Squirrel Yorkshire Terriers
Breeder of over 60 champions in over 12 countries
Breeder of Best In Show, Best In Specialty Show winners in 4 countries

011011 07-12-2009 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by squirrelyorkies (Post 2709302)
Professional??? Really? What are we talking about here? Professional dog breeder? That is NOT me. That will NEVER be me. Anyone who is a professional at this is either a back-yard-breeder or a puppy mill...All reputable breeders consider this a hobby...I love my dogs, I love the breed, I look to produce the highest quality dogs for ME. I have few litters and enjoy showing my dogs as a HOBBY.

Just who are you? I can run circles around you blindfolded in my knowledge of this breed and dogs in general.

Wannabes...How Pathetic.

And, believe me, I have an ABSOLUTE right to be upset when some idiot is slandering me AND IT IS ALL FABRICATED.
Hobby breeder's usually get bashed here for being a BYB I am glad for once a breeder has classified them selves as a hobby breeder:thumbup::thumbup:
I do not think you are a BYB do not get my post wrong please.

Woogie Man 07-12-2009 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2709386)
What saddens me the most is not the name calling. Its the fact that everytime a chance to bash a reputable breeder comes up, it is done with such glee. People come out of the woodwork to try to dig up dirt on that reputable breeder. Its almost like a jealous thing. Everybody on this forum HATES BYBERS AND MILLS AND UNREPTUABLE BREEDERS and then you crap on the very people/breeders that do their very best to breed the very best Yorkies. And you wonder why we have strict contracts.
I have no problem with people writing whatever contract suits them. I DO have a problem with with someone coming on here and calling someone a liar and an idiot. It's not what YorkieTalk is about and, IMO, we don't need such people here.

I do know what you mean about some people bashing a breeder but this is a whole 'nother thing.

squirrelyorkies 07-12-2009 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 011011 (Post 2709393)
Hobby breeder's usually get bashed here for being a BYB I am glad for once a breeder has classified them selves as a hobby breeder:thumbup::thumbup:
I do not think you are a BYB do not get my post wrong please.
I am definitely a hobby breeder...but one with ethics. I don't contribute to the over-populations of animals just for the sake of making a buck.

I have at least 10 buyers for every puppy I produces, which makes me very blessed in being able to find the very best homes for my puppies.

Have I made mistakes in choosing a home...sure...I'm sure all breeders have. But, I've always, but ALWAYS stood behind my dogs.

I really think that most reputable and ethical show breeders such as myself would consider this a hobby. Am I a pro at the breed - yes...but not a pro at being a breed-ER!!

yorkiekist 07-12-2009 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2709398)
I have no problem with people writing whatever contract suits them. I DO have a problem with with someone coming on here and calling someone a liar and an idiot. It's not what YorkieTalk is about and, IMO, we don't need such people here.

I do know what you mean about some people bashing a breeder but this is a whole 'nother thing.
LOL! I guess I am showing my age or my thick skin. I have been called much worse. But I can sling it back just as easy. I understand what you are saying though. I do think that Debbie has the right to defend herself against this person. She has never produced the papers on the dog to prove her story.

crystalsmom 07-12-2009 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 2709387)
oh I guess no one is allowed to defend themselves. Do you really think that would be right?
I agree although I think it was well intended, it never leaves us with answers and that just leaves two people questionable.

julietimothy 07-12-2009 02:29 PM
Please never order a puppy, find a breeder that is close so you can drive and see the puppies, adults, the way they are raised. You need to read on this site about the very sick puppies people has gotten from ordering off line. You could be ordering from a broker or puppy mill.


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