Looking for a Male Shorkie

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I am not sure why I thought I could educate anyone here. I know I can't from past experience except for the odd person that 'gets it'.
Look luck in your search for your mutt OP and good luck for the mutt breeders churning out their wares to fill a pet market.

LOL...that made me giggle...not sure why. Such a true statement and observation though.
...same ole story, same ole justification, and accusations and defenses of the practice...
<sigh>

[hugz4all4]

Originally Posted by jencar98

LOL...I don't think you will be educating Lorraine on this subject.

From my experience there are many more mix breeds in shelters than purebreds. Although you do see purebreds in the shelters, they are not generally the quality of pets that come from a reputable exhibitor/breeder.....I've yet to find one of those in a shelter. So, once again the problem is over-breeding of any dog type (including those mixes you and others defend), by those that are not doing so for the right reason, which includes the majority here. Most that breed the mixes are not doing so to create a new AKC recognized breed, but are simply trying to cash in on a trend.

I agree with you for the most part
I know that most of the people that breed (mixes AND purebred) do it for the MONEY.
However what is so wrong with someone wanting a mixed breed dog????
Do I think its crazy that someone is willing to pay the price for a mixed breed dog that purebred breeders charge absoultey, I would never pay that much, however I would never pay thousands of dollars for a purebred but that it just me. I understand that the world is over ran by unwanted dogs and that over breeding contributes to that, HOWEVER its not all the fault of people who breed mix breeds, its the fault of anyone who owns a male and female that arent fixed and are calling them selves responsible breeders. That is the point that I was trying to make.
Maybe I was wrong when I wrote the statement that there are responsible breeders on this board, I havent been here long but Ive read some post about breeding/puppies and for the most part they seem responsible to me. but what do I know Im getting a mixed breed dog, because I WANT one ( not that its anyone business, Im not paying anything for my new pup)
Im finished on this subject, its going nowhere, because I support those who enjoy mixed breed dogs Im always going to be wrong. Im not sure who posted awhile back on the general forum that anyone who owns a yorkie mix was welcome, well its threads like this one that scare those who own mixes away.
have a great day everyone!!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by hugz4all4

its not all the fault of people who breed mix breeds, its the fault of anyone who owns a male and female that arent fixed and are calling them selves responsible breeders

Very true...in addition to those who support them.

I don't think that anyone is trying to insult the mutts and owners of the world or claim that they are "lesser" in any way...just the shady breeding practices that are producing them in the first place. (And yes, on that level the same could be said about alot of purebreds as well.)

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by jencar98

LOL...I don't think you will be educating Lorraine on this subject.

From my experience there are many more mix breeds in shelters than purebreds. Although you do see purebreds in the shelters, they are not generally the quality of pets that come from a reputable exhibitor/breeder.....I've yet to find one of those in a shelter. So, once again the problem is over-breeding of any dog type (including those mixes you and others defend), by those that are not doing so for the right reason, which includes the majority here. Most that breed the mixes are not doing so to create a new AKC recognized breed, but are simply trying to cash in on a trend.

You have to realize, there are a lot of purebred dogs in the pound, the only reason you don't see them, is as Lorraine even said, they hurry and get them out of there...

[hugz4all4]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Very true...in addition to those who support them.

I don't think that anyone is trying to insult the mutts and owners of the world or claim that they are "lesser" in any way...just the shady breeding practices that are producing them in the first place. (And yes, on that level the same could be said about alot of purebreds as well.)

I agree with you, however I will never understand why those who want a mixed breed dog gets so much grief when in reality most all people who sell dogs, purebreds included do it for the money but because the one we want is a "mutt" were wrong and supporting puppymills etc....

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

You have to realize, there are a lot of purebred dogs in the pound

I guess that must be a regional problem, because it certainly isn't the case in this area, for whatever reason....unless you count the pits, dobies and rotties that are confescated from some parts of town. The most common type dogs in the shelters here are lab and terrier mixes. I think that maybe one factor could be because there are breed specific rescue groups that helps some? I dunno, just a guess.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by hugz4all4

I will never understand why those who want a mixed breed dog gets so much grief when in reality most all people who sell dogs, purebreds included do it for the money but because the one we want is a "mutt" were wrong and supporting puppymills etc....

I'm sure "most" do breed for the money--the reason I say this is because "most" of the dogs you see being produced these days are clearly not well bred or far from the breed standard. Those producing that caliber of dog are certainly not in it for breed preservation and appreciation...
Again, there is nothing wrong with wanting a mutt. I think that anyone who supported a breeder with questionable practices, be they purebreds or mutts, would face the same scrutiny. I wouldn't support someone breeding pure Yorkies who was in it just for the money either. I guess with the "designer breeds" it's just easier to distinguish those types of breeders.

[Gabbymom]

The picture in my avatar is Gabby and she is a shorkie.

Puppyfind is a good place to look. You can also do a search for local newspapers in your area and can read their classifieds online. You can do a search in the areas you are willing to travel to as well.

Good luck in finding your new furbaby!

[MindieRose]

The reason there might not be a lot of purebreds in the local public shelters is because there are a ton of purebred rescues that get them right when they arrive to the pound or if they are brought into a vets office, the vet will have a list of these rescues (like we did at my old work) that they will call. We have locally rescues for" boston terriers (they have over 50!), pugs, American Eskimo, Weimeriner, Husky, Sheltie, and I am sure there are more that I cannot think of right now and that I don't feel like searching petfinder for. Not to mention the numerous private rescues that take in all different purebreds. I saw one that had 25 different purebred dogs at least. That by far equals more than the mixed breeds that we have in the humane society or public animal shelter here. So I guess if people are looking for a purebred they shouldn't go to a breeder then since there are more than enough purebreds in rescues and shelters.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

So I guess if people are looking for a purebred they shouldn't go to a breeder then since there are more than enough purebreds in rescues and shelters.

Of course you are right...if a rescue is the type dog they want.
I think that this would be an interesting point for you to bring up the next time someone posts about having difficulty locating a YT in rescue.

[MindieRose]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Of course you are right...if a rescue is the type dog they want.
I think that this would be an interesting point for you to bring up the next time someone posts about having difficulty locating a YT in rescue.

Well there are at least 7 purebreds local to me. Strangly they are all at the pekingese and shih tzu rescue.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

Well there are at least 7 purebreds local to me. Strangly they are all at the pekingese and shih tzu rescue.

Makes perfect sense...kind of backs up the theory both you and I have stated. And the theory that others have stated that there are not an abundance of purebreds in shelters. I can only assume that those in rescue face a more promising future than those in the shelters in regards to not being at risk for being euthanized.

[jeanief]

Here is one of the Snorkie ads. Champion lined or sired yorkies crossed with whatever. My questions is, why would a breeder do this? This type of champion cross makes pups that can look like this. If you want this look why not just go to the pound? He's cute, but come on now, where is the Yorkie in this pup? I also saw ads for up to $1,800 for the mixes on puppyfind. A mix for $1,800, you can't say they are not in it for the $$. ( the picture is from another ad for snorkies, not the ad listed below)



My AKC Champion-bred Tiny Teacup Yorkshire Terrier
Stud Dogs are crossed with the Shih Tzu, Toy
Poodle, Pekingese, Lhasa Apso, West Highland
White Terrier, & 2 AKC Champion Yorkshire Terrier
Females to produce the tiniest Teacup Hybrid
Designer Dog puppies you can find! (ShorkieTzu
puppies, Yorkipoo puppies, Yorkinese puppies,
Yorkie Apso puppies, Fourche Terrier puppies & and
of course some full breed AKC Champion Show
Quality Yorkshire Terrier & very tiny Teacup

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by jeanief

Here is one of the Snorkie ads. Champion lined or sired yorkies crossed with whatever. My questions is, why would a breeder do this? This type of champion cross makes pups that can look like this.

Never made sense to me either. If all you are going to do is cross the dog with something else, why would it matter if the dog is a CH...or if the dog even met the standard for the breed for that matter? If you are not breeding it to produce offspring that have a standard at all anyway? Just seems like an easy way to make $$$ without having to 'conform' IMO.

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by jeanief

Here is one of the Snorkie ads. Champion lined or sired yorkies crossed with whatever. My questions is, why would a breeder do this? This type of champion cross makes pups that can look like this. If you want this look why not just go to the pound? He's cute, but come on now, where is the Yorkie in this pup? I also saw ads for up to $1,800 for the mixes on puppyfind. A mix for $1,800, you can't say they are not in it for the $$. ( the picture is from another ad for snorkies, not the ad listed below)



My AKC Champion-bred Tiny Teacup Yorkshire Terrier
Stud Dogs are crossed with the Shih Tzu, Toy
Poodle, Pekingese, Lhasa Apso, West Highland
White Terrier, & 2 AKC Champion Yorkshire Terrier
Females to produce the tiniest Teacup Hybrid
Designer Dog puppies you can find! (ShorkieTzu
puppies, Yorkipoo puppies, Yorkinese puppies,
Yorkie Apso puppies, Fourche Terrier puppies & and
of course some full breed AKC Champion Show
Quality Yorkshire Terrier & very tiny Teacup

i can bet that all the puppy millers have ads on puppyfind..
purebred or mixed.. puppy mills breed enslaved dogs and many are sick.. the moms and dads are slaves of the greeders.. dont buy a puppy without visting the breeders home first..