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i don't EVER report people for saying what they say(i will not report this thread either), because i do believe that people should be able to say what they think. it is very important to me. i am glad that you are saying how you feel and explaining why you think some knowledgeable people left this forum. but in the end, these knowledgeable people that left this forum because they are unhappy for whatever reason, are just useless to me. the best people are people who stay around and try to help out no matter what. i do wish more knowledgeable stick around and participate. but if people decide to leave then their knowledge is really just useless don't you think? what good does it do anyone? |
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When I said overly sensitive, to be honest (and you like honesty, right?) I meant starting a thread like this where you say that getting a thread closed is "stiffling". I think it's great if you know a lot about yorkies, I would love to know more. But being knowledgable and passionate does not give you the right to be rude to other people. Not saying that you personally are, just that EVERYONE has to learn about tact and tone. If you are constantly being rebuffed, isn't there just the tiniest possibility that it's your approach, and not a failure of everyone else to listen? |
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Just want to say how much I appreciate all you and other breeders like you, who have posted on Yorkietalk. I never would have found Joey or even bought a purebred if it hadn't been for all the advice I read on Yorkietalk. I read hundreds of threads before I ever posted, and found the breeding forum really useful in terms of learning about ethical breeding practices, and why it's important not just for the dog you are buying, but for the future of the breed. I've read some threads and I've wondered how some of you could remain. You in particular, have always struck me as someone who's always learning about the breed and never comes off as a know-it-all, but just tries to share your knowledge. I know it gets frustrating for you, and I just want to give you a big thank you. You have taught many people not only about breeding, but how to choose a good breeder, and I'm trying my best to share with others what I've learned from you, and others like you. You are one of my heros! |
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I personally think that "blunt but tactful" is an oxymoron. Maybe you manage to pull it off, in which case, I am truly impressed and want to be you. I guess what is bothering me is that if you tell it like it is... well, of course some people are going to be offended. That's the definition of bluntness. If you can live with offending people, that's up to you, but you can't be rude and AND demand that people ignore it. |
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i always say how i feel, and i am always prepared for the possibility that my posts/threads might be closed or deleted. i don't see it as being stifled if my posts/threads are deleted. this is a large community, there are rules that must be followed to make sure things run smoothly. i would probably be pretty mad if my thread/post is deleted or closed. but i would understand or seek to understand why. i would not attack this forum by saying that reputable breeders are stifled. but that is just me, and i think it's fine if you feel that way and wanted to start a post with a title like that. but you should of course be prepared and not be too surprised if this thread gets closed. YOU might leave this forum at anytime because you get angry with something here. and not be here to help anyone who needs help. but YT will still be here and hopefully YT will be here forever to help all those who need help with their yorkies. |
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Fair enough. Seriously, I am interested in topics that you want to discuss but feel you cannot. Have you considered asking YT to stop the puppy sales forum if that really bothers you? Just to be clear, I haven't seen many of your posts, so I'm not saying you have a bad or good approach generally, I don't know. I was going off your statement that people often accuse you of being holier than thou. |
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i think we are all frustrated. i am frustrated that knowledgeable breeders are attacked or feel that they are attacked when they say what they think. and i am also frustrated that they decide to leave and not help because they are ticked off. everyone who is lucky enough to stumble upon this forum needs to stay. to help each other!!!!! |
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