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YoRkiE Te aMo 12-21-2008 04:53 PM

sorry...
not to mention how hard the top breeders have worked years of their lives to have healthy top quality yorkies ..without all of those health issues she mentions on the site...:animal-pa

cj125 12-21-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 2383679)
omg I have met this breeder and she is really upset that she uses her dogs pedigree to just make money... I talked in lengths to her.. and I feel so bad for maxine seeing this.. it breaks my heart...those where Maxine's words to me.. of course before I knew who this person was.. but she said she has internet and I have heard she sells her puppies using the pedigree to make more dollars....
It upset me then... but even more now since I have seen this post.. disgusting really.... anne


Anne, I'm not sure I understand what's going on here. Do you know this Maxine? Because if you look at the other pedigrees this mixbreeder has several of Maxine's dogs!

Did anyone hear from the other breeders? (Durrer & Murphy) I would think that they would want their names taken off that site and to get Viza and her pup.

Yes, it doesn't look like this gal bred Viza to a mixbreed - yet! I wonder why she's selling Viza? Not a big enough producer with a single pup? :mad:

This just makes me so upset. I almost called her last night. I felt like asking her if she mixes her horses with burros? :mad: She sounds like she's just mixing a cocktail!!!

YoRkiE Te aMo 12-21-2008 06:28 PM

I did email Betty Anne Durrer ...to let her know with a link to the site...
but i did not hear anything ..though the funny thing was when i went to the site later... it said that Visa was sold and now it does not say that any longer ...I tried to search that Maxine but i could not find her as a breeder in the USA or Canada...

YoRkiE Te aMo 12-21-2008 06:59 PM

funny if u look up Hollingberry ..it says on her site that they purchased the pup...

u will find a 3 month old male yorkie for sale :(

here is the link to that one?

Beautiful Full-bred Little Yorkie Boy for sale in Hollingberry's store.

Miley's mom 12-21-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2384482)
I did email Betty Anne Durrer ...to let her know with a link to the site...
but i did not hear anything ..though the funny thing was when i went to the site later... it said that Visa was sold and now it does not say that any longer ...I tried to search that Maxine but i could not find her as a breeder in the USA or Canada...

Maxine Pitzer is from Ohio but I think she no longer breeds, just type her name in the search box.

cj125 12-21-2008 07:38 PM

Mix breeder
 
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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2384482)
I did email Betty Anne Durrer ...to let her know with a link to the site...
but i did not hear anything ..though the funny thing was when i went to the site later... it said that Visa was sold and now it does not say that any longer ...I tried to search that Maxine but i could not find her as a breeder in the USA or Canada...

There was a thread about her earlier this summer. After her Mom died she was wanting to place her dogs.

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2384519)
funny if u look up Hollingberry ..it says on her site that they purchased the pup...
I saw that. I believe that they're brokers. I wish the original breeders would step up and get that little Viza back and her pup. Viza will just be used to breed. This mixbreeder probably didn't want her anymore because she only had one pup! :mad:


u will find a 3 month old male yorkie for sale :(
here is the link to that one?
Beautiful Full-bred Little Yorkie Boy for sale in Hollingberry's store.

Thanks for all your input! :thumbup:
Connie & Kids

YoRkiE Te aMo 12-21-2008 08:20 PM

yes i found those threads about maxine seems she either gave the yorkies for free and the purchaser would have to pay for the spay/neuter..the thread was confusing as then the rescue was picking them up but not the pups ..those threads were in august 2008.seems possible that is when the she may have aquired those two yorkies Visa and Oscar ....
Such a shame the entire situation...

EmrldShdwQueen 12-21-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2384132)
Actually the co-owner of the stud does not have to sign the litter registration papers or certificate of stud service. So they might not have known about this at all. I have a verbal only agreement with Kathy that I will not stud out these beautiful boys and will not sell any puppies produced on full AKC registration. I will never betray Kathy's trust on this. Thats just not me. To me a contract is a contract, verbal or written.

Whoops, I apologize, you're right. For some reason I read over it really quickly and was thinking of the dam owner.

I am the same way, I have two verbal contracts with other breeders and I uphold the same standard for them as I do for a written one. If you betray someone's trust, you WILL get found out, it's just a matter of time...

yorkiekist 12-22-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by EmrldShdwQueen (Post 2384731)
Whoops, I apologize, you're right. For some reason I read over it really quickly and was thinking of the dam owner.

I am the same way, I have two verbal contracts with other breeders and I uphold the same standard for them as I do for a written one. If you betray someone's trust, you WILL get found out, it's just a matter of time...

LOL!!! I think at one time AKC was thinking about having both owners of the stud sign the litter papers. I dont know what became of that. Probably just too complicated.

mypreciouspups 12-22-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2381957)
I understand this can happen, but it just kills me that they are being used as a selling point to push mix breeds. I wonder if there is anything that the original breeders can do? I know Joey's breeder put it in the contract that she can pretty much get him at anytime if I'm doing something that she doesn't like. I also have to get her approval to sell.


In Canada I know a breeder of CKC yorkies and she breeds biewers... they are NOT allowed to be on the same web site... so her husband has the biewers and she has the yorkies.. that came from CKC in Canada..That person would not be allowed to promote these mixed breeds from yorkie champion pedigee..Just for you all to know...

I am also shocked at this so called breeders website... anne

cj125 12-22-2008 05:07 PM

Here are the owners! And guess where they live? OHIO! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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YoRkiE Te aMo 12-22-2008 05:44 PM

and i checked out Maxine and where that Viza is 66 miles distance between them...:confused:
i think she may have tricked a distraught women to get the dogs ...
the pedgirees which i think may be photo copies only state Maxine as Breeder ???

mypreciouspups 12-22-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YoRkiE Te aMo (Post 2385811)
and i checked out Maxine and where that Viza is 66 miles distance between them...:confused:
i think she may have tricked a distraught women to get the dogs ...
the pedgirees which i think may be photo copies only state Maxine as Breeder ???


Maxine owns this ch. yorkie.. and yes she sold the yorkies to this breeder but was not expecting her to breed this girl on her first heat, nor did she know she breeds other dogs.. maxine is not happy about this breeder at all.. and she is the full owner of this champion male...just for your information..
I hate to see a defencless breeder attacked and the other breeders notified.. I know this happens to good people at times.. we all try to keep our dogs going to the best people and all of our intentions can at times go wrong.. but what I see is people checking out the owner maxine like she should not have given breeding rights to some one she obviously did not expect this exposure of on her babies being sold.. or the male for that matter...some people going out of there way that do not know betty anne to be emailing her and posting this.. if it does not immediately affect you all.. then why all the drama about it all... I think she is a terrible person for doing what she has done.. but to be looking up Maxine and talking like she does not even own this ch.. yorkie is beyond me.. many many dollars went in to making this boy a champion by her best friend.. and yes, If I had 3 grand to spare.. I would try to buy viza myself to just find a good home for her.. but I do not have that kind of money.. but maybe you all should get together and purchase this viza and then you all can control what happens to her from now on.. something ya all might want to think about...is all I am thinking here... yes she got dupped.. but what is she to do ... she does not have internet nor a website.. maybe ya all should call her yourself and talk to her as action taken to own would be as good as anything done so far..
anne

Reese1 12-26-2008 07:55 PM

I feel compelled to weigh in because we got Camden from Maxine.
I'm sure some of you are aware of my story of bringing Camden into our family.
We "rescued" her last April when she was almost 2 1/2. She was in HORRIBLE shape when we brought her home. She had worms, ear & eye infections, she was matted all over her body and had to be practically shaved down. She smelled horrible and was scared of everything.
She is so precious and special to us and we love her dearly!
This doesn't shock or surprise me at all. I don't know how much she knew or didn't know about this situation, but given her lack of care and concern for Camden and some of her other dogs, nothing would surprise me.

cj125 12-27-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 2386089)
Maxine owns this ch. yorkie.. and yes she sold the yorkies to this breeder but was not expecting her to breed this girl on her first heat, nor did she know she breeds other dogs.. maxine is not happy about this breeder at all.. and she is the full owner of this champion male...just for your information..
I hate to see a defencless breeder attacked and the other breeders notified.. I know this happens to good people at times.. we all try to keep our dogs going to the best people and all of our intentions can at times go wrong.. but what I see is people checking out the owner maxine like she should not have given breeding rights to some one she obviously did not expect this exposure of on her babies being sold.. or the male for that matter...some people going out of there way that do not know betty anne to be emailing her and posting this.. if it does not immediately affect you all.. then why all the drama about it all... I think she is a terrible person for doing what she has done.. but to be looking up Maxine and talking like she does not even own this ch.. yorkie is beyond me.. many many dollars went in to making this boy a champion by her best friend.. and yes, If I had 3 grand to spare.. I would try to buy viza myself to just find a good home for her.. but I do not have that kind of money.. but maybe you all should get together and purchase this viza and then you all can control what happens to her from now on.. something ya all might want to think about...is all I am thinking here... yes she got dupped.. but what is she to do ... she does not have internet nor a website.. maybe ya all should call her yourself and talk to her as action taken to own would be as good as anything done so far..
anne



Wow - I can't believe that you feel that way Anne.

First of all, this lady (Maxine) was a breeder. She did/does know what she's doing. She sold 2 females and 2 males unaltered to a person who had every intention of breeding! Are you saying that Maxine mentored this woman to breed Yorkies? And that this lady betrayed Maxine? Even IF she thought she was going to breed Yorkies - she really should have taken better care in what she was doing! Someone (Murphy/Durrer) trusted her with their name (line). All the more reason to check and recheck this lady from OH out.


So the first issue is that Maxine sold these dogs for breeding - then to really add insult to injury - she sold them to someone who does NOT know anything about breeding Yorkies and who is obviously breeding MIXED breeds for profit! Someone who is trying to change the breed. :rolleyes:


I don't know what you're upset about. I'm appalled that Murphy/Durrer haven't taken the bitch and the puppy back from that lady yet. As far as Maxine goes...
I think she knew darn good and well what she was doing. How could you not? She's responsible for them. She sold her 4 dogs... she should have made sure it wasn't going to happen!


This whole thing is so sad. And even sadder if something isn't done about it - soon!


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