Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2063885)

testing does not make a person a better breeder.. if there is one puppy in a litter with a disease, the entire breeding program needs to be ended.. those males and females need to be fixed.. no testing needed.. just retire them to be happy pets.. if you want to breed again, then get new healthy puppies.. and wait 2 years for them to grow up...
i asked my vet about testing, and she said it was not necessary..
if i see symptoms of illness, then it will be time to test.. and no one is drawing blood from my dogs jugular vein.. this is my definition of responsible..
thanks yt for teaching me from your experiences..:animal-pa

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2063725)

i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong..:) it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..:)

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2063725)

i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong..:) it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..:)

Originally Posted by Nikis2 (Post 2063439)

Hi I have been breeding about 2 or 3 litters a year of my Champion Sired females and have always sold my babies within a few weeks of birth. This is the first time in over 25 years that I still have puppies which will be 3 months old. There are so many people out there selling puppies you don't no what you are getting anymore. They are treating these babies like livestock for goodness sake.

Originally Posted by ScootieBootie (Post 2063504)

I'm looking for a yorkie to add to my family, but can't find one I can afford the purchase fee for! I just found one on craigslist that I'm hoping I can get...but it's probably already gone!!!!

I live in NC.

I absolutely think it's the economy AND the fact that you have so many "hobby breeders" and byb's nowadays that the competition is just to much!

I'm sorry to hear you are so negatively affected. I'm actually surprised you have any puppies left!!

Do you have a website? Photos? I'd love to see them!

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 2063699)

Watch what you say about the hobby breeder..:thumbdown if it were only show breeders that had good healthy puppies for sale.. then you would never own one.. they would be such a hot item the show breeders would not be able to keep up..I breed one litter a year.. I stand by the new owners and I stand by the puppies I sell... there is not one thing wrong with a hobby breeder..I would be willing to take anyone one with this.. and so would many others that hobby breed..a hobby breeder can breed with as much into it as a show breeder.. I can list more show breeders that have done things they would not ever let anyone know.. I have seen it.. hung around it.. and I have not a lot of faith in some..and I am not talking all.. but they show dogs in some shows that if I bred that same dog, I would be shunned.. so if you are not really involved in the show world and have not been taken by show people then I think one needs to walk the walk before they do the talk..
In fact there was a thread made by a breeder about testing.. maybe you could read it and learn some more.. I am not saying this to be mean.. but I think you and some others that do not breed or show.. need to get good advice before you put all the eggs in one basket.. am I upset.. your darn tooten I am..I would invite you into my home and see what I do and how I do it and how my dogs live and what testing is done. and who I would chose to be so lucky to own one of my precious babies..
anne

Originally Posted by MrsPeanut (Post 2065512)

I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that.

Originally Posted by MrsPeanut (Post 2065512)

I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that.

Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 2065798)

As unpopular as my view will be in this discussion, I believe it to be true. The reason anyone is having a difficult time selling puppies these days is not so much the economy but the fact that so many people are breeding yorkies anymore. I'm not saying anything against any specific breeder, person or trying to single any out, it's simply that there are many more breeders than ever before. When I first joined YT, there were breeders but not near the number that are currently active on the forum.

Maybe the supply is now far outweighing the demand?

Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2063946)

I have run into this problem for about 2 years now. People DO NOT want to wait for a quality pup, they WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! And then the puppy MUST be a T-CUP, guaranteed, and they MUST have breeding rights also. And with all the other "alternative" registries, the bybr's and the pet stores that accept payments and charge cards, its almost impossible to sell a good quality pup anymore for a decent price. And now with the economy, people dont want to drive either, they just want you to post pictures. How can you tell anything by that? You can post any bogus picture you want. I have seen alot of people selling puppies by the road side lately also. I guess they are trying to temp the people on major routes to the stores or on the way home from work.

Originally Posted by Nikis2 (Post 2066666)

When I first got into breeding many moons ago. There were only a few really good breeders in an area. But it was more a hobby and a love of doing it. I had people waiting 8 months for a new baby. They were sold or shall I say had contracts on them all the first few weeks of life. I also never had a room packed to the floor to ceiling with poor innocent animals either nor had I heard of such a thing. Now that is all you hear about. I think the reputable breeders started to raise their prices to set there babies apart from the mass produced puppies. We spend a lot of time loving and feeding and socializing our babies. Now we have to compete with someone charging $500.00 for a puppy and a few years down the road we will get a call from someone crying about how sick their dog is that they bought. Its hard times but its very sad when you pick up a newspaper and there are more dogs for sale than jobs in the classifieds

Originally Posted by txshopper73 (Post 2066716)

You are so right! Many people just want a yorkie. They don't care about backgrounds, genetics, etc. and when you can purchase an AKC pup for $400, the good, responsible breeders are SOL.

Summer time is not a great time to have pups. People are going on vacation, etc. I only breed once a year and I skip the summer pups. Just have too much going on.

Originally Posted by katelin (Post 2065712)

"I would just like to comment on a couple of things
#1 If you are a good breeder and have been doing this for 25 years, I would think you would hold your puppies till they were 3 months old anyways....a good breeder does that."

Not necessarily. My vet, who is excellent with Yorkies, recommends they go to their new homes at 8 weeks. That is when they start to bond to people and he believes they need to be in their new home, not with me and their mom. I personally keep them to 10 weeks, but I sure have their new parents visiting by 6-8 weeks if at all possible to help the bonding process.

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 2068259)

I think it's a case of simple economics. The economy has caused a decrease in demand and all of the pet owners that are breeding have increased the supply. When the supply exceeds the demand prices must fall to generate interest. I breed for my next show dog and for show money so with pup prices falling and travel expenses rising I'll just have to breed and show less in the future. My concern is that if Show breeders slow down production and pet owners continue to breed poor quality dogs than the yorkie will end up with even more health issues and no longer end up looking like yorkies. Education is the key when breeding and alot of pet owners don't feel the need for education. They love their pet and assume that all yorkies should be like theirs. Most have no knowledge of their dogs ancestory or the health history of the lines. Protecting the purity of this breed gets harder all of the time. Hopefully tighter finances will discourage pet owners from breeding pet quality dogs and will be good for our breed in the end.

Originally Posted by C C Kent (Post 2068337)

I share these hopes and concerns. If the market is slow and the pet quality breeders just keep producing puppies and reducing prices the breed will suffer, not to mention each individual puppy. I have relatively few buyers that come to me for their first yorkie. My typical buyer has already purchased a yorkie and it didn't turn out like they had hoped, now they are ready to pay a little more and do some research to get what they thought they were getting in the beginning.

Pure bred does not necessarily mean well bred. :cool:

Originally Posted by Nikis2 (Post 2063439)

Hi I have been breeding about 2 or 3 litters a year of my Champion Sired females and have always sold my babies within a few weeks of birth. This is the first time in over 25 years that I still have puppies which will be 3 months old. There are so many people out there selling puppies you don't no what you are getting anymore. They are treating these babies like livestock for goodness sake.

Originally Posted by C C Kent (Post 2068337)

Pure bred does not necessarily mean well bred. :cool:

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2063725)

i have heard that dogs LIVE IN THE MOMENT and do not grieve or miss their old owners after a few days.. maybe i am wrong..:) it could be that you are worried and passing that fear / anxiety to her.. i think they know how we feel, and they react to us.. she probably loves you so much
because you love her so much...... they are so dependent on us.. quite a responsibility..:)

Originally Posted by ckuz13 (Post 2068891)

Animals do grieve. I have worked with a lot of animals that had to be rehomed or some just taken care of temporarily..They bounce back quicker when placed in a loving home but they do remember previous owners. Long story short..i had rescued a cocker spaniel and had him for 2 yrs..he was so sweet and I was happy to have given him a loving home..Turned out the pet hospital I worked at had a client that end up telling us about a cocker spaniel he owned that was taken from his backyard..he was crushed..his kids were so upset and he said he had never given up looking for him...he showed us a pic and It was my Basil.. I had to do the right thing and reunite them. Basil, although happy with me was even more joyful when seeing his previous family..I still get emotional..sorry op..I just had to tell this story..good luck