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Obie 03-18-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2528079)
Glenda DID NOT sell any off HER puppies to a pet store. It was never made PERFECTLY clear, but she was doing friends a favor. This does not reflect on how great HER puppies are and what kind of breeder she is.

I know there has been a lot of discussion about Glenda, however, after talking with this woman and her strict breeding contracts, I do not believe she sold any of her Yorkies to a pet store. The only way to prove this is to find people who have purchased those Yorkies from the petstore and trace the pedigree. I would bet you will not trace them back to Glenda's kennel. She keeps a very close rein on her Yorkies. If she shipped for a friend, than that is another story and I would guess she had a few choice words of advisement for that friend.

phfgkl 03-18-2009 05:11 PM

What you don't seem to understand, is it doesn't matter if she sold her own pups to a petstore, for her to even be involved with that makes her just as bad!!! If I was a good reputable breeder, and a friend of mine bred and asked me to help them sell their pups to a petstore, I would say SORRY, you're on your own!

jencar98 03-18-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2528079)
This does not reflect on how great HER puppies are and what kind of breeder she is.

This does reflect upon what kind of breeder she is, one that provides a pet store with puppies.

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Originally Posted by Obie (Post 2528697)
I know there has been a lot of discussion about Glenda, however, after talking with this woman and her strict breeding contracts, I do not believe she sold any of her Yorkies to a pet store. The only way to prove this is to find people who have purchased those Yorkies from the petstore and trace the pedigree. I would bet you will not trace them back to Glenda's kennel. She keeps a very close rein on her Yorkies. If she shipped for a friend, than that is another story and I would guess she had a few choice words of advisement for that friend.

Actions speak louder than her words as to her kennel/breeding practices. It doesn't matter if they were her puppies - they were puppies she supplied to a pet store. If you want respect and trust, you should be very aware of who your friends/associates are and what they want you to do.

jrsygal37 03-18-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jasmanea (Post 2526943)
Well a fellow breeder sent this to me since I was checking into some of Glenda Beaver's pups. I was thinking of purchasing a male. Anyone know if this has an validity to it?

Thanks!

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Awhile back I saw this and contacted the site asking why. This is the response I received back (See Below)

"All of a sudden there's renewed activity concerning Glenda Beavers from Tahlequah, OK even though she's been around for quite a while. It's said, and some say proved, that she sells to pet stores. I'm told that she has sold to a local pet store here in Massachusetts, Laughlin Kennels so if that's true It confirms her activity. Laughlin has been featured on at least one Boston TV station as being a puppymill and I've been there and seen for myself that Laughlin is in fact a puppymill. I have a warning about them on my web site.

I also have a statement that I wouldn't do business with Glenda Beavers and Carolyn Buffington along with several other dubious so-called breeders.

About the only thing that can be done to reduce the demand for puppymill pups is to get the word out and let the public be informed. That's what I try to do but I won't "BLACKLIST" a breeder until I have documentation that asserts my statements. Opinions are a different matter!"

Now, with that said I will also say that I have personal documentation showing that she has in fact shipped pups to a petstore in Danbury. She says they were not her pups but she was doing a friend a favor, however according to documentation she did this MANY TIMES. Some of the pups as young as eight weeks old and at least two that had just had hernia operations. In my opinion it does not matter whether they were her pups or someone else's she still had her hands in something less then ethical. That to me tarnishes her as a reputable breeder.

Lastly, information was sent to me in which someone bought a pup from her and the pup arrived to the person very sick. This information was posted right here on the open internet via an organization that was paying for the pups surgery. They wrote to Glenda asking for her to do the right thing but it is my understanding that they never got a response from her.

Just because someone once had a good reputation does not mean that that cannot change. There was one other breeder on here that too that was once well respected but later turned into a very bad breeeder in which she was either shut down or at least fined.

Please research on your own and research well before doing business with ANYONE.

Elaine

MyFairLacy 03-18-2009 05:40 PM

I don't care if she found the puppies on the street. She still sent puppies to a petstore and this came straight from her. Like I said, I wouldn't have bought from her based on what I knew before the petstore stuff came out but that made it worse. I have really really high standards fir the next breeder I'd buy from and glenda does not meet those standards

jrsygal37 03-18-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 2528789)
I don't care if she found the puppies on the street. She still sent puppies to a petstore and this came straight from her. Like I said, I wouldn't have bought from her based on what I knew before the petstore stuff came out but that made it worse. I have really really high standards fir the next breeder I'd buy from and glenda does not meet those standards

:thumbup: Elaine

PrincessDiana 03-18-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2528727)
What you don't seem to understand, is it doesn't matter if she sold her own pups to a petstore, for her to even be involved with that makes her just as bad!!! If I was a good reputable breeder, and a friend of mine bred and asked me to help them sell their pups to a petstore, I would say SORRY, you're on your own!

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Agreed.

Misti1 03-20-2009 05:43 AM

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After looking and looking and begging and begging for help on this site, a fellow board member led me to Glenda Beavers. I started my relationship by corresponding with her and establishing many things about my puppy. There were times when she was busy and could not get back to me, but I stuck in there because something in my gut told me she was the right one and that this little girl was meant for me.

It was a 6 hour drive there and a 6 hour drive back. I was at her place personally, and I don't know heck about what a professional breeding place is supposed to be like, but it looked all in order to me, although I would be overwhelmed with that much work, plus the other things on the ranch.

I brought my little darling home, and as one of my neighbors said, I feel like I won the lottery. I don't think there is any better baby anywhere in the world.

I truly do understand the ethical issues you are discussing here regarding supplying the pet stores etc. However, I am not a private investigator and cannot prove Ms. Beaver's actions. I cannot take back my purchase or change the course of things 9 months later. I did my homework as best I could and arrived at my new daughter the best I could.

I can only say that she was more than good to me, my baby is very beautiful and very healthy. I must say that I WOULD recommend her to others, if that angers some of you, then so be it, but she has really good puppies.

I know a lady on here who was going to buy from her, and the puppy did get sick, therefore, Glenda did not sell it to her, but they are waiting on another when the time is right.

I found her to be a lovely lady, and I found her business sense to be correct in my case. I could not read this thread in good conscious and not speak up.

Maya's mother

jencar98 03-20-2009 06:05 AM

Misti, I'm glad you had a good experience with Glenda. I know you're very happy with your little girl, as you should be. There's no question many have bought healthy pups from her.

If you truly do understand the ethical issues here, you don't have to be a private investigator to prove what she has done - the proof has been published.

For anyone to recommend Glenda for puppies, IMO may as well recommend they buy from a pet store. How can anyone in good conscience continue to tell people "do not buy from a pet store" and then buy a puppy from a breeder that supplies a pet store with puppies?

Just because her "professional breeding place" appeared to be all in order and you got a beautiful girl from her, doesn't negate the facts of what she has done.

Why promote someone with very questionable ethics when there are so many other truly reputable breeders available?

makennasmommy 03-20-2009 06:07 AM

I have a question. Let me start by saying I dont know Glenda, dont care who she is, and got my yorkie from a "breeder" but my question is in regards to breeders selling puppies to a petstore.

I thought the problem that people are having with petstores is that they get their dogs from puppy mills a lot, instead of from reputable breeders.

So if a reputable breeder decided to sell through a pet store for more exposure (say a newer breeder, one that wasnt necessarily in it for a show quality puppy, etc) would that be bad? Meaning the puppy was well taken care of, well bred, loved and not let go too young before going to a pet store,and then adopted to a nice family (who was well screened by the said petstore of coarse)?

Please help me understand. I know for some common folk they may not know how to find a breeder, may immediately go to a petstore (none i can think of in my state that even sell dogs but Im just using as example).

dont hate me :) and dont whip me too hard for trying to understand.

Misti1 03-20-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2531604)
Misti, I'm glad you had a good experience with Glenda. I know you're very happy with your little girl, as you should be. There's no question many have bought healthy pups from her.

If you truly do understand the ethical issues here, you don't have to be a private investigator to prove what she has done - the proof has been published.

For anyone to recommend Glenda for puppies, IMO may as well recommend they buy from a pet store. How can anyone in good conscience continue to tell people "do not buy from a pet store" and then buy a puppy from a breeder that supplies a pet store with puppies?

Just because her "professional breeding place" appeared to be all in order and you got a beautiful girl from her, doesn't negate the facts of what she has done.

Why promote someone with very questionable ethics when there are so many other truly reputable breeders available?


jen

I do understand what you are saying and I do respect your opinion. Since there are SO MANY REPUTABLE breeders out there, I wish people would pay more attention on these boards when people are asking for help looking for one BECAUSE ONLY ONE person helped me, and that was the board member who lead me to GLenda.

Mybabyboymax 03-20-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by makennasmommy (Post 2531609)
So if a reputable breeder decided to sell through a pet store for more exposure (say a newer breeder, one that wasnt necessarily in it for a show quality puppy, etc) would that be bad? Meaning the puppy was well taken care of, well bred, loved and not let go too young before going to a pet store,and then adopted to a nice family (who was well screened by the said petstore of coarse)?

That is the thing...the owner of a petstore is not going to screen any buyer. all they want to know is if you are paying cash or credit. So this "reputable" breeder has no clue where their puppy will end up.

Misti1 03-20-2009 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mybabyboymax (Post 2531623)
That is the thing...the owner of a petstore is not going to screen any buyer. all they want to know is if you are paying cash or credit. So this "reputable" breeder has no clue where their puppy will end up.


I understand that very well

jencar98 03-20-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Misti1 (Post 2531613)
jen

I do understand what you are saying and I do respect your opinion. Since there are SO MANY REPUTABLE breeders out there, I wish people would pay more attention on these boards when people are asking for help looking for one BECAUSE ONLY ONE person helped me, and that was the board member who lead me to GLenda.


Thank you Misti. I do understand where you're coming from too. Before this information came to light, I was one of those that would have recommended her too. Hopefully as YT has grown, the information on good and bad breeders alike, will be more readily available to future puppy buyers.

phfgkl 03-20-2009 06:40 AM

One thing to remember about pet stores. NO GOOD REPUTABLE BREEDER WILL EVER SELL TO A PETSTORE, IF THEY'RE GOOD, WORD GETS AROUND, AND THEY'LL HAVE PEOPLE ON A WAITING LIST!


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