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NanaDtreasures 04-20-2008 02:51 PM
Two littlest not nursing well
 
They are just so tiny.
The one boy who had all the trouble last night is the weakest.
I get him latched on..and the other 2 tiny ones and he nurses for a bit then stops.

He only weighs 2.64 oz., He is not nursing well at all
And a couple others are 2.82 oz. and 2.72 better but still sluggish
The biggest is one is 4.19 oz.and
The rest are just a bit under or over 3 oz. they are all nursing well.
I want to make sure what and when I should start...
This little guy is my biggest concern right now..
And unlike Allies who have not cried at all really.
All Nalas are crying a LOT...they are nice and warm.She has milk.
Any ideas?

Jody Renfroe 04-20-2008 02:54 PM
I can't answer your questions Debbi, but I can pray for these little ones. Bill came home just a few minutes ago and I was so excited telling him about your new babies. Just wanted to let you know you are in my prayers. (Hugs)

lovelilly 04-20-2008 02:59 PM
I don't know a lot... but I got my little girls to nurse a little longer when I put the nutrical right on the nipple... they went right after it and it seemed to give them the energy they need to hold on a little bit longer... both my little girls are doing well now.

Good luck and lots of prayers coming your way!!!!

NanaDtreasures 04-20-2008 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jody Renfroe (Post 1932649)
I can't answer your questions Debbi, but I can pray for these little ones. Bill came home just a few minutes ago and I was so excited telling him about your new babies. Just wanted to let you know you are in my prayers. (Hugs)
Thanks Jody ((hugs))
They are just so tiny...would be sad to lose them

Breny 04-20-2008 03:02 PM
Debbi - have you tried nutridrops? I had a small one before and once I started him on nutridrops he had the strength to nurse on his own in a matter of hours.

NanaDtreasures 04-20-2008 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lovelilly (Post 1932663)
I don't know a lot... but I got my little girls to nurse a little longer when I put the nutrical right on the nipple... they went right after it and it seemed to give them the energy they need to hold on a little bit longer... both my little girls are doing well now.

Good luck and lots of prayers coming your way!!!!
How much is too much for a 2.64 oz puppy?
I will try a bit on the nipple. I can get him on..he just wont suckle but for a few seconds.. The other 2 real small ones atleast latch on for a couple minutes

Jody Renfroe 04-20-2008 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 1932664)
Thanks Jody ((hugs))
They are just so tiny...would be sad to lose them
I know. When they're just so tiny and helpless it's so hard to watch them have to struggle. I'm sorry. I certainly don't want you to lose them. I want to be able to watch them grow up. Try to keep your energy up, because I know you well enough to know you're going to do everything you can to save them. I'll be praying for you and the babies.

patty58 04-20-2008 03:07 PM
Prayers for you and your little ones Debbie.

NanaDtreasures 04-20-2008 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 1932668)
Debbi - have you tried nutridrops? I had a small one before and once I started him on nutridrops he had the strength to nurse on his own in a matter of hours.
I gave them all a drop this morning after they were born.
How much is safe.how often?...same with the nutra cal...for puppies this tiny?
He feels cold...I am trying to warm him up too.
I lost one at 4 days out of Daisys last litter this way.
It choked as I tried to bottlefeed it..so I dont want to do that too soon neither. But I dont want to wait to long

tiggerr36792 04-20-2008 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 1932670)
How much is too much for a 2.64 oz puppy?
I will try a bit on the nipple. I can get him on..he just wont suckle but for a few seconds.. The other 2 real small ones atleast latch on for a couple minutes
I recommend supplimenting the little ones 1 1/2 to 2 cc's every 3 hours till they have more strength to nurse on their own better. Feed them and check for full tummies you will get a feel for how much each one can eat.

tiggerr36792 04-20-2008 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 1932686)
I gave them all a drop this morning after they were born.
How much is safe.how often?...same with the nutra cal...for puppies this tiny?
He feels cold...I am trying to warm him up too.
I lost one at 4 days out of Daisys last litter this way.
It choked as I tried to bottlefeed it..so I dont want to do that too soon neither. But I dont want to wait to long
Make sure they are warm!! A cold puppy can't digest milk from momma. Nutridrops works well too!

Breny 04-20-2008 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 1932686)
I gave them all a drop this morning after they were born.
How much is safe.how often?...same with the nutra cal...for puppies this tiny?
He feels cold...I am trying to warm him up too.
I lost one at 4 days out of Daisys last litter this way.
It choked as I tried to bottlefeed it..so I dont want to do that too soon neither. But I dont want to wait to long
I gave mine 1 drop before each feeding but in a matter of a couple hours he was at full strength so I stopped. So I had given him "maybe" 2 drops.

Another trick that has worked for me is to put some of my own saliva on the nipple and they will latch right on, but if he is weak at this point, he most likely isn't going to have the strength until you get him going.

Make sure to warm him up before you try to feed him.

Gosh I hope this little guys pulls through and starts eating! I'm praying for you!!!!

NanaDtreasures 04-20-2008 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792 (Post 1932693)
Make sure they are warm!! A cold puppy can't digest milk from momma. Nutridrops works well too!
Ok..the two littlest took to the nutraCal right on the teat
and they are nursing good..and its been a couple minutes.
Thanks guys will keep you posted and I will start supplementing them .
But they are nursing..and I'm keeping the others warm and away for a bit
So they dont get knocked off

yorkiekist 04-20-2008 03:27 PM
Do you how to tube feed? If you can make it to the vet tomarrow, have them show you. It is much easier to get the nutrition into the babies that way and much faster than a bottle. Plus, you dont have to burp them. Its a little tricky at first, but you will definately know how much they are getting.
And dont give a chilled puppy food! Just some karo syrup and water.

Best of luck!

chattiesmom 04-20-2008 03:32 PM
I don't have any input, but I am praying for the wee little one. Dovie from Chizzie's last litter was tiny and weak. Dr. Any tube fed her once and then sent her home with a bottle of formula. After she took that bottle she had the strength and will to nurse on her own. I watched her like a hawk for those first few weeks. Good Luck!


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