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Two littlest not nursing well They are just so tiny. The one boy who had all the trouble last night is the weakest. I get him latched on..and the other 2 tiny ones and he nurses for a bit then stops. He only weighs 2.64 oz., He is not nursing well at all And a couple others are 2.82 oz. and 2.72 better but still sluggish The biggest is one is 4.19 oz.and The rest are just a bit under or over 3 oz. they are all nursing well. I want to make sure what and when I should start... This little guy is my biggest concern right now.. And unlike Allies who have not cried at all really. All Nalas are crying a LOT...they are nice and warm.She has milk. Any ideas? |
I can't answer your questions Debbi, but I can pray for these little ones. Bill came home just a few minutes ago and I was so excited telling him about your new babies. Just wanted to let you know you are in my prayers. (Hugs) |
I don't know a lot... but I got my little girls to nurse a little longer when I put the nutrical right on the nipple... they went right after it and it seemed to give them the energy they need to hold on a little bit longer... both my little girls are doing well now. Good luck and lots of prayers coming your way!!!! |
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They are just so tiny...would be sad to lose them |
Debbi - have you tried nutridrops? I had a small one before and once I started him on nutridrops he had the strength to nurse on his own in a matter of hours. |
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I will try a bit on the nipple. I can get him on..he just wont suckle but for a few seconds.. The other 2 real small ones atleast latch on for a couple minutes |
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Prayers for you and your little ones Debbie. |
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How much is safe.how often?...same with the nutra cal...for puppies this tiny? He feels cold...I am trying to warm him up too. I lost one at 4 days out of Daisys last litter this way. It choked as I tried to bottlefeed it..so I dont want to do that too soon neither. But I dont want to wait to long |
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Another trick that has worked for me is to put some of my own saliva on the nipple and they will latch right on, but if he is weak at this point, he most likely isn't going to have the strength until you get him going. Make sure to warm him up before you try to feed him. Gosh I hope this little guys pulls through and starts eating! I'm praying for you!!!! |
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and they are nursing good..and its been a couple minutes. Thanks guys will keep you posted and I will start supplementing them . But they are nursing..and I'm keeping the others warm and away for a bit So they dont get knocked off |
Do you how to tube feed? If you can make it to the vet tomarrow, have them show you. It is much easier to get the nutrition into the babies that way and much faster than a bottle. Plus, you dont have to burp them. Its a little tricky at first, but you will definately know how much they are getting. And dont give a chilled puppy food! Just some karo syrup and water. Best of luck! |
I don't have any input, but I am praying for the wee little one. Dovie from Chizzie's last litter was tiny and weak. Dr. Any tube fed her once and then sent her home with a bottle of formula. After she took that bottle she had the strength and will to nurse on her own. I watched her like a hawk for those first few weeks. Good Luck! |
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The one has a full tummy, The lil guy doesnt..so I am going to bottle-feed him now. I have successfully bottle-fed 2 runts from previous litters. Its just that after last time...and losing it,, I didnt want to start too soon. But I'm going to he's nice and warm now. Tubefeeding scares me,but the vet will teach me , he told me last time I was in if I needed it. Thanks all |
:hands::hands: Hugs & prayers to you and your babies that they will gain the strength to latch on and nurse to grow up healthy and strong.:hands::hands: I have now words of advice for you Debbi. I was fortunate to have smooth sailing with the one litter I have had so far. But I will be here with hugs & prayers and well wishes for you and the babies, as I read and learn what to do if and when I ever encounter similar problems. Good luck to you! |
Saying prayers for your little ones!!!!! Keep us updated!!! |
Prayer for all of them, especially the little guy! Sure hope he perks up soon! |
Reading this just *drove home*, like many other times, the pressures and incredible vulnerabilities of breeding. My heart goes out to you and your little ones. I wish there was someone, a mentor, with whom you could talk on the phone - it all sounds so scary - but you seem to be handling it very well. I'd be in a ball on the floor. I'm sending good thoughts your way! :) |
How are they tonight Deb any better.I had to work with mine also being so tiny and not much good nursing.THANKS Kim:D:D If you can get them a jump start they will be better and agressive nursers. I used the nutri drops one in the am and one in the evening,did you give some benebac also? |
Gosh I am just so grateful for all the knowledge here and all the people willing to help others! Thanks for being so awesome you Yorkie Talkers, you!! |
Puppies Got a lil bit down with a bottle then got them latched on to Nala Now to just make her quit worrying about the others But they knock these 2 wee ones right off. So I've been holding her down. so they can nurse longer and get stronger. Thanks guys..Hopefully we will get thru this |
Oh Debbi, I am praying for the little ones, especially the littlest guy...that's bringing back sad memories for me...:( Stay on top of it...make sure he's always warm and with a full tummy. Definitely get your vet to show you how to tube feed...it's a valuable thing to know! I am praying for him...keep us updated. |
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I'm working with them ...if these bigger stronger one would quit knocking them off. It was looking dehydrated ..and I got real worried It happened so quick. It is looking a bit better now and alot more active |
hey Debbi - what if you take the others and put them on a heating pad in a box and let the tiny have mom to himslef for a few, just till his belly is full, so he doesn't get knocked off? Can you try that? |
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I've never tube fed either but in our litter I've had to syringe fed (Tried every nipple I could find at every store around and on the internet and not one of them worked) so I syringe fed them all until they got strong enough to latch but I still had to rotate them & syrigne feed due to her having 6 and her milk was drying up. Our Vet gave us a little tiny syringe that worked good for us. Maybe if U don't have one then U can ask U're Vet for one. I got the Esbilac (The big powdered can at the Vets) and used it on all ours in our last litter and 1 in our previous litter, never lost a puppy one. I as U would be to scared to tube feed but would if I had to so not to loose one. I had a heating pad on the floor with baby blankies over it and one in my lap with baby blankies over it, (I sit on the floor with my knees up) I would wrap the baby in a preheated old cloth diaper (They are just the right size for newborn puppies) and then keep my hand over the heating pad that was laying on my knees/lap as to let the heat go through my hand and around the puppy while I was feeing it to help keep it warm. If any of that makes sense to U at all. I hope it does. My cousin in Ohio said to get the one with Goats milk it would help them more but I couldn't find it here where we live but I will make sure I get it before Sages' litter comes. Below is what I found on it that may help U. GME Goats Milk Formula Esbilac Formulated specially for dogs. Made with whole goat milk, this formula provides a protein, carbohydrate and fat calories base similar to a bitch's milk. Fortified with vitamins, minerals, and essential amino acids. Available in easy to mix powder or ready-to-use liquid If I was there close to U I'd gladly come help U feed, I love it and miss it so much. Good luck if U need something holler. U & U're dolls are in our thoughts and prayers. :) Lee |
Debbi, I can't think of anything that would help that you are not already doing. I know you won't get much sleep tonight but I will be praying for you and your little babies. |
can you get some one to show you how to tube feed... that is what I do.. then i know how much they are getting.. doing this every two hours will ensure they will survive if being tiny is the only problem they are having.. a vet will show you how.. I carry what I need with me at all times.. My gracie is here with us today as I tube fed her for two week night and day every two hours.. we started at midnight one night.. then went to bed.. set the clock for just before two and did this again.. if I can help in any way.. I will surely try... we woke at the 4 am feeding one morning and she was suckling.. so we just watched her after that.. but when i held her on the teat. she would only suckle for a minute and then wanted to sleep 4 hours.. she was dehydrating.. so this was to me the best way to keep her alive.. my vet did not think she would survive..... anne |
Debbi I wish you lived near me, we could get Lexie to take 2 of them, since she only has the one...I am praying for you girl, I know your exhausted, hang in there. :( |
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