Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1883346)

Though not aimed at improving the breed, per se, my breeding is not harming it. All I ask if for you to consider the possibility that good professional breeding, for profit, can ultimately improve the breed by cutting into the puppy mill market, which is truly deplorable and detrimental. You want respect for what you do, and I want the same.

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1885135)

I didn't know you were an exhibitor or breeder, MyFairLacy. How did your dog do at the show?

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1885153)

I have multiple reasons for not showing, among them that I have personally seen inferior dogs win.

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1883938)

Dudley, you're right somehow this got thread got off topic from betterment of the breed so I'm going to point out that getting your dogs out there and putting titles on them is how you know for sure that your dogs are worthy of to be in your breeding program....
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Blitz, I know this to be untrue. I have multiple reasons for not showing, among them that I have personally seen inferior dogs win. I believe it was in this thread I told about how I was advised by a big (real big, famous) exhibitor to dye my dog's hair. With the limited time I have available I can't afford to waste it playing those kinds of games. It has to be a very insecure exhibitor who can look at my pedigrees and call me a BYB.

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 1885202)

i want to know how we can stop puppy mills?:animal36

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1882982)

Anyway, I now breed show quality dogs to produce fabulous pets. After several years of losing tons of money at it, I stand to make a few dollars this year and don't like you show people trying to make me feel there is something wrong in this.

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1885153)

Hi Dudley. You don't play because the game is not always fair then? Geez, which sport is fair all the time? And as far as cheating... just look at the Patriots :) It happens in all sports.

I understand if you don't want to go through the time, effort and money it takes to prove your dogs but please don't make it like it's not worthy of your time. It's a seriously competitive sport.

A pedigree would never impress me unless the dog it belonged to was outstanding. I've seen junk with great pedigrees. Show me an awesome dog and THEN I want really want to see his pedigree.
Peace.

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1885462)

A pedigree would never impress me unless the dog it belonged to was outstanding. I've seen junk with great pedigrees. Show me an awesome dog and THEN I want really want to see his pedigree.

Originally Posted by SET Yorkies (Post 1873134)

I've posted this before, but I would like for you to read it as well. These are my thoughts on breeding... Breeding and working with dogs has been a blessing for me and my family. Sometimes I do well and make a profit sometimes I don't. We do a good deal of training and boarding Yorkies, so I am able to off set loss that way.. In the long run, I can say if I accounted for my time, not just expenses, I'm sure I am beyond the negative in profit.... That said, here's something to think about.....

Every breeder on this board started somewhere…. Let me tell you the story of our humble beginning as something to consider. I had an excellent mentor….. She was passing the torch of 25 years of knowledge and experience to me (how lucky was I?)…. My second litter was due being whelped by my most beautiful dog (not to mention that I was also attached to her as much as I was my children)…. Talk about a textbook pregnancy…. 42nd day ultrasound showed 6 very well proportioned, small puppies…. Delivery started…..no distress….easy labor on the first puppy… then nothing….and nothing… I was prepared…. I had read all of the books…. Not to fear, middle of the day, no emergency call…. We headed to the vet just to be sure (12 miles)….she died in my hands as I walked through the office door…. I called my mentor in horror and unbelievable grief….she said, “you’ll know in a few weeks if this is for you.” …. She said that because I had 6 very tiny puppies (5 saved through c/s) that needed to be nursed every two hours for weeks….I buried my Gizmo where our new kennel stands today and got started with her babies…..I would hardly close my eyes b/f it was time to feed again….two weeks into it, one just didn’t thrive….now I was at wit’s end….three days later one aspirated on the feeding tube….I was done, called my mentor and told her to come get them all… she said, “no, this was your choice”…. 20 or so weeks later of round the clock care, One by one, these tiny replicas of their mom, of whom I had become a surrogate mother, were picked up by new owners, placed under various Christmas trees….and absolutely delighted special families….One to 4 kids, one to a wife of 35 years, one to an only child, and one to new bride. To this day, I still grieve for my Gizmo, to this day I still check up on every puppy I sell… I’ve shoveled truck loads of poop, dried gallons of pee, built kennels, torn down kennels, delivered puppies at 2:00 am on every holiday celebrated by man (even my kids birthday parties which I had to miss)….Breeding is a complete sacrifice of everything else when the moment counts b/c your female is counting on you for everything….If you bring puppies into this world they are your responsibility and yours alone. My mentor made that quite clear to me. If you do not have the ability to deal with the difficulties with the same passion as you delight in the rewards, keep you little girls as a pets….. If you do have the ability, this could be the blooming of a wonderful new career…one that I love more with every pooper scooper full….

Originally Posted by fab1835 (Post 1885984)

Our 5 year old yorkie, Jingles died last month of a collapsed trachea. Is this from poor breeding? Mary Anne

Originally Posted by
What do you think would be a "right reason?" I breed because I love being around my Yorkies and I'm good at it. Why would it be wrong for me to make a[COLOR="Red"

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1882280)

You showy Types?!! Yorkiekist was just wondering why abuse wasn't reported if witnessed since you didn't inform us as to how it was handled. I didn't find her post to be arrogant at all. If you are looking for an enemy around every corner than it's probably best that you don't enter the show ring. You can find great friendly, helpful people there and you can find people who are guarded and won't put up with any bull. I enjoy showing and have made great friends. I find it to be extremely educating and challenging. I am the type that if I'm going to do something, I reach for excellence. I used to be a national competitior and educator when I first started doing nails. It was a way to learn from the very best and perfect my skills while meeting the top nail techs in the industry and getting my name out there. I didn't want to make mediocre nails, I wanted to make works of art. I worked hard and placed within the top 25 nail techs in the country on the national circuit. Showing dogs is along the same vein for me, I can learn from the veterns of the yorkie world, have access to excellent stock, and get my name out there. I'm proud to be a showy type I guess because I have found them to be passionate, driven individuals who love these dogs and have commited their lives to this persuit. For me it's a good team to be on!

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1885153)

Hi Dudley. You don't play because the game is not always fair then? Geez, which sport is fair all the time? And as far as cheating... just look at the Patriots :) It happens in all sports.
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As an extremely honest and fair-minded person, some of this stuff is too hard for me to be around. Why would you fault me for that?

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1885462)

I like to consider myself an extremely honest and fair minded person also but not weak. I don't fault you. You're right. If you can't take the heat, you better stay home.

Originally Posted by dudley1984 (Post 1887108)

Looks to me Dudley has been banned

Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1900432)

I have a gift...I can produce a quality Yorkie I am proud to show off...but it has drained every bit of energy from me at times, broken my heart, produced buckets of tears..so I advise anyone to do it to the best of their ability, ethcially, with pride, taking no short cuts, do what is best for the dog..the care and comfort of the dog always comes first...nothing is too good for a brood bitch.
When I see photo's and TV stories about puppymills, the faces of the bitches just about kill me...there has to be a special place in Hell for these heartless people...and all these dear dogs will surely have a peaceful after life...where ever the dogs go, I would like to go also...

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1903251)

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1903251)

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

Originally Posted by matilda99 (Post 1903204)

There's a very nice article on this very subject in the August 2007 issue of Dog World Magazine by Carolyn Coile, PhD. As many of you know, Dr. Coile is a well published authority on dogs, herself being a breeder and handler. Her opinion is that responsible breeders should be selling their puppies for enough to make a profit, and that it should not be considered a negative thing for them to do so. BTW, she acknowledges in the article that breeders do not necessarily have to be exhibitors to fall into the "responsible" category. They just have to be responsible in their breeding practices. She closes the article with "There is a place for responsible breeders of good, healthy, well-socialized pets, and there's no reason that breeders who produce these dogs should not be fairly, and even profitably, compensated for providing them. In the long run, such breeders could be our best tool in the fight against puppy mills."

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1903382)

I don't read the replies of certain people either, especially if they get sarcastic. Everyone is going to see things a bit differently and that's okay but you can disagree respectfully. Sarcasm gets my grain up because it comes off as hateful to me and there's just no reason to be hateful. I usually drop out if it gets nasty but if I do post I try to be careful with my wording. Sometimes it's hard cause you just want to slap someone for coming off so hatefully. I try to remember that it's harder to judge someone's true intent when you can't see their expressions or body language. As far as a profit goes, I have a llitter due the end of the month that will hopefully make me a profit. It won't last long though as I will sink it back into showing. Showing is for business but it also for my personal enjoyment so I don't feel too bad. I get to go out to dinner with my show friends so I get benefit from it all.

Originally Posted by blitz (Post 1903251)

She got banned for a week. I really did not see anything she said that was that bad unless they deleted it. She just voiced her opinion like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1903273)

I seen last week a member I liked left us :(
She always tried her best to be nice to everyone.
I dont even know her real name
Isnt that crazy how you can like someone...
And not even know there name sometimes on a forum?
It was hha...if Im not mistaken. and it said she was no longer a member.
So I'm taking it she quit.Not banned.
But if anyone still talks with her on here, please tell her for me
That she is missed

Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1903817)

I believe the member banned we are talking about is Dudley1984 and she was banned. I don't know anything about hha