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Stud Fee?? I have a 1 1/2 year old boy yorkie. I have a ad for him to be studded out. A lady called me and said she was interested. She said she would pay 500 or give pick of the litter. He is AKC, 3 lbs, and we live in houston. AKC yorkies run from 800 to about 1200 in Houston. Does this sound reasonable? Is 500 right? |
Yes and no on the fee. HI, I would say its a tough call. Have you shown the stud? Is he a CH or have points? Does he have CH as parents or GP's? Does he have any outstanding limitations/drawbacks you can see. Has he breed before, and if so the results? You need to decide how you want to handle this for yourself. Its always a gamble on the stud when accepting the pick of the litter as payment because; is the bitches owner honest, has the bitch breed befor, whats the bitches line? Also, there is several doggy-VD's you need to be worried about if mom is an active girl. ONE thing is have an IRON clad agreement, and you host the mating. Do to http://dianesyorkies.com/stud.htm and look at our agreement. Modify it as you need to to fit your situation. ONE THING, You CAN Accept the funds as ESCROW...to hold untill a viable pup is born and identified, then swap back the funds ($500) for the pup when its old enough. THIS allows you to have something "in your pocket" to assure your not going to be short changed, and you can sell the pup later. Lots of options huh? Good luck |
Stud Fee? Is this your boy's first time at stud? If so - a stud fee isn't usually charged to "prove" a stud. With a small stud, injuries can occur especially with a young stud. Are you experienced in handling this? If not I would recommend finding someone that is, you would not want him scared on his first time as this can discourage him. |
I have heard a lot of people say they never charge on the first time B/C of the male never being breed before, so You dont know if he can even make babies. I would charge and $500 sounds good to me . Or the pick of the litter , I would make sure every thing is in writing and signed, Make out a good contract.and make sure you have asked every thing that you need to know about their female. Be very carefull when breeding your male out, There is a lot they can catch Just like us humans, Dogs carrie infections and VD. I would also make sure that the owner of the Female has had her dog checked out. You dont want your babie catching any thing. I had a lady that wanted to use my male as a stud, We almost did it until she wanted to keep my male for a week or two. there was no way I was gonna let my Babie leave me that long. And Do you know the Breeder? |
JMO... I would never pay $500.00 stud fee for an unproven male . |
well, ive never done it before. However, i have a girl to and she in her second heat at this moment. He is very much interested. We are going to let the two of them mate. The lady has done this before but her usual stud has passed away. She has a girl that will go into heat in the next few months. She said that she will call me when the time comes. Hopefully by the time that she calls me, my girl will be showing signs of prenancy. I live across the street from the vet, so i will be bringing her in a few weeks for a check up. |
But MEMnGIRL is not paying she will be getting the $500, so if that person is willing to pay, what the heck.. How big is the bitch?? If she is big you might rather take the $500 and not the pick of the litter. What happens if there is only one surviving pup?? Is the bitch healthy?? These are things you need to look into .. Good luck |
yes, i will definatly remember to ask these questions. There is a high chance that i will take the money, especially if my girl has puppies. |
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Sorry , if I may offended you but I was replying to the ( what the heck , she will receive $500.oo ) . |
I live in Victoria and the going rate in my town is $500. I've studded my male out 3 times and have another potential person wanting to use him. The last time, Chester bred with a bitch that was almost 3 times his size. I had to assist in the breeding. Since this was a new person using him, I had her pay $250 up front and $250 will be due when I sign the papers for her to send to AKC. Pick of the litter is too high. I would never charge for that nor would I pay that. Good luck! |
i dont think that her girl is very big. She told me that my boy would be the perfect size that she is looking for. Still, when she calls again, I will be more specific on my questions. I want to do this right. |
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I havent bred him before but i am currently trying. And i dont know what CH and GP means. |
CH means Champion , GP is grandparents. I am sorry for this next bit and I don't mean to be insulting, but as a breeder who spent years researching bloodlines and every last thing I could find about the breed itself...before beginning, I am disturbed by the lack of information you seem to possess about what you are doing. Just because you have two unaltered dogs, doesn't mean you should be breeding them. Have you checked into the health history of the preceding generations? Are you familiar with genetically linked health problems like PSS, LCP, luxating patellas, etc...? Are these dogs shining examples of the standard that you are trying to reproduce , or are we just adding to the pet population? I am disturbed by so many posts, not neccesarily this one, that seem to be fostering the backyard breeder and quibbling over details like stud fees, when the BIG PICTURE gets overlooked. I am not trying to be mean or snobby, I just love yorkshires and admire the breed originators who made it ther lives work to produce excellent specimens as examples for us to carry on. jmo |
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well, sorry if i offend you, but if i would have wanted to know what u thought about me breeding, i would have asked you that. The lady that wants to stud my male knows what she is doing. She has done it before. I hope to learn from her. We all have to start somewhere, we all cant be PROFESSIONALS. So anyways, sorry for asking. I will be doing it anyway with or without your help. I thought this was a place to get advice not be criticized. |
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you can give me the facts. i appreciate them as you can tell in earlier posts. but you dont have to talk down to me and you dont even know me and assume my agenda. I care alot for the breed especially my dogs. They are my pride and joy. I will make sure that they taken care of and remain healthy. |
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Are you prepared for your male to change from mild mannerd Clark Kent into a walking Penisaurs. Many a male will have a big change in attitude once they are used for breeding. A male who is housebroken will now hike his leg on anything in the house. This same male may also fight with another male dog in the house. He may also drive any other female that you own crazy wanting to breed. Many a male dog has lost his home because he has been used for breeding - the owner can not tolerate the new bad aquired behavios of a stud dog or chooses after a period of time that it is simpler to just give the dog up and get another. We live in a throw a way society. Belly bands are a option for a male in the house who hikes his leg- but they must be worn all the time. |
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Having champions in a dog/bitch pedigree doesnt prove anything except the paper its printed on and the color red! I know of many champions and champion Kennels that had and have liver shunt, roach back, LP. |
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I will not assume how much you know about breeding. It could be that you just have difficulty expressing yourself in your question, so I am giving the benefit of a doubt on that point. I do have to say that I agree with Sylvan's posts and the input she has posted. I am at a loss as to who would allow anyone to prove their male on one of their females when there are so many unknowns in the equations. Maybe you know more about the history of your male and the unknown female than I am seeing, so I will not speak to your specific situation, but I will say that in my area there is not a responsible breeder who would use a male (or female) in a breeding program that they have worked very hard to develop and are now getting healthy, good temperment because of the knowledge the breeder spent much time researching and breeding away from so many of the problems that we are now seeing in Yorkies. If anyone feels they are being talked DOWN to...well, I will not finish that sentence. |
Well, u can assume that i dont know much about breeding. I dont. Nothing is set in stone. Im sure that when she calls, We will talk more about each others dogs and look over each others paper work and discuss the situation. I may not even do it. I am taking consideration for alot of the advice given. Sorry if i sound aggrevated, because i am. I asked for advice, not pompous... Well, I will not finish that sentence. |
It's me the pompous whatever again... Kimberly, I have a ton of respect for you, your posts are always thoughtful and informative. Your dogs are lovely and it's apparent how much work you put in to producing nice ones. You are correct that there are CH line dogs that have genetic problems also, but I do believe, and maybe it's naive of me, that more often than not a champion breeder will not knowingly reproduce a dog carrying these traits and really work hard to try to eliminate them. The questions asked about CH lines etc were asked by dianesyorkies and repeated by Sunkissed and never answered, so I asked again. I asked about the health history of her stud because I feel very strongly that this should be addressed by anyone wanting to breed. If you can tell me that you were unaware of what CH meant when you began breeding your dogs, I will just shut up. If it makes me the Breeding Police to be concerned when someone doesn't want to discuss anything other than 'how much $?' ...then just pin on my badge. |
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it was not meant with any disrespect, although yours and other posters request seemed more as a demand not a conversation. as I read through the thread again a question of stud pricing expanded to a lecture or inquest...to breed or not to breed! I must say Ive been guilty as well of giving this same lecture I am sure many times here but after reading my past comments I had to reflect, how would I have felt getting a lecture when I had merely asked a simple question, I imagined how I felt when I started, lost, lonely, scared to death but determined and prepared. many of us tend to assume when protential breeders ask questions (very basic ones at that) if we can stun them, make them think then perhaps we can desuade them from breeding their precious little gal or guy. funny thing is most are going to do what they want no matter what you or I say! You must give them the respect they are asking questions and seeking answers instead of running blind! IMHO |
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thank you...thats what we've been trying to say.i was unaware of such things as dog VD.these are our first pure breed dogs/house dogs.we want to do the best we can to make sure they stay healthy and happy,and they do.and as far as the health of the male..the male is ours and visits the vet so frequently they know him quite well...he is very healthy and happy.his papers do not show any sign of Ch's in his blood, but that doesnt mean everything if anything at all.both our male and female or just pets,a part of our family.the only reason we'r interested in breeding them is b/c our family and friends want puppys and b/c we keep hearing how cute everyone thinks our male is and that they would like to use him for studding.we just had a few questions so that we wouldnt go into this blindly and we could avoid any mistakes.we appreciate ur remarks,both good and bad...but we will breed them either way...if you want to help the breed,help us...dont just bust our balls....thank you. from mem and girls dad,chris |
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