sorry...
not to mention how hard the top breeders have worked years of their lives to have healthy top quality yorkies ..without all of those health issues she mentions on the site...:animal-pa

Anne, I'm not sure I understand what's going on here. Do you know this Maxine? Because if you look at the other pedigrees this mixbreeder has several of Maxine's dogs!

Did anyone hear from the other breeders? (Durrer & Murphy) I would think that they would want their names taken off that site and to get Viza and her pup.

Yes, it doesn't look like this gal bred Viza to a mixbreed - yet! I wonder why she's selling Viza? Not a big enough producer with a single pup? :mad:

This just makes me so upset. I almost called her last night. I felt like asking her if she mixes her horses with burros? :mad: She sounds like she's just mixing a cocktail!!!

I did email Betty Anne Durrer ...to let her know with a link to the site...
but i did not hear anything ..though the funny thing was when i went to the site later... it said that Visa was sold and now it does not say that any longer ...I tried to search that Maxine but i could not find her as a breeder in the USA or Canada...

funny if u look up Hollingberry ..it says on her site that they purchased the pup...

u will find a 3 month old male yorkie for sale :(

here is the link to that one?

Beautiful Full-bred Little Yorkie Boy for sale in Hollingberry's store.

Maxine Pitzer is from Ohio but I think she no longer breeds, just type her name in the search box.

Mix breeder
 

There was a thread about her earlier this summer. After her Mom died she was wanting to place her dogs.

Thanks for all your input! :thumbup:
Connie & Kids

yes i found those threads about maxine seems she either gave the yorkies for free and the purchaser would have to pay for the spay/neuter..the thread was confusing as then the rescue was picking them up but not the pups ..those threads were in august 2008.seems possible that is when the she may have aquired those two yorkies Visa and Oscar ....
Such a shame the entire situation...

Whoops, I apologize, you're right. For some reason I read over it really quickly and was thinking of the dam owner.

I am the same way, I have two verbal contracts with other breeders and I uphold the same standard for them as I do for a written one. If you betray someone's trust, you WILL get found out, it's just a matter of time...

LOL!!! I think at one time AKC was thinking about having both owners of the stud sign the litter papers. I dont know what became of that. Probably just too complicated.

In Canada I know a breeder of CKC yorkies and she breeds biewers... they are NOT allowed to be on the same web site... so her husband has the biewers and she has the yorkies.. that came from CKC in Canada..That person would not be allowed to promote these mixed breeds from yorkie champion pedigee..Just for you all to know...

I am also shocked at this so called breeders website... anne

Here are the owners! And guess where they live? OHIO! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Results

and i checked out Maxine and where that Viza is 66 miles distance between them...:confused:
i think she may have tricked a distraught women to get the dogs ...
the pedgirees which i think may be photo copies only state Maxine as Breeder ???

Maxine owns this ch. yorkie.. and yes she sold the yorkies to this breeder but was not expecting her to breed this girl on her first heat, nor did she know she breeds other dogs.. maxine is not happy about this breeder at all.. and she is the full owner of this champion male...just for your information..
I hate to see a defencless breeder attacked and the other breeders notified.. I know this happens to good people at times.. we all try to keep our dogs going to the best people and all of our intentions can at times go wrong.. but what I see is people checking out the owner maxine like she should not have given breeding rights to some one she obviously did not expect this exposure of on her babies being sold.. or the male for that matter...some people going out of there way that do not know betty anne to be emailing her and posting this.. if it does not immediately affect you all.. then why all the drama about it all... I think she is a terrible person for doing what she has done.. but to be looking up Maxine and talking like she does not even own this ch.. yorkie is beyond me.. many many dollars went in to making this boy a champion by her best friend.. and yes, If I had 3 grand to spare.. I would try to buy viza myself to just find a good home for her.. but I do not have that kind of money.. but maybe you all should get together and purchase this viza and then you all can control what happens to her from now on.. something ya all might want to think about...is all I am thinking here... yes she got dupped.. but what is she to do ... she does not have internet nor a website.. maybe ya all should call her yourself and talk to her as action taken to own would be as good as anything done so far..
anne

I feel compelled to weigh in because we got Camden from Maxine.
I'm sure some of you are aware of my story of bringing Camden into our family.
We "rescued" her last April when she was almost 2 1/2. She was in HORRIBLE shape when we brought her home. She had worms, ear & eye infections, she was matted all over her body and had to be practically shaved down. She smelled horrible and was scared of everything.
She is so precious and special to us and we love her dearly!
This doesn't shock or surprise me at all. I don't know how much she knew or didn't know about this situation, but given her lack of care and concern for Camden and some of her other dogs, nothing would surprise me.

Wow - I can't believe that you feel that way Anne.

First of all, this lady (Maxine) was a breeder. She did/does know what she's doing. She sold 2 females and 2 males unaltered to a person who had every intention of breeding! Are you saying that Maxine mentored this woman to breed Yorkies? And that this lady betrayed Maxine? Even IF she thought she was going to breed Yorkies - she really should have taken better care in what she was doing! Someone (Murphy/Durrer) trusted her with their name (line). All the more reason to check and recheck this lady from OH out.


So the first issue is that Maxine sold these dogs for breeding - then to really add insult to injury - she sold them to someone who does NOT know anything about breeding Yorkies and who is obviously breeding MIXED breeds for profit! Someone who is trying to change the breed. :rolleyes:


I don't know what you're upset about. I'm appalled that Murphy/Durrer haven't taken the bitch and the puppy back from that lady yet. As far as Maxine goes...
I think she knew darn good and well what she was doing. How could you not? She's responsible for them. She sold her 4 dogs... she should have made sure it wasn't going to happen!


This whole thing is so sad. And even sadder if something isn't done about it - soon!

i am also saddened by that situation ...i was thinking what we could do about it Maybe post it in the for sale section to give others the chance to get those yorkies...there are alot of members here with BIG HEARTS :)

I read the pedigree's on this person's website more thoroughly and one of her males is sired by my Camden's father and my Camden's mother is the grandmother to one of her females. Camden's Mother was turned over to a rescue group.
I shared my experience regarding Camden. She was NOT being taken care of and the male I saw when I was there didn't look good either.
The pictures I saw of Camden's mom and a few others were not in good shape either.
My personal opinion and experience with her is she doesn't provide proper medical or grooming care for her dogs and they aren't loved or socialized either. I seriously doubt she was duped and it's really sad. I really had hoped she had retired from breeding.
I think breeders should breed because they love the breed and want to breed to better and I don't think that is the case here and that's when I think it's time for someone to get out of it!

i Agree..Breeding should be for the better of the breed ..i see many yorkie pups sick due to poor breeding or just neglect ...Top breeders are very selective to correct problems with the breed...but these were pedigree yorkies to breed mixed breed ?
and a 3 31/2 pound under a year with a baby:( that little Viza ..abuse to me..i am not a breeder...but it is sad to me

It's really sad. I don't understand not treating animals properly.
It just breaks my heart!

WOW Im just now seeing this. I have knowing Maxine for almost 5 years now.
she lives pretty close to me, right on the other side of town. I havent checked out those web sites yet, but I will. As Reese said she did get Camden from Maxine. and I got my male Ch Mickey from Maxine 4 1/2 years ago.
The male you are talking about is Maxines Ch stud. I have talked about him on here not long ago and talked about getting a female from her. this males pup. But I changed my mind. just wasnt the right time for us.
Yes Maxine does sell her pups unaltered. and im very saddened by that. there are members on here that also have pups from her and from this male being the dad.
Maxine is a very nice lady. with a beautiful home. her dogs are feed well. but I dont believe she keeps them in her house. all her dogs are Ch and or great quality Yorkies. you wont ever see one of her pups thats not the standard.
I dont know her reasons for not unaltered her pups before rehoming them. and she does sell her pups cheaper then any AKC Yorkie breeder that ive meet, and I have talked to her about her prices and about screening people for these pups and about alterering them before they leave her home. She does not have internet and even though she knows the breeed well she would do better by knowing whats going on in the breeders world today.
I did help rehome many of her dogs, she was getting out of breeding and I posted on here and a rescue did pick those Yorkies up and vet cared them and rehomed them. I do know alot of them was shaved down, but other then that they were in good health. as of late I have heard she did not retire from breeding and is still breeding the ones she kept.just down graded. She is friends with the pre owners of this male. I do not think she knows that anyone has mixed her Yorkies or breed them to mixes. Im sure she wont be to happy about that. I plan to call her today and ask her to please only sell them after they have been fixed. I know she could do alot better by having them fixed and raising her prices to help pay to have that done. so im going to talk to her about it again. But al her Yorkies are of great pedigree.and all are standard yorkies.

If there was only a verbal agreement(like mine is) between Kathy/Bettyanne and the original purchaser of Imagine Me, there may be no recourse in getting him back And now that she sold him to someone else(Maxine?) they will probably never get him back. But we dont know the whole situation and its basically none of our business, as sad as it is.

I just talked to Maxine and there will be no more pups leaving her home with breeding rights. just wanted to let you all know. :thumbup:

Maxine said she did not know that these Yorkies she sold this breeder was being used to mix breeds. she is also very sad about this.

:eek: what the heck!! :thumbdown

isn't that the truth.. :eek:

Well I will leave all the negative discussions to those that feel the need to beat some one up that is not on the forum to defend herself..
I do not know this lady so very personally, nor do I plan on investigating her.. I would think that would be up to durrer/murphy as you all say...I met the woman once.. talked to her many times on the phone.. saw her house as clean as can be.. and the dogs very well taken care of.. she did say she sold a person dogs that she was not happy with.. and I did not feel like it was up to me to get into her affairs..sorry but I would not and that is it...I do not have to defend myself to anyone on this forum.."I said I met her.. I said what she said to me.. do I approve.. no..". but I have a life and dogs to care for and a family and do not sit on the computer to worry about the how, what or why's people live their life, nor how they breed.. or how happy they are.. I do know that I have known many breeders in my day.. and I know they are here also.. that have sold to a breeder and been betrayed.. I worked with criminals all my life.. I am retired now.. enough said... anne

Thank you girlie.. I guess my saying something postive about maxine.. fell on deaf ears.. and then I am questioned about how I feel or think.. I think judgement can be left to others.. it is obvious that I need not say.. yet I met the woman... know her story.. and am not about to share it with others.. do what I did and drive there and visit with her..Amazing how in just over a year I have been on this forum to have me make a remark and questioned with such hostility..and yet so many on here that I know have have been treated badly.. then over night.. they are just the best kind of person and the best breeder.. :confused:
anne

I am sure many appreciate your taking the time.. to inform them on a breeders intention... anne

I agree she's nice to talk with and her home is clean as a pin! I was saddened and shocked that it didn't translate over to her dogs.
I'm not sure if she was referring to me when she talked about someone buying from her and not being happy.
In case it is, I want to clarify that we LOVE Camden, she is our family and she has made such a difference in our lives and we have made all the difference in the world in her life! We feel blessed to have rescued this little girl from the conditions she was living in and suffering from.
As far as negative comments about her, I feel very passionate about the way Camden had suffered and I hope that people will do their research before buying their puppies and I hope they will go to reputable breeders who are concerned about their dogs and give them proper care and love!

Goodness I went to the webpage and I am shocked too

Thank goodness! I just wish there weren't anymore puppies leaving her home at all!
I just can't stress enough for people to do their research before buying puppies!!