What do you think of this breeder?

[mypreciouspups]

Interesting thread Sheilagh...I looked at the biewer site.. wow what beauties they are... anne

[GreenwoodBiewer]

Originally Posted by saphire

I think she bought her Biewer puppy from another breeder in S.A.
I was surprised to learn that there are about 10 breeders here in S.A.
Some good, some not so good!

I got my yorkies from Countryblu Yorkshire Terriers - In pursuit of perfection and index , unfortunately they do not breed Biewers, as I know I could trust these ladies.

I have had a look at Amoureux web site.. her dogs are beautiful!
I have been very keen to get a Biewer, this is where I will look when the time is right. Thanks for posting her info.

I'm sorry, I stand corrected.. thanks for checking on this.. good luck in finding your perfect little Biewer someday.

-Diana

[EnchantedToi]

Quote taken from the website


"NB. WAITING LIST:
PUPS WILL BE SUPPLIED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THE DEPOSITS WERE RECEIVED."



spoken like a true greeder.. it all comes down to supply and demand

[Marilize]

Is there anything that can be done to either stop what she is doing or to raise awareness (without being sued - she is apparently very trigger happy)? It breaks my heart that she is doing all of this for the money and she doesn't even care for her dogs!

Is there someone I can report her to?

[saphire]

Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer

I'm sorry, I stand corrected.. thanks for checking on this.. good luck in finding your perfect little Biewer someday.

-Diana

No problem I had been researching Biewers a while ago and remembered seeing her name in the Club that Enchanted Toi mentioned.

I need to go back and read on that site again!

[saphire]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

Interesting thread Sheilagh...I looked at the biewer site.. wow what beauties they are... anne

Well Anne, seen as Lisa got your Piper.... lol.... I have to look elsewhere!!

[saphire]

Originally Posted by Marilize

Is there anything that can be done to either stop what she is doing or to raise awareness (without being sued - she is apparently very trigger happy)? It breaks my heart that she is doing all of this for the money and she doesn't even care for her dogs!

Is there someone I can report her to?

Gee Marilize, I don't know.... I'm sure you must have seen so many "strange" looking yorkies around S.A. Don't get me wrong, I adore all yorkies, but just by looking at some of them, you know they came from bad breeders, either greedy show or back yard. I have given up telling people the ills of "tea cups" they look at me as though I'm mad... I mean "who am I to talk as I have a LARGE boy!"

I even got kicked out of a pet shop for airing my views!

What we need here in S.A. is a forum like YT, that all of us South Africans here on this forum can join and try to educate the unsuspecting buyers.
There are quite a lot of us now, but I certainly don't have a clue as to starting or running a site

One of the vets I use has three yorkies with brain damage that he rescued from a BYB!

If you come up with any ideas, let me know.. I'll help where I can.

[saphire]

Oh, something else.. you got me going here... just because I have a girl and a boy, every second person I meet asks if I breed with them or won't I please breed them.. they want a puppy because mine are so beautiful.

When I tell them they were sold to me with breeding restrictions they get all uppity and say "how can a breeder do that? You should be allowed to breed your own dogs!" Well sorry for them , they are both neutered and even if they weren't I wouldn't anyway!

Sometimes I explain the reasons and some days I just give up!

[Marilize]

I would really like to start a club like YTCA here in SA. Or maybe start an affiliate club of YTCA. I really think that SA needs to open their eyes to what they are doing to yorkies. There are so many greeders and BYBs here, it is unbelievable.

I am going to contact the YTCA and see what they think. Either we can be an affiliate of theirs or we can start a similar club for Yorkies, since there isn't one in SA.

So, all SA YTalkers, are you in?

[saphire]

I'm in!

[Marilize]

I am waiting to hear from the YTCA. I have a friend who is in IT and another who is a graphic designer for websites. I can recruit both of them to help us set up a site. I was thinking in the lines of yorkietalk mixed with the YTCA website, i.e. a forum with information pages as well. The info will be on the home page and the forum can be on additional pages. What do you think?

I am going to need all the South African YTalkers to help me with this! I am posting another thread in the General Discussion forum to ask other South Africans to help.

[saphire]

Great stuff Marilize! Or as Lauren would say.....Lekker!

I will try to find all our S.A ladies' pages and drop them a note about your post.

I am a moderator on another forum, and would be happy to help you.

Oh my goodness, my hubby is going to divorce me.... I spend so much time on forums as it is!

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer

Well, if she doesn't have a breeding pair then she purchased that baby.. so SOMEBODY didn't do a proper job of screening this new owner. We as a group, pride ourselves in really checking out new Biewer parents.. someone did not do their job or was deceived. It's usually difficult to purchase Biewers with breeding rights from most breeders. The hoops that one needs to jump through are usually pretty high, obviously, these weren't high enough!

There are not very many people who call this breed a Biewer Terrier. They are not known by that name in their country of origin or anywhere else in the world, so she must have purchased that puppy in the US..

If looking in SA, I also suggest Amoureux - Biewer A'la Pom Pon

-great lady, great dogs.. it will be a great experience.

-Diana

Originally Posted by saphire

I think she bought her Biewer puppy from another breeder in S.A.
I was surprised to learn that there are about 10 breeders here in S.A.
Some good, some not so good!



I have had a look at Amoureux web site.. her dogs are beautiful!
I have been very keen to get a Biewer, this is where I will look when the time is right. Thanks for posting her info.

Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer

I'm sorry, I stand corrected.. thanks for checking on this.. good luck in finding your perfect little Biewer someday.

-Diana

8 of which are members of the club mentioned below.

Originally Posted by EnchantedToi

Sadly.. as the Breed grows in popularity, we will see these types of "greeders" popping up around the world.
She is a member of this Club Welcome to the Biewer (Yorkshire) Terrier Club of South Africa | biewer yorkshire terriers, biewer yorkies, biewer breed, biewer terriers,yorkie club,biewer breed club | Pretoria South Africa

[GreenwoodBiewer]

When examining the "Club" site further.. many things are becoming much clearer!! What a shame this wonderful breed is being sold down the river in SA. It amazes me what people will believe.

-Diana

[Pruett]

Originally Posted by GreenwoodBiewer

There are not very many people who call this breed a Biewer Terrier. They are not known by that name in their country of origin or anywhere else in the world, so she must have purchased that puppy in the US..

If looking in SA, I also suggest Amoureux - Biewer A'la Pom Pon

-great lady, great dogs.. it will be a great experience.

-Diana

If you check the number of members in the American clubs, I think you will find more breeders calling them Biewer Terriers. Nobody in the country of origin calls them Biewer Breed or Biewer a la Pom Pon. As it stands right now, there happens to be a group of breeders in Germany contemplating calling them Biewer Terriers.

Talking about greeders, I know of a couple of Biewer Yorkshire a la Pom Pon, or Biewer a la Pom Pon breeders saying how much they love their dogs and they ALL live in their home, and ................
Come to find out most of their beloved dogs live with other people, and they just bring in the money from the breeding's. Long distance love I guess.

There is still only one club World wide that has the co-originator of the breed's endorsement. Anyone saying they are following the dream and standard of Mr. and Mrs. Biewer are not telling the truth.