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05-19-2008, 10:54 PM | #1 |
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| I thought that 4lbs was too small to breed? I look at my Gracie ... she is over 4lbs and I just think she is WAY too tiny to have babies...??? whats the usual "SAFE" (if there is such a thing?) weight to breed?
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05-19-2008, 11:29 PM | #2 |
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| I've always heard the female should be 5lbs or more. If you want tiny dogs the male can be like 2lbs. Anyone who is thinking of breeding should read up on it and if you are not a professional breeder you might think twice because it says that every breeder has lost a dog when they have given birth due to complications and you have to be prepared to lose a dog. I could never do it but I am glad that some people can or I would never have my dog!!
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05-20-2008, 02:28 AM | #3 |
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| Even a 6 - 7 pounds female can be at risk . I don't believe in using a 2 - 3 pounds male will give better chances to have smaller pups . |
05-20-2008, 06:46 AM | #5 |
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| size There is no magically safe weight...to me it is the frame that is the most important..I would not rule out a 4 pounder, but I have only bred a couple in 35 yrs. I like 5 to 7..8 does not scare me, 9 if the frame is very compact and they look 7...using a smaller male is not the key to smaller, safer delivered pups for mom..I have gotten many tinies out of 7 pound boys with 5 pound girls...the number of pups in the uterus at one time is more important..one pup from a 2 pound stud can be a small pony..and 4 from a 7 pounder can be just right. Last edited by YorkieRose; 05-20-2008 at 06:49 AM. |
05-20-2008, 06:52 AM | #6 |
Peeka Boo I See You! Donating Member | Personally i think it has to do with frame not weight. Daisy's mom was barely 4 lbs and she whelped 5 puppies with no problems. Peeka's mom was also 4 lbs and she is small and she had 5 puppies to with out complications. But i don't feel you should breed for super tiny dogs. I mean 4 lbs is pushing super high risk if you don't know what you are doing and even if you do know what your are doing it's dangerous. I would never condone breeding under 4 lbs nor would i ever buy a puppy that came from a mother under 4 lbs. JMO
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05-20-2008, 07:08 AM | #7 |
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| thanks for the input I was just curious seeing a lot of mommies only being 4 lbs I was just worried about the moms... but as I have seen they all seem to do VERY well... just looking at Gracie who is 4.4 lbs I was thinking MAN... I dont think I could EVER breed her because she just looks WAY to tiny to....but what do I know... thanks again
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05-20-2008, 07:10 AM | #8 |
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| I believe there is a thumb rule, someone will have to go into detail about it. Something about the pelvic area being wider than your thumb width.
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05-20-2008, 08:31 AM | #9 |
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| breeding BUT...for every good result from a 4 pounder, I can find 2 bad ones..the actual gestation and whelping can be the easy part for a small bitch..caring for a litter for 4 to 6 weeks is a serious drain on a 4 pound body...that is where alot problems come into play. |
05-20-2008, 09:00 AM | #10 |
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| Yorkies ...like so many of the other small breeds Have trouble carrying/whelping their puppies a lot of the times That's part of the reason that they are so expensive. Any time you breed your dog , you have to understand the RISKS For every good ending you read about.... You can find that many with sad results. I also have an under 3 lb male BUT he came from a 7 pound female and 6 lb male. So chances are if I ever bred him to a tiny 3-4 pound female she would be in trouble. Any time you breed any female you have to be prepared for the worst. Maybe even losing your mama. I hope this helps
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05-20-2008, 09:29 AM | #11 |
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| Question about Calcium for Experienced Breeders OOPS, sorry. I got post happy and posted this in the wrong place. Sorry!!! Last edited by ranant12; 05-20-2008 at 09:31 AM. Reason: Posted in wrong place!! |
05-20-2008, 09:39 AM | #12 |
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| I have heard people say that the smaller the male, the smaller the puppies....but this is not always the case. There is more than just the size of the father that determines the puppy's weight. My Huck's mom was 4lbs. and his dad is 2.11 and Huck, at 15 weeks is almost 3lbs and will probaby be closer to 5 full grown. Tammy |
05-20-2008, 11:27 AM | #13 |
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| All you have to do is look at the Yorkies on this site to realize that size is very difficult to breed for and to predict. I had a 6 lb. female bred to a 5 lb. male, and the smallest puppy in the litter grew to be 8 lbs. Yorkies are just an "endless variety" breed of dog.
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05-20-2008, 12:09 PM | #14 |
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| breeding It is perhaps as important or more important to look at the grandparents of a breeding potential...many genes have a tendancy to skip a generation...I see so many of puppies looking like a grandparent..that is why a 3 pound stud from 7 or 8 pound parents can sire large puppies with a small bitch..and of course the small bitch may be from a 10 pound dam.... |
05-21-2008, 07:09 AM | #15 |
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| Good point.
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