breeding a stud?

[Bizzymammabee]

Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008

He was calmer, less yappy, and friendlier towards other dogs

Ok I don't think that was from the being a stud. I think that was age, socialization and learning that did that.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008

I didn't say he was perfect just improved. And I dont skip health tests etc and there is still profit which goes toward his care of course.

I never said that you did skip anything, nor did I say he was perfect. Of course, we all think in our own eyes that our little ones are perfect.

[YORKIE_mom_2008]

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee

Ok I don't think that was from the being a stud. I think that was age, socialization and learning that did that.

Well everyone has their own opinion i guess

[YORKIE_mom_2008]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I never said that you did skip anything, nor did I say he was perfect. Of course, we all think in our own eyes that our little ones are perfect.

Sorry i just meant that even though i do not skip health tests i still profit from it. thats all

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008

Sorry i just meant that even though i do not skip health tests i still profit from it. thats all

Like I said, where there's a will, there's a way. I just know that in my experience, by the time the overhead costs for all that goes into even owning a stud add up, you're in far deeper financially then you can ever dig yourself out of. No worries.

[christinakesler]

Originally Posted by bamafan121s

if your guy's temperament improved, then consider yourself lucky. You are in the small minority on that one as it is generally not the case.
As far as making money, usually those who are in breeding only for the money will find a way to profit. Either by skipping on health tests, costs of evaluations, overcharging, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone, just encouraging others to consider all the possibilities. It's not all roses and sunshine and the perfect atrological alignment that you have described.

i feel like anyone that breeds is in it to make money i don't care what any of them say cause if they wasn't they wouldn't sell them for an arm and leg. I just wonder if everyone says i want them to have a good home and a family to love them forever. If so are you saying only the people that can shell out money makes a good home for a dog. So lets be honest with ourselves their all out to make money....

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by christinakesler

i feel like anyone that breeds is in it to make money i don't care what any of them say cause if they wasn't they wouldn't sell them for an arm and leg. I just wonder if everyone says i want them to have a good home and a family to love them forever. If so are you saying only the people that can shell out money makes a good home for a dog. So lets be honest with ourselves their all out to make money....

Hmmm, not all of them...many do, but not all. But it sounds like you've run across your fair share of those who do and there are certainly plenty out there just looking to make a living off of it.

[lreed]

Originally Posted by harleysrealmom

Hello yorkie community! I have a two year old yorkie, Harley. I am convinced he is the most handsome yorkie ever. He is blonde and blue/grey. He is AKA registered. I would really like to stud him out, but I don't know how to find a reliable and safe breeder. Does anyone have any suggestions?

I'm not going to get into the "ins and outs" and the "rights and wrongs" of breeding. The question is how do I go about getting the word out about breeding and here is my answer to that one. Call your groomer and any other groomer in the area and let them know your dog is available for stud service. You could also make up a flyer to post in their establishments. Veterinarian offices are also a good place to advertise (if they have a spot). Be sure to include a picture of him and so forth. But before you do any of this make sure you check the section here on "Breeding" to know what to do to make sure you and your little stud are kept safe and healthy. And that's all I'm gona say about that......

[troubletb]

You know I breed. I have two females and a boy. I stud him out every once in a while too. I wish I could say I make a living off of it, but there is no way... It helps with the vet bills, groomings, teeth cleaning, food, medications and so on. Do I make money?, not really, does it help? Yes it does.

[WV~Yorkies]

Originally Posted by christinakesler

i feel like anyone that breeds is in it to make money i don't care what any of them say cause if they wasn't they wouldn't sell them for an arm and leg. I just wonder if everyone says i want them to have a good home and a family to love them forever. If so are you saying only the people that can shell out money makes a good home for a dog. So lets be honest with ourselves their all out to make money....

If they don't have the money to buy one how can they expect to pay the vet bills every year to keep them healthy.

They sometimes sell for a arm and leg because that is what we have in them to get them here and be healthy. I know my last singleton I have ALOT of money in her already not counting my time. Will I make money.. NO Will she get a good home.. I hope so or she will have one here.

The people that run puppy mills make money. They also don't care anything about their dogs health or where they end up.

[YorkieAZ]

Originally Posted by christinakesler

i feel like anyone that breeds is in it to make money i don't care what any of them say cause if they wasn't they wouldn't sell them for an arm and leg. I just wonder if everyone says i want them to have a good home and a family to love them forever. If so are you saying only the people that can shell out money makes a good home for a dog. So lets be honest with ourselves their all out to make money....

It's getting touchy now!
People like this have no idea what breeders put into a litter, many sleepless nights, sometimes handfeeding around the clock for weeks, vet bills, food, possible cost of an emergency c-section, being "on call" to puppies for 12 weeks. It's much more work than they realize...and we should just give them away??

I may not sell then for an arm and a leg but I sure do have an arm and a leg invested in them.

Funny how people don't think a breeder should be paid for their time.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by YorkieAZ

It's getting touchy now!
People like this have no idea what breeders put into a litter, many sleepless nights, sometimes handfeeding around the clock for weeks, vet bills, food, possible cost of an emergency c-section, being "on call" to puppies for 12 weeks. It's much more work than they realize...and we should just give them away??

I may not sell then for an arm and a leg but I sure do have an arm and a leg invested in them.

Funny how people don't think a breeder should be paid for their time.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by YorkieAZ

It's getting touchy now!
People like this have no idea what breeders put into a litter, many sleepless nights, sometimes handfeeding around the clock for weeks, vet bills, food, possible cost of an emergency c-section, being "on call" to puppies for 12 weeks. It's much more work than they realize...and we should just give them away??

I may not sell then for an arm and a leg but I sure do have an arm and a leg invested in them.

Funny how people don't think a breeder should be paid for their time.

Totally agree. My most recent litter (3)was just like this. Mother took ill (Still don't know why, but $2,000 to save her and more $$$ to have her spayed this coming week. Much too precious to risk her life again. when pups were just under a week old. So, the round-the-clock bottle feeding of Goat's Milk and distilled water began (it's a wonder hubby and I are still married) and continued until pups were able to lap. Now those are minimal costs. Since, she and the sire are both Champions.....there are costs that were incurred to accomplish that. Special foods and nutrition for mother prior to the breeding and after whelping. Tests and vet fees for pups. Socialization and training for pups.

Since I only breed 1 or 2 litters a year (2 to 3 pups in a litter) for me, for my next Champion/Show Dog. After all is said and done, I can honestly say that I'm in the red after each litterb and my TAX man can attest to it.

As far as studding out a dog, there are still responsibilities that you must undertake as the stud owner. Are you prepared to assist the dam owner with the whelping. Are you willing to take back any puppies, if the dam owner is unable. Are you willing to help in finding proper homes for the pups. The list goes on.

Finding a reputable breeder that will not abuse your lines is very difficult. Most reputable breeders have their own studs and most of the time they don't stud them out to the public .

[Susan123]

Originally Posted by YorkieAZ

It's getting touchy now!
People like this have no idea what breeders put into a litter, many sleepless nights, sometimes handfeeding around the clock for weeks, vet bills, food, possible cost of an emergency c-section, being "on call" to puppies for 12 weeks. It's much more work than they realize...and we should just give them away??

I may not sell then for an arm and a leg but I sure do have an arm and a leg invested in them.

Funny how people don't think a breeder should be paid for their time.

[amandawash]

Originally Posted by YorkieAZ

It's getting touchy now!
People like this have no idea what breeders put into a litter, many sleepless nights, sometimes handfeeding around the clock for weeks, vet bills, food, possible cost of an emergency c-section, being "on call" to puppies for 12 weeks. It's much more work than they realize...and we should just give them away??

I may not sell then for an arm and a leg but I sure do have an arm and a leg invested in them.

Funny how people don't think a breeder should be paid for their time.

People think the same thing about vets!!

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Totally agree. My most recent litter (3)was just like this. Mother took ill (Still don't know why, but $2,000 to save her and more $$$ to have her spayed this coming week. Much too precious to risk her life again. when pups were just under a week old. So, the round-the-clock bottle feeding of Goat's Milk and distilled water began (it's a wonder hubby and I are still married) and continued until pups were able to lap. Now those are minimal costs. Since, she and the sire are both Champions.....there are costs that were incurred to accomplish that. Special foods and nutrition for mother prior to the breeding and after whelping. Tests and vet fees for pups. Socialization and training for pups.

Since I only breed 1 or 2 litters a year (2 to 3 pups in a litter) for me, for my next Champion/Show Dog. After all is said and done, I can honestly say that I'm in the red after each litterb and my TAX man can attest to it.

As far as studding out a dog, there are still responsibilities that you must undertake as the stud owner. Are you prepared to assist the dam owner with the whelping. Are you willing to take back any puppies, if the dam owner is unable. Are you willing to help in finding proper homes for the pups. The list goes on.

Finding a reputable breeder that will not abuse your lines is very difficult. Most reputable breeders have their own studs and most of the time they don't stud them out to the public .

That was a really, really good post.