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nexus · 10-08-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

you are absolutely right there.

Hi We have the cat breeders posting on here now so if people dont listen well i guess they will find out, I have been trying to stop Tracy Furlotte for over a year now but she seems to manage to jump through hoops,PLease if you dont want to listen to me then listen to the cat breeders they have been through it first hand I was justing to help them get justice as they are in the US and Tracy Furlotte has conned them out of enough money which would cost them a few bucks to hire a lawyer in canada to bring justice forward so with me being a canadian and I have also had first hand dealings with her aswell not as bad as some but at this point she needs to just hide under a rock.........Tracy Gault
Gault Pups, Hamilton, Ontario

nexus · 10-08-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008

Jeez people! can't you resolve your petty arguments elsewhere???

this is pathetic! Like, how rude! this person asked about experiences with dovercastle not for some vengeful, hateful person and an unethical breeder start arguing. Something my mother and i hope yours too taught me was :if you can't say anything nice then do't say it at all! come on people we are not in preschool anymore!

admin i agree with gazou that this thread needs to be shut down as it is just an outlet for these two to rant and hate on each other.

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This isant about hate it is about a person that has a track record of animal abuse and has been kicked out of many clubs and has caused terrible pain to animals and has broken many hearts, But I guess because she hasnt caused you or your animals pain it doesnt really matter????????read the cat breeders letters,
Tracy Gault

Lorraine · 10-08-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nexus

This isant about hate it is about a person that has a track record of animal abuse and has been kicked out of many clubs and has caused terrible pain to animals and has broken many hearts, But I guess because she hasnt caused you or your animals pain it doesnt really matter????????read the cat breeders letters,
Tracy Gault

Well said and I do wish the world was rose coloured but it is not. I have a hard time thinking about animals that suffer abuse and or neglect eventually dying in bad conditions and pain.

KatAttack · 10-08-2008, 08:34 PM

Yorkie_mom
Wow! I am not an unethical breeder and I am not a vengeful hateful person either. Now you are casting stones. This person ASKED about Dovercastle experiences and we told what we knew. There must have been some concern or they wouldn't be looking for information. How can that be vengeful or hateful? Your mother should have also taught you that truth will prevail. Why in the world would you find it wrong to tell the truth about a terrible breeder so other people or animals won't be destoyed? Keeping blinders on does not solve any issues. You must be a Furlotte fan. Give her time and you will understand why we are so adament in stopping her abuse.
Again, I will repeat.............Furlotte was thrown out of the cat fancy permanently and the reason were very valid. That in itself speaks volumes.
Linda

Lorraine · 10-08-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KatAttack

Yorkie_mom
Wow! I am not an unethical breeder and I am not a vengeful hateful person either. Now you are casting stones. This person ASKED about Dovercastle experiences and we told what we knew. There must have been some concern or they wouldn't be looking for information. How can that be vengeful or hateful? Your mother should have also taught you that truth will prevail. Why in the world would you find it wrong to tell the truth about a terrible breeder so other people or animals won't be destoyed? Keeping blinders on does not solve any issues. You must be a Furlotte fan. Give her time and you will understand why we are so adament in stopping her abuse.
Again, I will repeat.............Furlotte was thrown out of the cat fancy permanently and the reason were very valid. That in itself speaks volumes.
Linda

And thank you for posting the information.

katelin · 10-08-2008, 09:02 PM

Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.

YORKIE_mom_2008 · 10-08-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nexus

This isant about hate it is about a person that has a track record of animal abuse and has been kicked out of many clubs and has caused terrible pain to animals and has broken many hearts, But I guess because she hasnt caused you or your animals pain it doesnt really matter????????read the cat breeders letters,
Tracy Gault

Funny I don;t think I mentioned anything about her treatment towards animals, just the impression I got after reading this thread. If you cannot deal with your own problems or at VERY least make your own thread to argue on well then you have some issues to work out.

YORKIE_mom_2008 · 10-08-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KatAttack

Yorkie_mom
Wow! I am not an unethical breeder and I am not a vengeful hateful person either. Now you are casting stones. This person ASKED about Dovercastle experiences and we told what we knew. There must have been some concern or they wouldn't be looking for information. How can that be vengeful or hateful? Your mother should have also taught you that truth will prevail. Why in the world would you find it wrong to tell the truth about a terrible breeder so other people or animals won't be destoyed? Keeping blinders on does not solve any issues. You must be a Furlotte fan. Give her time and you will understand why we are so adament in stopping her abuse.
Again, I will repeat.............Furlotte was thrown out of the cat fancy permanently and the reason were very valid. That in itself speaks volumes.
Linda

hmmmmmmmm........ Did I call you an unethical breeder? Yes you definatly told the OP alright and that is fine but the constant "you did this and she did that" does get kinda boring after awhile. Get your point across then shut it! Why is this so hard to understand. And as a matter of fact I am not a "Furlotte fan" as after research, I find her program not one that I would deal with. Maybe you should get a life and stop bashing people if they deserve it or not.

YORKIE_mom_2008 · 10-08-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by katelin

Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.

I agree with you 100% If this thread is not closed I think someone should PM them!

yorkieisme · 10-09-2008, 02:06 AM

Guys I think this whole bashing was a set up. OP comes on asking her question, then the next thing a bunch of cat people come on board to bash her. One breeder even stated she bred a dog that was insane because she was a "good producer". This board needs to be closed down, it was all about bashing and revenge on someone. Even if she is a bad breeder she does not deserve this type of treatment from a bunch of women who are mad and one even stating she is producing puppies off a "mental case". This breeder stated that the animal lived in a cage and that is why. Still doesn't matter, she probably still is a mental case and should have snapped out of by now if she is not living in cage.

Oh I have been to cat shows, and those people are rude, mean, and right down hateful. They have been known to make cats sick so they could win a title. Not saying it is the posters, but I know for a fact that some do it. I also know some that are showing risk the cats lives, because they want to produce show and they find out the cats tested Positive for PKD, so they feel if they put one negative PKD with a POS.they will have a 50% litter of Neg. PKD kittens. Horrible liver disease, however out of a show breeder mouth... "its to expensive to start back over, so what am I suppose to do".

Lorraine · 10-09-2008, 06:21 AM

No point in responding any further. I feel very sorry for the people and their Yorkies, that are responding that want to close the thread.

heavenlydogs · 10-09-2008, 06:50 AM

I'm a rescue person, and have been rescuing animals for 17+ years now. In my experience, and I know that most rescue people will agree, where there is smoke there is usually fire of some sort.

I don't see a setup, I simply see that the cat people are keeping a close eye on this person, and there were some valid points in the posting. We may not have all the details, but she was right that for the Cat Fanciers Association to ban you for life, it ad to be pretty drastic, this was not a fine, or a warning or admonition, they took a firm stance.

How do you see it as set up? a question was asked, and answered. As for a bunch of cat people
seems there is ONE telling what the cat people know about this person who was a CAT PERSON, and was kicked out of all the cat clubs, for reasons given. http://www.cfainc.org/org/disciplinary-suspensions.pdf does confirm part of her posting.

As for cat people rude have you been to a dog show lately ? or horse show ? don't label a group of people
for those few. We are all animal lovers who have a preference, ours happens to be Yorkies, and in my case, any living animal with 4 legs and breath qualifies, lol.

And as I see it, that breeder, she said the dog was insane she never said it still is, ' did you see something I didn't?

I think that enough has been brought out here that dovercastle will be watched. If and when anything comes out, then we will know that the Cat people and the other breeders were justified in saying all this. If not it will die it's natural death, and her work will stand for itself.

Being in rescue, and being members of various groups, I will say this is not the first time I have heard murmerings about this person/kennel. All I can say is watch, and wait, and be careful in any dealings.

It may not affect those of you who are further away much, because you may not have dealings in Canada, but for the Canadians, it is a flag to be watched.

One more thing... if you hate reading this, just ignore it and move on. If something is no longer of interest to me or bores me, it's time to move on to something a heck of a lot more interesting.

Now don't attack me its JMO.

011011 · 10-09-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by katelin

Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.

Agreed 110%

yorkieisme · 10-09-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 011011

Agreed 110%

I agree with everyone in saying remove or stop this thread....all of these new people coming in and causing more problems. Rescue or not doesn't matter.....who cares. Doesn't make you someone special to believe does it. This is crazy

Timmy · 10-09-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by katelin

Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief.

Yeah I don't understand it either

10-08-2008, 09:02 PM	#36
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,778	Where the heck are the moderators???? Are you kidding me! This nonsense is allowed to go on without any interference and others get warnings just for going off-topic in a thread. Good Grief. __________________ *LaVail Yorkshire Terriers*

10-09-2008, 06:21 AM	#41
Lorraine Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abbotsford, BC Posts: 2,060	No point in responding any further. I feel very sorry for the people and their Yorkies, that are responding that want to close the thread. __________________ Lorraine www.loribenyorkies.com Canada

10-08-2008, 08:34 PM	#34
KatAttack YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Modesto California USA Posts: 5	Yorkie_mom Wow! I am not an unethical breeder and I am not a vengeful hateful person either. Now you are casting stones. This person ASKED about Dovercastle experiences and we told what we knew. There must have been some concern or they wouldn't be looking for information. How can that be vengeful or hateful? Your mother should have also taught you that truth will prevail. Why in the world would you find it wrong to tell the truth about a terrible breeder so other people or animals won't be destoyed? Keeping blinders on does not solve any issues. You must be a Furlotte fan. Give her time and you will understand why we are so adament in stopping her abuse. Again, I will repeat.............Furlotte was thrown out of the cat fancy permanently and the reason were very valid. That in itself speaks volumes. Linda

10-09-2008, 02:06 AM	#40
yorkieisme No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: berea, ky Posts: 417	Guys I think this whole bashing was a set up. OP comes on asking her question, then the next thing a bunch of cat people come on board to bash her. One breeder even stated she bred a dog that was insane because she was a "good producer". This board needs to be closed down, it was all about bashing and revenge on someone. Even if she is a bad breeder she does not deserve this type of treatment from a bunch of women who are mad and one even stating she is producing puppies off a "mental case". This breeder stated that the animal lived in a cage and that is why. Still doesn't matter, she probably still is a mental case and should have snapped out of by now if she is not living in cage. Oh I have been to cat shows, and those people are rude, mean, and right down hateful. They have been known to make cats sick so they could win a title. Not saying it is the posters, but I know for a fact that some do it. I also know some that are showing risk the cats lives, because they want to produce show and they find out the cats tested Positive for PKD, so they feel if they put one negative PKD with a POS.they will have a 50% litter of Neg. PKD kittens. Horrible liver disease, however out of a show breeder mouth... "its to expensive to start back over, so what am I suppose to do".

10-09-2008, 06:50 AM	#42
heavenlydogs YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 1	I'm a rescue person, and have been rescuing animals for 17+ years now. In my experience, and I know that most rescue people will agree, where there is smoke there is usually fire of some sort. I don't see a setup, I simply see that the cat people are keeping a close eye on this person, and there were some valid points in the posting. We may not have all the details, but she was right that for the Cat Fanciers Association to ban you for life, it ad to be pretty drastic, this was not a fine, or a warning or admonition, they took a firm stance. How do you see it as set up? a question was asked, and answered. As for a bunch of cat people seems there is ONE telling what the cat people know about this person who was a CAT PERSON, and was kicked out of all the cat clubs, for reasons given. http://www.cfainc.org/org/disciplinary-suspensions.pdf does confirm part of her posting. As for cat people rude have you been to a dog show lately ? or horse show ? don't label a group of people for those few. We are all animal lovers who have a preference, ours happens to be Yorkies, and in my case, any living animal with 4 legs and breath qualifies, lol. And as I see it, that breeder, she said the dog was insane she never said it still is, ' did you see something I didn't? I think that enough has been brought out here that dovercastle will be watched. If and when anything comes out, then we will know that the Cat people and the other breeders were justified in saying all this. If not it will die it's natural death, and her work will stand for itself. Being in rescue, and being members of various groups, I will say this is not the first time I have heard murmerings about this person/kennel. All I can say is watch, and wait, and be careful in any dealings. It may not affect those of you who are further away much, because you may not have dealings in Canada, but for the Canadians, it is a flag to be watched. One more thing... if you hate reading this, just ignore it and move on. If something is no longer of interest to me or bores me, it's time to move on to something a heck of a lot more interesting. Now don't attack me its JMO.