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Olivier 06-17-2008 09:33 AM
You should change your dictionary , harrassing is not the meaning of asking a simple question .

katelin 06-17-2008 09:47 AM
The people who want to be educated can be. But there is always room for a difference of opinion, even after researching and studying. I personally don't have a problem with mixed breeds within limits. Not a Rotti/Shire certainly, but mixed small breeds are okay with me. There will always be pure bred Yorkies, and as long as the mixes are sold as mixes, there should be room for them too. Just because I wouldn't do it, doesn't mean it is a sin for someone else to do it.

And as I've said before "pound" puppies/dogs are just not for everyone. We all should have a choice. I would be more comfortable with the OP's actions if she hunted down the owner/breeder of the dogs in the pound and questioned them. Unless the seller is a puppy mill, or seriously endangering the lives of the mother/puppies, I think there should be a peaceful co-existence.

Of course this is just my opinion and I realize others may differ. PEACE!

bchgirl 06-17-2008 10:17 AM
The problem lies with the fact many breeders sell their puppies...without any regard to what happens should those puppies ever be bred...and the ones after those and the ones after that.

I personally do not like the phrase...designer dog and I owned ONE...pretty certain she was very rare and could never be duplicated...;)

Ines3185lyorkie 06-17-2008 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MindieRose (Post 2055111)
I dont agree with the language, and I didnt see the site, but if she is making sure that the dogs are going to good homes and makes sure they are staying out of shelters, then good for her. It isnt a crime to mix dogs. There are many people out there breeding only purebreds that dont take that much responsibility.
It's just that with her attitude, it wouldn't seem that she is going to be that concerned with an animal's welfare:eek:

Bizzymammabee 06-17-2008 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008 (Post 2054369)
OMGosh!!!!:eek: I was browsing (sp?) kijiji looking for yorkies as I often do and came upon someone selling "pomshires". As this is not an accident litter (she has her own website too) I emailed her and asked why she was breeding/selling mixed breed dogs as there are already many in the pound etc. This is the response I got back...

Listen a$$hole,
It's too bad that you have no life other than to harass people. All my pups were sold and I keep in close contact with each one. None have ever ended up in the pound!!! Why don't you do you and me a favor and F**K OFF

I can't believe some people. I am really hurt:(
Not saying her choice of language was correct but I can imagine her frustration. While I am not into the designer dogs there are plenty of folks out there that are and if she is ethical in the sense of correct care and testing then what can you do. I am sure that your not the only one that has contacted her and quite frankly although we don't find it to be the best thing to do she has the right to do it and not have someone question her choice or make a judgement call against her....jmo.

Woogie Man 06-17-2008 10:45 AM
While I'm no fan of mixing breeds, I do understand that every pure bred dog was at one time a 'mutt'. With any mix-breed, a group of breeders could get together and attempt to get a breed recognized if they could set a 'type'. One that comes to mind (and makes no sense to me) is the Silky Terrier. It's only been recognized for less than 50 years and resembles an off-standard Yorkie more than a distinct breed. It wouldn't surprise me if something such as a Morkie was recognized at some future time. Though there are some ridiculous mixes, some are quite good looking dogs and I personally withhold criticizing those who breed mixes. In my mind, the only 'pure bred' dog is the Wolf and everything else is a controlled derivative breed (mutt) from them. All this doesn't excuse the rudeness of the person that e-mailed you, but they've probably heard all the criticisms before. Maybe your e-mail was the straw that broke the camel's back. :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)

YorkieRose 06-17-2008 10:46 AM
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You are certainly free to express your opinion...I do it many times a day on YT...so I guess I am a harasser also...

bchgirl 06-17-2008 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2055273)
While I'm no fan of mixing breeds, I do understand that every pure bred dog was at one time a 'mutt'. With any mix-breed, a group of breeders could get together and attempt to get a breed recognized if they could set a 'type'. One that comes to mind (and makes no sense to me) is the Silky Terrier. It's only been recognized for less than 50 years and resembles an off-standard Yorkie more than a distinct breed. It wouldn't surprise me if something such as a Morkie was recognized at some future time. Though there are some ridiculous mixes, some are quite good looking dogs and I personally withhold criticizing those who breed mixes. In my mind, the only 'pure bred' dog is the Wolf and everything else is a controlled derivative breed (mutt) from them. All this doesn't excuse the rudeness of the person that e-mailed you, but they've probably heard all the criticisms before. Maybe your e-mail was the straw that broke the camel's back. :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)
That won't happen until AKC changes their rules for acceptance into their FSS program. Presently they will not admit any "breed" which is a combination of two breeds already recognized by AKC.

YORKIE_mom_2008 06-17-2008 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by silkysilke (Post 2055106)
I'm not taking anyones side..

And ofcourse a language like she wrote is NOT okay! :mad:

But if my 'mutt' (my sweet mixed breed baby) got a litter
and I wanted to sell them, I would be very sad to get a negative email...

We wouldn't have all these great breeds if humans had never mixed some of them
I didn't send her a negative email. And this was not just an accidental (sp?) breeding. This was a planned breeding and she plans on continuing. That is why I responded.

Bizzymammabee 06-17-2008 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008 (Post 2055344)
I didn't send her a negative email. And this was not just an accidental (sp?) breeding. This was a planned breeding and she plans on continuing. That is why I responded.
Your email wasn't negative but you questioned her right to breed her dogs and that put her back up. Designer dogs are a hot market now so greeders will capitalize. People are also very into the mixes because they feel they have something extra special so as long as the demand is there greeders will fill that supply need.

Marlee 06-17-2008 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 2055350)
Your email wasn't negative but you questioned her right to breed her dogs and that put her back up. Designer dogs are a hot market now so greeders will capitalize. People are also very into the mixes because they feel they have something extra special so as long as the demand is there greeders will fill that supply need.
I like that name, because it does in the end come down to money doesnt it!

missgin 06-17-2008 11:57 AM
Don't be offended by their ignorance. I always see postings about people who want a free Yorkie, or any breed because they can't "afford" one. IMO, if they can't afford the price for the puppy itself, how can they care for it during its lifetime? Eww.

Tammyh 06-17-2008 12:04 PM
Her language was foul and shows she has no class. She definetely could have handled your email better. That being said, she has a right to breed mix breeds as long as she's being a responsible breeder and taking good care of her dogs and puppies. I've seen it mentioned on several forums that if people want mixed breeds they could rescue a dog but the fact is, we all want what we want whether it's a purebred Yorkie, a Pomshire or a rescue dog. I personally won't go to the pound because of my past experiance with having a dog without seeing the mother's temperament. I will never again get a dog unless I can check out the mother. Before I got Bella I almost got a Yorkie/Maltese mix because of the price. But, I always wanted a Yorkie and knew I still would even if I got the mix pup so changed my mind and I'm so glad it did!

Woogie Man 06-17-2008 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2055284)
That won't happen until AKC changes their rules for acceptance into their FSS program. Presently they will not admit any "breed" which is a combination of two breeds already recognized by AKC.
Funny thing about the Silky is that the AKC recognized it in 1959. The Silky is a mix of an Australian Terrier and Yorkshire Terrier. The AKC recognized the Australian Terrier in 1960 so I guess they technically were within their FSS guidelines (by one year). :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)

bchgirl 06-17-2008 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 2055586)
Funny thing about the Silky is that the AKC recognized it in 1959. The Silky is a mix of an Australian Terrier and Yorkshire Terrier. The AKC recognized the Australian Terrier in 1960 so I guess they technically were within their FSS guidelines (by one year). :aimeeyork :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :animal-pa :)
I'd have to go look but the fss program isn't that old.

That's the first step in having a breed recognized.


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