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neersyorkies 07-11-2008 08:10 AM
Hi Nancy !
I'm very sorry that you and your Pippin had a hard time last night :eek:I know how scarry that is. But thank's God all went alright and that your little girl and her baby's are save at home:).You did the right ting to go to the Vet. and didn't wait.Enjoy your puppies.:D

maxmom 07-11-2008 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 2106127)
I would not pull on the water bubble, it is fluid filled not puppy filled and will break. Many times it will do that on its own but I don't want to be the cause of it. Now a sac filled with a puppy is different, once I can get a decent grip on a puppy, esp. one that is coming rear feet first, I will pull on the puppy in conjunction with the contractions. But these are two different things, one has fluid, the other a puppy.
Thanks, this is good to know.

Jeri Cunningham 07-11-2008 08:44 AM
I'm so glad everything is OK. I posted information last night from Dr. Larry, you might want to go and check out the web site I attached. You may also find more information that is helpful.

I'm so glad it worked out OK.

Little Bit 07-11-2008 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeri Cunningham (Post 2106214)
I'm so glad everything is OK. I posted information last night from Dr. Larry, you might want to go and check out the web site I attached. You may also find more information that is helpful.

I'm so glad it worked out OK.

Thank you, Jeri. I will definitely check it out.

GurleyGirl 07-11-2008 09:09 AM
Congratulations Nancy on the birth of the pups! Glad the c-section turned out OK. There have been some real "interesting" births going on here lately... real "page turners". I am glad everything worked out well and can't wait to watch them grow. :)

linda44 07-11-2008 09:15 AM
Couldnt what was seen be a disolved puppy since there was nothing in the birth canal? My friend had pups and one was disolved, and had a brownish yukky stuff, the other two were born, one died, and the third was ok

I think you did the right thing, because unless you had a xray recently you could have had a pup stuck in the birth canal. Ive heard stories of vets having to actually cut the pup in half because it was so stuck. When my Kalani pushed for an hour and quit I knew it wasnt right, we jumped in the car and off to the vet to xray (we had done a sonogram). Sure enough the puppy was right there but its head was bigger than the birth canal, so Im so glad I went. Needless to say, Kalani was c sectioned and fixed. Congrats on your new babies, and good luck on your upcoming birth.

Little Bit 07-11-2008 09:25 AM
Now it's Mazey's Turn!
 
Mazey has a bubble out! I can't believe these two girls are going to deliver on the same day!!

Miley's mom 07-11-2008 09:44 AM
omg!
 
I'm just reading your thread .......praying for a good whelping for your 2nd girl. And congratulations on your 2 newborn babies. Get some coffee out so you can be up and alert and cookies for energy. :)

Little Bit 07-11-2008 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Miley's mom (Post 2106323)
I'm just reading your thread .......praying for a good whelping for your 2nd girl. And congratulations on your 2 newborn babies. Get some coffee out so you can be up and alert and cookies for energy. :)

Thanks for the prayers! She and I will probably need them. The bubble just went almost all the way back in. No contractions, no panting. :confused: I don't drink coffee or caffeinated drinks, but the cookies sure sound good! LOL

chachi 07-11-2008 10:02 AM
Wow are you busy today!!!! Congrats on the pups delivered earlier and best of luck with the recent whelp

Chloe and Joey 07-11-2008 10:03 AM
I, too, have been following your thread from the beginning. Prayers and hugs being sent your way. Hoping that everything turns out well for everyone. Glad to hear that Momma #1 and the pups are healthy.

Sounds like another busy day for you. Please keep us posted.

Little Bit 07-11-2008 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chloe and Joey (Post 2106352)
I, too, have been following your thread from the beginning. Prayers and hugs being sent your way. Hoping that everything turns out well for everyone. Glad to hear that Momma #1 and the pups are healthy.

Sounds like another busy day for you. Please keep us posted.

Thank you! I will post updates as I can. Things seem to have come to a standstill for the moment.

xxmxaxrxyxx 07-11-2008 11:55 AM
congrats on your new litter!

BaileysMom2008 07-11-2008 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Bit (Post 2106380)
Thank you! I will post updates as I can. Things seem to have come to a standstill for the moment.
Just checking in how are the girls doing! And the babies? Im so happy for you! Its amazing how they are going the same day! I hope everything goes well for your second one. Hopefully she can/did go natural. Sending prayers your way....Keep us posted.

Judy in Waco 07-11-2008 04:19 PM
Wow! When it rains...:eek:

linda44 07-11-2008 04:50 PM
Hows mama #2 doing? Hope all is going well, sending prayers your way for a healthy delivery.

Little Bit 07-11-2008 06:54 PM
Mazey Update
 
After two hours + of hard contractions and pushing Mazey also had a C-section (someone want to give me a loan??). The good news is she had
FIVE PUPPIES!!!! They all weighed between 4 oz (smallest one) and 5 oz (biggest). She had three boys and two girls! I will post pictures probably tomorrow, I am just too beat and still have so much to do to get everybody settled in.

Thank you everyone for your caring, support, prayers, positive thoughts, etc. It really helped. I think you are all so wonderful!

JaLaYorkieGirl 07-11-2008 07:00 PM
Happy to hear both moms and babies are ok!
C-sections are no fun, especially 2 in one day...but they happen all too much with this breed. Hope you get some sleep this evening...boy is your house gonna be a lot of fun in about 8 weeks...lol.

IsabelsMom 07-11-2008 07:06 PM
I'm getting to this thread quite late, but relieved that everyone is doing well. Congratulations!!

wildcard 07-11-2008 07:54 PM
Congrats! I don't know if I could handle 2 sections in 1 day but guess that's' out of human control! You might give some thought to moving a puppy from the second girl to the first to help lessen the burden, 5 puppies is a lot! Of course it depends on the condition of the girls, their milk production, etc so think on it before doing it!

GurleyGirl 07-11-2008 07:54 PM
Congratulations...! You have had some day! Wishing you all the best with both moms and their pups... :)

Sunnie 07-11-2008 08:40 PM
wow! well I am just getting home and haven't been able to check on how things were going since I first saw this thread. What a day for you. I am glad everything turned out ok. 2 sections in one day would probably do me in as well.

bjh 07-12-2008 04:19 AM
Congratulations on your two new litters. I am sorry the mommas had such a hard time. I pray momma and babies will do well. What is the size of these two females?

linda44 07-12-2008 04:22 AM
congrats to you. I hope your able to get some rest now.

nikkinack 07-12-2008 05:04 AM
wow what a day you had. Hope all is going well today.

yoyo27 07-12-2008 05:26 AM
What a day you have had. Which vet did you use for the 2nd c section? Now maybe you can take a breath and watch those darling little puppies. Good Luck with the rest of the time. I know you have to be drained.

Little Bit 07-12-2008 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by yoyo27 (Post 2107891)
What a day you have had. Which vet did you use for the 2nd c section? Now maybe you can take a breath and watch those darling little puppies. Good Luck with the rest of the time. I know you have to be drained.

I went to the local vet for the 2nd C-section. It was great (if you can call a C-section great). My 14 year old daughter got to come with me this time and help stimulate the pups, etc. She was so amazed at it all.

I had been thinking about switching a pup or two to the other mom. The newest mom with the largest litter has some milk, but she hadn't really gotten into the mom mode yet. She just wanted to be with me and was very restless if I left the room. Finally last night I got her to lay down and nurse for quite awhile. She has ten nipples as opposed to the other mother's eight. The only problem is about six of those nipples are inverted and tiny. They still have milk in them, but the puppies can't really latch on. Her puppies have maintained their weight this morning, but if the don't start gaining today I will probably switch one or two.

The first mom with only two pups has plenty of milk and very prominent teats. So unless she doesn't accept them adding a pup or two seems like the way to go.

Little Bit 07-12-2008 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wildcard (Post 2107500)
Congrats! I don't know if I could handle 2 sections in 1 day but guess that's' out of human control! You might give some thought to moving a puppy from the second girl to the first to help lessen the burden, 5 puppies is a lot! Of course it depends on the condition of the girls, their milk production, etc so think on it before doing it!

That is what I will probably end up doing. Do the surogate mothers ever have a hard time with accepting the new ones?

Little Bit 07-12-2008 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 2107832)
Congratulations on your two new litters. I am sorry the mommas had such a hard time. I pray momma and babies will do well. What is the size of these two females?

Their normal weight is about five pounds. The one with the largest litter was a little on the slim side before pregnancy and now looks emaciated. The one with the smaller litter was a little overweight at the time of breeding (about 6 1/2 pounds). But she didn't gain a lot in her pregnancy and looks just fine now. That is another reason I am thinking about switching some pups. I don't want to stress the first one as she is SO skinny now.

bjh 07-12-2008 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Little Bit (Post 2107967)
Their normal weight is about five pounds. The one with the largest litter was a little on the slim side before pregnancy and now looks emaciated. The one with the smaller litter was a little overweight at the time of breeding (about 6 1/2 pounds). But she didn't gain a lot in her pregnancy and looks just fine now. That is another reason I am thinking about switching some pups. I don't want to stress the first one as she is SO skinny now.
I have switched puppies around with different mommas on a number of occasions and I have never had a problem. Most momma's will happily accept a new baby. It would probably be a wise thing to do. Did the vet have any idea's as to why the momma's could not deliver naturally? It seems the size of the puppies was not to big. I know this has been stressful on you. I hope you get some much needed rest.


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