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Day 57 delivery - only 1 alive...help! Today is day 57 and Tinkerbell delivered 2 puppies before I got home today and they were not living. :( (I had come home during lunch to check on her and she ate some chicken for me and seemed okay) One more was born right after I got home and it was extremely small - then about 15 minutes later she delivered 1 more - it looked lifeless but I rubbed it with a towel and did the sling thing several times, rubbed some more and it gasped and started wiggling!!:D I put her next to Tinkerbell and she started licking her persistantly...:animal36 It has been about 1 1/2 hours and with assistance, she has been able to latch on to one of Tinkerbell's smaller teats. I am glued to the floor.. sitting by the playpen and staring at them...Tinkerbell seems perfectly content Has anyone had a premature puppy on day 57 that lived? I have a heating pad on low under a couple layers of bedding, I have a large towel draped over half of the playpen to prevent drafts and I am watching CLOSELY. Any suggestions for the night?? :confused: Please keep Tinkerbell and this tiny baby girl in your prayers! |
I have no advice but wanted to let you know I am sending prayers to Tinkerbell and her little baby girl... |
Does the puppy have hair? If the puppy is too premature it will not have hair and the skin will feel rubbery. Is the puppy breathing well on it's own? Premature puppies usually struggle to breath. How much does the puppy weigh? I am sorry for you loss and I pray the little surviving puppy will be okay. Do you think mom is through having puppies? |
God bless little Tink' and her baby. Thank God she has been left with one to care for, so she can have something to show for her efforts. I hope it does O.k. for you becuase that is young still. |
Oh my gosh...........I am so sorry for the loss of the 3(?) puppies and I will pray very hard for the surviving little one. Sounds like you are doing things right....keeping it warm and being sure it is latching on and eating. Others more knowledgable might be able to help you more with a bit more information. I hope that you also maybe called your vet for help also. Good luck to you; please keep us posted. |
Breathing okay Yes, the puppy has some hair, is breathing okay on its own - I tried to weigh her but I only have a food scale (not digital) and it doesn't really register she is so tiny. She does squeak:D - I haven't been able to get her to latch on the past 45 minutes. I have a syringe and express a little milk from mommy and tried putting in the babies mouth just to get some calories and nutrients. I will keep trying.....I did speak to my vet earlier and she pretty much said keep doing what I'm doing.....but it seems like I should being doing more!!! I am going to try and get her to nurse again.....thanks for caring!!;) |
Sending Prayers your babies way.. hugs, Carmen in nj |
While you're beside them, I'd lay a light blanket over the puppy to try to keep her warm as she nurses also. Be sure to keep her warm. |
When does the milk come in???? Is there something I can give this little one with a syringe? Should I try and put a little nutra-cal in her little mouth?? |
Praying for you and the girls, so sorry for you lose. I wish I could help but I have no idea, |
I do not consider myself an expert; but my little NaTasha had some difficulties with her delivery 10 days ago. We have one little baby girl that made it. Mom had to be on IV fluids at the vets for a couple of days and we fed the baby Esbilac through an eye dropper. She is thriving and seems to have learned how to nurse on Mom, but we are continuing to supplement for now. This is the first time I have had success with a newborn w/o Mom. But feeding every 2 1/2 hours, keeping her warm and making sure she was going potty seems to have been what she needed. The best of luck with your little one. I know how heart breaking it is when you lose even one baby. |
Praying for your babies and YOU! I have no words of wisdom regarding how to help your babies - but please know that your willingness to share your story brings each of us to our knees, realizing how much we love these furry little critters! We are so Blessed to have them in our lives... and I continue to be amazed at the miracle of birth and healthy babies! I don't think I have ever taken my beautiful little Molly for granted...but your story reminded me of watching my baby being born. Your love and support will help Tinkerbell and her baby more than anything else!! Hang in there! |
im not an expert by any means from i have found that the warmer you keep them the better they do ,our last litter we had 5 and 2 of them were 2ozs and i kept it about 93 to 95 dregrees for the frist couple of weeks .and just to supplement if they are not eating enough ..good luck and cant wait to see pictures |
What is esbilac? Where do you get it? Is there any other suggestions to use for a supplement till she gets stronger and Tinkerbells milk starts flowing better?? How often should I try and supplement her? Should I use a syringe or try and find a small dropper? |
Nutri-cal is not for newborns. Nutri-drops are. Please read this article for ideas: http://www.showpapillons.com/formula.htm I recently had a litter of 8 where two of the pups were really tiny and I made the glucose solution mention in the above article and I started giving them that along with some puppy formula, plus they were nursing on their momma and they did real well. You have to make sure the puppy is warm. Never try to feel a cold puppy. There is nothing like mothers milk so if you can express her milk that that would be good. The first few hours the mother produce colostrum with is important for the puppy to get. Continue to try to get her to nurse. A little karo syrup on mommas nipple might help. I pray your little one makes it. |
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No, do not use nutrical, but you could use a drop of nutri-drops if you have them. You may need to suppliment the baby. You can by milk replacer at any pet store...Petsmart, petco, Pet Supplies Plus, if she isn't nursing on mom, I'd be sure to make sure she is getting a suppliment. You may need to use a syringe depending on how small she is. I have used a premie nipple in the past. Keep up the good work!!! |
Thanks, I printed the article and I will read it right away. I'm happy to report the little girl has been latched on for about 5 minutes now....her mouth is so little though - I sure hope she is getting something for all her efforts! Also, it seems Tinkerbell has more milk now.....it's going to be a LONG night! |
Okay, should this little baby be sleeping most of the time.....whenever she is holding still I get worried about her and try to get her to latch on to Tinkerbell again...or I move her a little to make sure she wiggles. I don't know if I'm obsessing (?sp) to much and bothering the baby .... any comments? She is about 6 hours old now.... I cut down a box so the sides would be only about 6 inches high, put the heating pad in the bottom, a thick pad, then a blanket on top - it seems to be the right size for Tinker and her little angel and they are next to me on the bed. :) Bending over her in the playpen was killing my back - so this is better I think. |
I am of no help but just want to say hang in there. I will be thinking of you all night. Good luck! |
The little baby girl has made it through her first night! :D Does anyone have any experience with sub Q dextrose for tiny, premature puppies? I'm going to call the vet and ask her about that, also I will go to the pet store and get some nutri-drops as suggested. Since she's latching on (with assistance) she must getting some of Tinkerbells milk to have made it this far, right? I'm worried about her hydration.......(one of many worries):( You can see her tiny, itty bitty ribs! She is not fussy but does bob her head alot when trying to get a hold of Tinkerbell's big teats. She seems content when she does get latched on......I try to direct her to the smaller ones - but she has a mind of her own and a determined one at that! Thanks for everyones kind words, prayers and support.. |
I used to have dextrose for my goats when they went into labor but I never used it. I would discuss that with a vet before you use it if your not sure about it. (I cannot remember much about it) It sounds like your are paying close attention to this little ones needs, and that may make all the difference, she sure sounds tiny from what you describe. Good luck, keep us posted.:) |
I am so glad to hear that she has made it through her first night. If she is latching on for that long, I am sure she must be getting some milk from mama. Newborns do not do much more than eat and sleep & mom keeps them clean in the potty department. So I'd say if the baby is content & quiet when not nursing, her belly is probably full. Puppies cry when they are hungry or cold, or obviously if something is wrong. But if she is a tiny one, supplementing is not out of the question........how much or often would be better answered by someone with more experiance with it. Hopefully, since she's the only pup, she will get plenty from mom and gain weight & strength very soon. Do you know her weight yet. Being that small it is very important to keep track. We don't want her to lose weight..........every ounce matters when they are tiny! Continued wishes for good luck & prayers coming your way! |
I am so glad she made it through the night. At this age all she will do is eat and sleep. As long as she is nursing strongly she should not need anything else. To tell if she is nursing strong you should feel a little resistance when you pull her a nipple. Weak puppies of puppies with cleft puppies will go through the motions of nursing but are not strong enough to get milk out. How is momma doing? You need to keep a close eye on her breast that they do not get hard and red. If this happens she might need antibiotics. Also, be sure to monitors the mommas temperature for the next few days. Make sure momma gets plenty of food. I pray your little girl continues to do well. |
I have had pups with not much hair on them 7 days early. Only one made it ,tube fed then transfered to a bottle after a month. benebac and pet drops are a must for little ones . All my new babies get benebac and pet drops Glad to hear she made it through the night. I would talk to your vet about sub Q , it isnt needed if she is not dehydrated. Pedialite works good if you can get it to them in a bottle? 1 cc to 1 1/2 cc for a 2 oz pup Sub Q works immediatly though if she needs it. pet drops can get that slow un perky pup get going |
How is the little one doing? |
Vet visit..... Tinkerbell and the little angel are still doing well. We took them to a vet today (not our regular one that I spoke with on Wednesday night--that was essentially no help!) The little girl weighs 52 grams......and the vet gave her a 50/50 chance of surviving - that was after we showed him how she could latch on to Tink's teat. Prior to that - he admitted he was only thinking aboua a 20% chance of survival. He feels as long as Tinkerbell has milk (which she has a lot of now) - to continue like we have been - encouraging her to nurse. We did get a little bottle and first born formula in case we have to supplement we have it on hand and ready. He said we have been doing everything right (relief). Everyone was amazed at how tiny the little girl is - how does that weight sound? Has anyone had a pup that size that survived?? If not, then be ready for a first;) This little girl is a miracle baby.....keep sending up prayers for mom and baby thumbup: |
I did the conversion and 52 grams is 1.83424 ozs. That is really tiny. I do pray she makes it. Is she latching on by herself or do you still have to help her? |
I did the conversion and 52 grams is 1.83424 ozs. That is really tiny. WOW!!!! I thought my little 2.1 oz baby was small. She is now 12 days old and I'm supplementing every 2 1/2 hours. She still isn't growing. I will be praying and watching to see how your little one grows. |
Wow, under two ounces???? I can't even imagine:eek: I am sending hugs to you and many prayers that your miracle baby is just that, and grows up big and strong. I can't imagine not having to supplement a tiny one like that, but I really have no experiance with one so small. |
Just wanted to say good luck and hope your little miracle continues to do okay! :) |
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