Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 2391511)

If you go by the pedigrees - Mary Carter has 4 of Maxine's dogs (2 males and 2 females)
Buckshot, Oscar, Viza and Lottie Da

Viza's single puppy went to place in PA which I believe is a puppymill.

Lottie Da is either 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 pounds (she states both sizes) and has recently had a litter of 4 puppies.
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 2391511)

If you go by the pedigrees - Mary Carter has 4 of Maxine's dogs (2 males and 2 females)
Buckshot, Oscar, Viza and Lottie Da

Viza's single puppy went to place in PA which I believe is a puppymill.

Lottie Da is either 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 pounds (she states both sizes) and has recently had a litter of 4 puppies.
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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391399)

Sorry but I had talked her into letting the rescue take them in, I think that was way better then letting them go by an ad in the paper or by letting them go to homes with people you really dont know, anyone can say anything, just because they seem ok, dont mean they are telling the truth. and I wanted these Yorkies to have the life they deserved.Many breeders sell their older breeding dogs. How could they keep them all? I would never give one of mine up , but many do. and I know that rescues screen people and they fit people with these Yorkies sometimes better then anyone else.

Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2391623)

yes!
this is a very Ugly situation..
and we are all appaulled by it ...
but what can be done to resolve it ?
that is the question ...

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2391609)

She is IRRESPONSIBLE! She dumped these dogs onto a rescue because she didn't want to pay to have them spayed which any RESPONSIBLE breeder would have done. When she had them vetted 2 died because they had never had a rabies shot before according to your previous posts. You are acting like Maxine has done nothing wrong but in fact she is the root of this entire thread! She lied to you and NCYR about closing her breeding program, kept a few dogs and then she sold not 1 but 2 --2 1/2 to 3 lbs females to a breeder who is now mixing breeds for profit. Now one of her offspring has been sold one to a puppy mill or broker both are pretty much the same! How is any of this show she is even the slightest bit responsible? I don't understand why you are defending her actions?

LIke I said before I am the one who asked her to turn them over to a rescue,She was going to sell these dogs, and Then she decided to let them go to homes for free, only if they paid to have the dogs nutured with the money instead of her taking the money for the dogs..I thought it was better for these dogs to go into rescue so that they would have a better chance at being placed in good homes.
I am not defending anyone. and I have never ever said That I agree with what she does.Once again I have asked her many times to NOT let these dogs go with breeding rights.To raise her prices.These are not my dogs SO I HAVE NO SAY OVER THEM. All I have done is try to help the Yorkies involved in rehoming them. So maybe you should point fingers else where. But I be damn if I get on here and Bash a Breeder when I dont have all or any facts. yeah I can guess or say what I feel about it, but why do that?
And what do you mean the ones who only made it out? I got my Yorkie from there and there are many happy people who got Yorkies from this Breeder
The only ones that made it out were the ones turned over to the rescue, were spayed and neutered at the rescues expense and then rehomed. She didn't take the time to properly rehome her dogs, vet them or properly care for them. Reese1 talked about her Camden and what horrible condition she was in.:( I don't feel sorry for her NOT ONE BIT! She is no better than the one mixing and selling mixed breed dogs that this thread was started about. NOW one of her dogs is a female breeder in a MILL! This is just SICK and totally disgusting. Actually she is the cause of this entire thread. Total irresponsible breeding from all angles. I don't care how many show dogs she has produced, awards she has received it all means nothing if you are not responsible for your actions with ALL OF YOUR DOGS!

If North Carolina Yorkie Rescue heard about this they could shake their heads in disgust as well. When all is said and done, that little girl in the mill will either be dead or in a rescue. Maybe she will end up with me and have a good and loving home. :(

She is part of the reason that there is a need for rescues in this country and you are defending her as an innocent piece to this puzzle. She is the reason for this puzzle. How could she have allowed a 2 1/2 lb female be sold to breed to begin with~and she did when she allowed her to leave unaltered. You cannot say she didn't know, she should have had her spayed prior to letting her go. How is that betterment of the Yorkie breed?

There is no excuse for her irresponsible actions. Who knows what happened to the other females that she let go unaltered and not to a rescue. She lives right over the boarder of PA the Amish Puppymill capital of America. I brought my little rescue from OH home to IL. I've spoken to the rescue that deals with the amish mills it is not pretty. It's a horrible life these dogs live. It's so sad.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391686)

I got a call from this Breeder. She is having her lawyer go over this thread.
So be very careful when pointing fingers, unless you know the facts to be true.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391678)

Do you think that she is the only Breeder that rehome any of her adults? I dont think so. Go look in the ads on here. there are many being rehomed.
When I get a dog it is here to stay Forever. But not everyones like that. Do I agree whith it No. But theres nothing I can do about it.

Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2391695)

thats GREAT maybe he can get the yorkies back from that mixed breeder :)
i am so glad to hear that a laywer will get involved:)

Those poor BBYKINS need someones help !:animal-pa

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391678)

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2391706)

I would surely like to know who you are and what your vested interest in this woman's business is.
No..she is not the only one who does it...BUT she is the one being discussed in this thread!
Sort of like in kindergarten....Johnny gets caught stealing Susie's candy and his defense is that Joey did it too!

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391713)

I told you before I asked her about these dogs, and she said theres nothing she can do about it, She did not know they was being breed for mixed dogs. and she did give her breeding rights. Im not defending her or taking sides. but I do think its sad for some of you to bash a breeder when you have never even met her.

Dont you think Im also sad by all of this. I think its very sad and feel very sad for that mother dog and that pup.

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT (Post 2391721)

There is a difference between rehoming and turning over to rescue claiming she was getting out of breeding, it was you that posted that info. thats how everyone knew that this happened :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2391694)

I hope she has VERY deep pockets! She would need to prove losses and that is not an easy thing to do.
Sounds more like someone here is trying to intimidate people so they will not tell the truth.
Sad sad sad

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT (Post 2391726)

I didn't see any posts where someone was bashing her :confused:
Did I miss some posts?

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391713)

I told you before I asked her about these dogs, and she said theres nothing she can do about it, She did not know they was being breed for mixed dogs. and she did give her breeding rights. Im not defending her or taking sides. but I do think its sad for some of you to bash a breeder when you have never even met her.

Dont you think Im also sad by all of this. I think its very sad and feel very sad for that mother dog and that pup.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391733)

Are you talking about me? cause Im not trying to do no such thing. She talked to me and told me she was talking to her lawyer. If any of you know the thruth then post it. But thats just it none of you do. theres only one person on here that said she got a yorkie from her besides me.

If you have dealt with this breeder then yes do tell . but you havent have you?

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391723)

and why is she even being discussed in this thread? this thread was posted and was not even about her. Not until people went checking this and that and brought her name to this thread.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391678)

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2391759)

You are totally missing the point. I understand that breeder rehome, but what she did was dumping which is irresponsible and for the life of me I cannot understand why you cannot see this and continue to defend her. She told you that she was giving up breeding, you helped her turn over her dogs to a rescue and now she is breeding again. She is not an honest woman and she is taking you for a ride. BTW~when all of this was going on in the first place way back in August 08 you gave me her phone number and I did speak to her. She also told me that she was closing her breeding program. But her story to me was different than what you were saying. I am not making up lies or untruths about her, what I am stating is what either you posted previously or what I was told directly by her in our phone conversation.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...lt-yorkie.html

You stated right in this thread that NCYR had to have all of the dogs shaved down so what does that tell you? You stated that their were 7 and that 2 died after receiving Rabies shots at the vet. This was due to 7 dogs never being given a rabies prior. How do you breed and not give a basic shot that is required by law? (at least in my state it is)

This is once again turning into a total circus!

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391769)

It is turning into a circus, and I think most of it was with you in the last thread too. so why are you doing this?

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 2391757)

Perhaps it would be more appetizing to you if we simply started another thread with her name on it? I mean...if what you said is true and she does not vet her yorkies, perhaps people need to be made aware? If she is not providing even rabies shots (which by the way, IS a legal requirement), what else is not being done?

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391769)

It is turning into a circus, and I think most of it was with you in the last thread too. so why are you doing this?
She did say that one of her dogs died at the vets when she was getting their shots, had a bad reaction to it.The dogs was shaved down after going to the rescue. why maybe you should be asking them this question? and why are you even bringing up those dogs once again. have have all found good homes I have heard so why keep digging it all up again?

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 2391769)

It is turning into a circus, and I think most of it was with you in the last thread too. so why are you doing this?
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It occurs to me that you both were...as was I. So...will the real clown please stand up! :p

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 2391779)

I posted the link to the thread you are referring to maybe you should reread to refresh your memory. :)