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Litllam88 08-07-2008 03:52 PM

Good Luck
 
I haven't had that expeience, but I know some breeders friends who did have that happen to them. They said it was a mess trying to figure things out. Some breeders have several litters at the same time and get things confused and others do it knowingly. AKC doesn't get involved...they just want you to resolve it yourself. They can probably help you get the breeders contact info, if it's up to date in their records. Maybe the breeder moved or have a new email address?

BamaFan121s 08-07-2008 06:21 PM

Interesting...
 
I just got a call about this thread (thanks M;)) and had to read it to see what all the fuss was about. Now that I've read it, I'm even more confused than when I started out! :confuse2:

Apparently there's some...misinformation...floating around that I've been PMing the OP(?) in regards to this breeder's 'whereabouts.' Not true. :rolleyes: I haven't PMed the OP about anything, much less about this breeder. Heck, I hadn't even read this thread until about 15 min ago. :p Furthermore, I have no clue who the breeder in question is and don't even know any breeders in Indiana--is this someone on YT?

To the OP (ggggggg)-- I don't know what the success rate is when disputing something like this with AKC or where to even suggest starting. From the sounds of it and the responses from others, seems like the best you could hope for is the satisfaction of an AKC suspension against this person...which doesn't really help YOU out much, unfortunately. :( Seems like you've done everything within your power to resolve this in a civil manner at this point. (If it were me, I'd be pounding on the breeder's front door!)

If you think there is any info that I have that could help you out and want to clue me in as to what in the heck is going on, I'd be glad to help you in anyway I can... I don't blame you for being upset over this. If the story is as you claim--and I have no reason to suspect otherwise--I'd be ticked and wanting some answers and resolution too! :mad:

Good luck getting this whole mess straitened out...keep us updated on the outcome! :)

Pepperdell 08-13-2008 09:05 PM

I went through this last year with a girl I bought and being a breeder I wanted to make sure all my breeding stock pedigrees were correct so I DNA'd her. Come to find out that her DNA did not match. AKC handled everything. They did a kennel inspection of the breeder, DNA'd everything she had in her house, and about 6 to 8 months later, AKC sent me corrected registration papers with a different sire from who I thought was her sire. I don't know really what they did to the breeder but from what I last heard from her they were talking of taking her registry priviledges/ Very nerve racking experience. If she has not matched any sire or if the breeder had not cooperated, I guess I would have had an unregistrable dog.

ggggggg 08-19-2008 06:33 PM

Update
 
Thanks again for all the replies. I really appreciate the terrific answers some of you have. I now have the DNA kit from AKC, and am sending it back tomorrow, so I should know if my dogs profile has a match with what the breeder put down for the sire on her AKC litter registration very soon.

When I get the results I will post them here for discussion. I am hoping that there will be a possibility that the AKC might do a kennel inspection of the breeders stock, and DNA all of her dogs which might uncover the true sire to my dog. If not, I will POST the breeders full name and last known address on this site, along with my dogs original AKC litter registration number for all to see and maybe check if they have a pup from the same litter as me.

HillbillyBelle 08-20-2008 01:51 PM

I bought a male from a "breeder" with all the papers, etc. But, same thing as some others have posted. The "breeder" was a "seller" who sold her friends puppies and passed them off as hers. Paperwork was incorrect on several litters so AKC withdrew all regs, fined her a hefty sum and revoked her AKC priv for life. Also , her husband's. Well, guess what. She was right back at selling the following month under a different name.
I hope you get your registrations straightened out, but be ready for the long haul...The corrections seem to take forever..

jeanief 08-21-2008 07:59 AM

I had it happened to me on a male I bought. When he was old enough to start breeding I sent in a DNA to AKC. His supposed sire was already on file with AKC so when I got my DNa papers back form AKC I thought everything was good to go and all checked out fine. NOT! About 1 yr or so later I got a letter stating that my sire's sire was incorrect, and all the pups that my dog had sired were getting their papers pulled. I assumed that when a breeder sends in their dogs DNA, it was checked to see if the sire is correct ( before they issued a DNA cert.) Not always the case which really shocked me! Anyway the breeder I got him from was very honest and we found out who the sire was and things got corrected at their expense. Hope you get things worked out !

txshopper73 08-21-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ggggggg (Post 2191720)
Thanks again for all the replies. I really appreciate the terrific answers some of you have. I now have the DNA kit from AKC, and am sending it back tomorrow, so I should know if my dogs profile has a match with what the breeder put down for the sire on her AKC litter registration very soon.

When I get the results I will post them here for discussion. I am hoping that there will be a possibility that the AKC might do a kennel inspection of the breeders stock, and DNA all of her dogs which might uncover the true sire to my dog. If not, I will POST the breeders full name and last known address on this site, along with my dogs original AKC litter registration number for all to see and maybe check if they have a pup from the same litter as me.

Good luck! Will be interesting to see what the outcome is.

NANCYETTA 08-21-2008 11:46 AM

Please Keep Us Up Datedon This As It Could Happen To Anybody.good Luck

Amazing Yorkies 08-21-2008 04:07 PM

This happened to me years ago. My 1st litter out my AKC Champion was bred to a female I had purchased as a puppy. My breeding was fine, but upon the DNA my female didn't match her sire... :(
I had a litter of Champion Sired babies which their Mom didn't match her sire. Of course, I found out after I had sold the babies with registrations. I was frantic, so were my puppy owners. It was a mess, and very stressful. The breeder wasn't much help at 1st, but after a suspension, I guess she had to DNA all her dogs at her expense and it was fixed and my female ended up registered and whew then her babies were able to be registered. It took a year to get straightened out.
I'm sorry it has happened to you too, and I wish you great success in getting it straightened out.

bonmur 08-31-2008 10:29 PM

I had this happen to me about 6 months ago on a little female Shih Tzu I bought. I had already made plans to spay so it was not an issue but I felt robbed The breeder said it was not a problem on her end but of the breeder of her male. SO they had to retest the other ladies dog as she had 2 males at the time. They put a hold on my females paperwork until they ahd retested the grandise as well as other males in the home. They must have gotten it straightened out because about 6 months later they reinstated her papers and it was in fact another male in the home that was the grandsire.
I honestly still think there is something up with the litter as this little female has almost a maltese bite. She looks shih tzu through and through except for her bite . She has a really severe parrot mouth. SO bad in fact that it almost looks like she cannot keep her tongue in her mouth. She is living with my niece now and we love her tons as does my niece papers or not :-)

spiked_poodle 09-01-2008 05:08 AM

QUOTE=HillbillyBelle;2193326]I bought a male from a "breeder" with all the papers, etc. But, same thing as some others have posted. The "breeder" was a "seller" who sold her friends puppies and passed them off as hers. Paperwork was incorrect on several litters so AKC withdrew all regs, fined her a hefty sum and revoked her AKC priv for life. Also , her husband's. Well, guess what. She was right back at selling the following month under a different name.
I hope you get your registrations straightened out, but be ready for the long haul...The corrections seem to take forever..[/QUOTE]

This sounds very similiar to my situation with Uma. They did nothing to this seller though. Took a while to get over it.

ButterflyKisses 09-02-2008 04:44 PM

Sometime this can actually be AKC's mistake. I had a dog that was 2 1/2 years old when I had him DNA'd for AKC when he had sired his 4th AKC litter. AKC came back on me saying that his AKC had been temporarily revoked as his DNA didn't match his sire's DNA. It was a mess - but around 1 1/2 years later after lots of money was spent on DNA test - it was proven that everything was actually correct and that the sire WAS the correct sire of this dog as was originally stated. In the meantime, the litter's of my dog also had their AKC Rights revoked until this mess was cleaned up and I had my puppy families mad at me with there being nothing really that I could do, while the whole time it was the fault of AKC.
There are many times it might be mixed up record keeping,or someone going, "ooops, who was she with" and "guessing" the wrong male, or someone not caring, but AKC can also make mistakes as shown with the situation I had. I've known other breeders who have also had this same thing happen with AKC.
I've never known AKC to refund back the money for all the DNA testing when the mistake is theirs, but I am glad that AKC does what is needed to make sure things are correct.

TatumsMom 09-03-2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roxies_mom (Post 2154512)
I have a question and maybe it makes me sound ignorant but I'm going to ask anyway.
Roxie is my first purebred dog, I've always adopted from a shelter. Anyway...if your not planning on showing or breeding and your yorkie is just for my pure pleasure of a companion is it still necessary or important to register them?

Just now getting around to reading this thread and saw that your question went unanswered. In my opinion, if you're not planning to breed and only want a companion, the papers are really a moot point. Yes, I sent Tatum's papers in right away (as did we with our toy poodle previously) but her registration sits in a file not really meaning a thing. We never planned to breed her. I hope that answers your question.


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