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AKC sent me a letter today stating that my bitch's DNA is NOT a match to her SIRE. Can anyone tell me if anything like this has happened to them? Today, I got a letter from the AKC and it stated that a bitch I purchased from a breeder in Cicero, Indiana three year ago has the wrong sire. They said that they just did a DNA reference test on one of the litter mates from the same litter as my bitch, and it was NOT a match. They have told me to send them a sample of my bitch's DNA as some litters have different sires from the same litter, but for now my AKC registration is void until the breeder can provide the correct information to them regarding the true sire. We are very worried. Can anyone advise? |
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I have NOT heard from the breeder for almost a year. I have continuously sent emails to keep her updated on the dog which I sent to the only email address I had, and she has never replied. I am going to try to send a certified letter to her home address with a copy of the AKC letter attached and hope I get an answer. I spoke with a AKC representative this morning on the Phone and they told me that they have sent the breeder a request for validation to this problem too. They told me that I could not register any litter from this female in the future or even show her in conformation. I am scared, we paid $1,500 for her, and now we have no registration. |
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Good luck, i hope everything works out!!! |
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:aimeeyork This happened to me also...except mine was a puppy. By the time I found out there was a problem I was in love with my little girl. Basically I was had and my little girl is not registrable, unless I can figure out who the sire was on my own. Which is impossible without the help of the parties I purchased her from. |
I did have this happen. I did have contact with the breeder and she said the paper work had gotten mixed up and it would be rectified shortly. I know the breeder went out of business shortly thereafter. She said it was because of her health and all the stress caused by this situation. Unfortunately, my girl died before it got straightened out so I don't know how it would have ended. I just let it go. Sylvia |
Some breeders seem to have trouble keeping their paperwork straight, judging from the number of suspensions for these issues. It could be that your female will be registerable, with a different sire. What a shame your breeder is not being responsive. Does AKC say that they will try to match your female's DNA with another sire owned by the breeder if you send them a sample?? If they can match it, I would hope they would issue you a corrected registration certificate. Best wishes with this problem. |
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I was timed out trying to edit the previous post...not a real typist. I have a breeder friend that had this situation come up and she was certain AKC had it wrong. She had to retest each male and several females to solve the mystery. At some point she or one of her helpers had mixed up two puppies and placed them into the wrong litters. It doesn't seem possible and she was certain it didn't happen....but it did. The other possibility is that more than one sire bred the Dam. The best thing to hope for would be that the other puppy was misplaced into the litter your puppy came from. You will probably have to have your girl tested either way. Just pray that none of them has passed away after being bred. I wish you the best.:) |
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I had that happen once too. Only it was me who did it. I thot I could figure out which puppy belonged to which mother but I had let too much time pass before I marked down the changes the puppies were going thru. I just sold them without papers. Sylvia |
I'm sorry this happened to you. I doubt after a year of emails she won't return your mail, and knows she did something wrong. |
sorry this has happen to you! |
Sorry that this has happened to you. I would say the first step would be to some how get a hold of the breeder. Can you visit her residence? If not a certified letter should get you started. Good luck. |
Thanks, thats a good idea. I am ordering a DNA kit to be sent to the AKC. I am sure they will try to help solve this mystery. Tell you what....This list has been very helpful regarding my subject. I have found several other folks who have had similar issues. However, I am reading that most of the time AKC won't do anything on your behalf to rectify the problem. It seems that is totally up to the breeder or the owner to hash out together, so I am not holding my breath so to speak. However, I would like to try and resolve it if I can. |
Sorry to hear about you situation, hope things get better. |
OMG! I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, but what a disappointment!! |
Dna Can you imagine if you had shown her, got a championship, bred her and sold her puppies...you would have a ton of money to refund...and if you find the breeder, she owes you money and all the other pups she sold with incorrect DNA... AKC will not help you with a refund from the breeder..that is a civil matter, but they should give you the breeders address if she is still registering with AKC...good luck |
I have a question and maybe it makes me sound ignorant but I'm going to ask anyway. Roxie is my first purebred dog, I've always adopted from a shelter. Anyway...if your not planning on showing or breeding and your yorkie is just for my pure pleasure of a companion is it still necessary or important to register them? |
Papers I have two champion-sired girls that are too small to breed..I haven't even bothered to register them...and have no plans to so so. Not important to me... |
Thank you, I was just wondering how important it is or not. That answers my question. |
I bet If you emailed her and told her you were planning on flying in to see her next week she would reply Quote:
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Wow, what a story! So happy to know that AKC does check.;) |
I for one think this is bad breeding practices...I'm a Breeder and I know which male is the sire to my puppies...I have 2 males and 3 females, I just don't see how in the world a breeder could get things such as this messed up...Not a good breeder in my OPO... There's where a Breeder should "KNOW" when to separate males and females due to heat cycles and keep their records straight...And keep litters separate too... I've never had 2 litters at one time though but I would not think it would be hard to know which Damn had what puppies if you kept your records straight...and kept the damns and litters separate in playpens...This is sad this is happening in our Yorkshire Terrier Breed... If I was you and this was done to me, I would ask for any fees that I had incurred while I was searching and trying to figure this all out after all it is her fault you are in this situation. If this ever happen to me as a Breeder I would be more then willing to help one of my adopted parents out in any way I could and yes refund their expenses during their search. I wish you the best in your search & please keep us updated on your findings. :) Lee |
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Wow! I am in shock with this thread. I never knew that AKC could revoke registeration. |
Looks like a major can of worms has just been opened. I had all three of mine DNA tested, but I suppose it went just fine. NOW, I think anyone who pays a lot for a puppy, show quality or not, just because of some Champion backgrounds should insist on them getting the parents DNA tested and you get the puppy tested, and a contract drawn up that your money will be returned in the event the puppy isn't from the parents they said it was. |
Wow, this is all pretty scary... I have been scammed out of papers before.. and the breeder seems to be able to get away with it.. not right..I would try taking her to civil court tho.. and go for money.. hit where it hurts her.. mabye then she might look after things better as a breeder...I am with yorkierose.. if it is for a pet.. who cares about papers.. but for breeding, showing.. you need those papers.. anne |
I had this happen to me, but Maggies breeder Hurd about Poodles in Ohio and the AKC straightened it out within the year and reinstated her. I didn't worry about it because we had already had Maggie spayed as I got ther for a pet and not for breeding. I don't know what you can do if the breeder is unhelpful. Good Luck. I hope you get this figured out... |
Get What You Pay For I think if you pay for an AKC dog then that's what you should get, she said she paid $1500.00 that's ALOT of money, if it's the dog is not for breeding or showing she still should have gotten the correct papers because that's what she paid for. pet or not. I hope the breeder helps you get the correct papers. best of luck to you. |
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