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lee17 · 03-20-2008, 07:17 PM

Is this okay for the female yorkie to breed?? two pounds over is okay for her or not? and how long does a yorkie carry her babies? or pregantly?

Sunnie · 03-20-2008, 08:01 PM

since no one has answered I will try. Yes, you can breed a 7 lb male with a 5 lb female.. BUT I WOULDN'T! Not on purpose unless you have done lots of research on both the male and the female. Say the 7lb male is the RUNT of his litter and the 5 lkb female is from a very small mom and dad. You are running a big risk of mom needing a c-section.
Second, the pregnancy will be roughly 63 days from the last tie. BUT.. my advice would be to rethink the entire breeding process until you know these things inside out. You run a huge risk with your female as well as the litter if you do not do your homework. There is so much more than just putting two dogs together.. There is lots to learn about the genetics of each dog, lots of testing for hereditary problems in each dogs line... just so much more than anyone who has to ask just the basic questions you have to learn. I am not trying to be rude or hurtful, but really, you seem to have a lot to learn before you should consider breeding these two.
I hope you will stick around and read and learn a whole lot more before you breed. Good luck
and welcome to YT

bjh · 03-20-2008, 08:37 PM

I know many show breeders breed 7 lb males to smaller females. It is not as much about size as it is structure. A female has to have the right build to safely deliver puppies. Females that are too narrow in the rear end would have a harder time delivering pups. When I breed I alway count 61 days from the first breeding. I have had several females have pups on the 60th day and some go as long a 70 days from the 1st breeding, it all depends on when the female actually conceives. I think the majority of litters I have whelped are 63 to 65 days from the 1st breeding.

txshopper73 · 03-21-2008, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bjh

I know many show breeders breed 7 lb males to smaller females. It is not as much about size as it is structure. A female has to have the right build to safely deliver puppies. Females that are too narrow in the rear end would have a harder time delivering pups. When I breed I alway count 61 days from the first breeding. I have had several females have pups on the 60th day and some go as long a 70 days from the 1st breeding, it all depends on when the female actually conceives. I think the majority of litters I have whelped are 63 to 65 days from the 1st breeding.

You are right.

Also, I would look at the stud's parents, grandparents and even great...if it's possible. Could be that he was a throw-back.

I know of a 7 lb stud that produces small pups...a small males that produce large pups.

First and foremost, do your research of the lines.

tiggerr36792 · 03-21-2008, 06:08 AM

Looking at your previous thread I really want to say that before you jump into breeding these 2, you need to really do alot of research first. You run the risk of many complications if your not experienced at breeding and know your dogs lines. To answer your original question yes it can do done if done properly!

lee17 · 03-21-2008, 03:52 PM

Thank you everyone for the reply...I will be doing more researches on our yorkies...and we are wanting to to try just for one litter and then thats it. Thank you for the supporting answers.

lreed · 03-21-2008, 04:01 PM

A very experienced breeder of Yorkies told me she always tried to get the smallest stud she possibly could and used at least a five or six pound female. That way you have a very good chance of having Yorkies that will be smaller as adults and also the least risk for the female in delivering. I've also followed this rule and have had very good results.

Sunnie · 03-23-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lreed

A very experienced breeder of Yorkies told me she always tried to get the smallest stud she possibly could and used at least a five or six pound female. That way you have a very good chance of having Yorkies that will be smaller as adults and also the least risk for the female in delivering. I've also followed this rule and have had very good results.

a very true statement... but still things can go wrong. My 5 pound female was bred with a 3 lb male (the breeder was an experienced show breeder) She did very good with the delivery... whelped them effortlessly....She had 3 little males.... VERY little.... one died within minutes of birth. The other two died the next day... It was my first litter, my females first litter and the biggest one was just barely 2 ounces. Maybe they would have had a chance with a very experienced breeder, but even with my vets help, they were just too tiny. It was so heartbreaking to me.. She had a second litter with a bigger male and had 2 healthy puppies, BUT she had to have a c-section... so we had her spade. Yorkies are so delicate.. and even a 5 pound female doesn't mean they will be capable of breeding. It seems to me that it is a very delicate balancing act between too small and too big. She came from a line of free whelpers.. but that sure isn't a guarantee.

tammy8833 · 01-03-2011, 07:45 PM

i know this thread is old

i have a akc female i purchased for breeding/pet and she is right at 5.1bs at 9 months old and so very petite framed i dont believe she would be a good whelper...so she will probably be spayed soon...i like them stockier..my larger female does awesome..

YorkieRose · 01-04-2011, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tammy8833

i know this thread is old

i have a akc female i purchased for breeding/pet and she is right at 5.1bs at 9 months old and so very petite framed i dont believe she would be a good whelper...so she will probably be spayed soon...i like them stockier..my larger female does awesome..

Your bitch sounds fine to me at 9 mos...by her second or third heat, I would venture to say she will be a full 6 pounder...but weight is only one small factor I take into consideration when I breed a litter.

Priincess10 · 01-05-2011, 09:05 AM

How old are they when they go threw first heat , anf how many pounds can they be so they safely have babies without health issues. And can you spay them when they get a lil bit older or does it have to be a sertin age. And no I haven't thought of breeding her,im just getting information incase I want to het a litter before I ever spay her.

DvlshAngel985 · 01-05-2011, 09:28 AM

It's not like there is a magic number. Like if I were to say, if your little one reaches 12 lbs, she'll be ok. That's not how it works. You have to take into consideration her body structure, can she safely carry and whelp a litter? Does she come from a line of free whelpers? (mom, grandma, aunts and sisters, can they whelp on their own with little to no complications) Is she healthy? And no, a regular vet check is not enough to check for health. There are specific tests that must be done.
What kind of stud will you use? What does his family lines bring to the mix? Is there any incidence of any genetic diseases in both the dam and sires lines?

So you see, it isn't so easy if you want to do it right for her, her puppies, and future puppy parents of the pups.

jencar98 · 01-05-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Priincess10

How old are they when they go threw first heat , anf how many pounds can they be so they safely have babies without health issues. And can you spay them when they get a lil bit older or does it have to be a sertin age. And no I haven't thought of breeding her,im just getting information incase I want to het a litter before I ever spay her.

Typically a females comes into heat anywhere from about 8 months to 13 months. Your question about weight was answered above so I won't get into that.

You can spay at a later age but I wouldn't recommend it. Pyometra and mammary cancer risk are increased with intact females.

Please be good to her, do not breed her, love her for the pet she is♥

tammy8833 · 01-06-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Your bitch sounds fine to me at 9 mos...by her second or third heat, I would venture to say she will be a full 6 pounder...but weight is only one small factor I take into consideration when I breed a litter.

you really think so?..she has such a tiny frame..very skinny...i would love to bred her..she is absolutely beautiful..i could be basis ..but she is =)

i m thinking it would be a c section for sure..but i have never bred one with her frame before...my other two or thicker and sturdier

tammy8833 · 01-06-2011, 07:06 PM

not sure if the questions were for me or the op ..so here it goes just incase it was me

the female i have is AKC 5.1 at 9 months old..petitie frame..blue n gold mother is 5lbs she free whelped and c-sections her litters father is 3.5lbs, small line, and litter mates were smaller she was the largest mom black n gold dad blue n gold..sweet, playful demeanor..i call her double d..for dainty diva..very much a spoiled baby

the male i have is AKC 6.5lbs stocky, short cobby body black n gold beautiful full coat, sweet and calm demeanor, will talk to me =)..gives hugs to me he was the largest in his litter at pick up, (but i think it was fur..his sister was tiny and his brother had tiny long/skinny face features where Theodore has a shorter face..?? not sure the right wording his siblings are 3 and 4lbs..his dad is 4lbs his mom is 5.5lbs..mom blue n gold, dad black n gold

i do want to have them tested..havent yet..dad has had previous pups with a larger female

edited to ad:the male does throw small pups

03-20-2008, 07:17 PM	#1
lee17 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 12	female yorkie 5lbs vs. male 7lbs. Is this okay for the female yorkie to breed?? two pounds over is okay for her or not? and how long does a yorkie carry her babies? or pregantly?

03-20-2008, 08:01 PM	#2
Sunnie Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: So. California Posts: 4,057	since no one has answered I will try. Yes, you can breed a 7 lb male with a 5 lb female.. BUT I WOULDN'T! Not on purpose unless you have done lots of research on both the male and the female. Say the 7lb male is the RUNT of his litter and the 5 lkb female is from a very small mom and dad. You are running a big risk of mom needing a c-section. Second, the pregnancy will be roughly 63 days from the last tie. BUT.. my advice would be to rethink the entire breeding process until you know these things inside out. You run a huge risk with your female as well as the litter if you do not do your homework. There is so much more than just putting two dogs together.. There is lots to learn about the genetics of each dog, lots of testing for hereditary problems in each dogs line... just so much more than anyone who has to ask just the basic questions you have to learn. I am not trying to be rude or hurtful, but really, you seem to have a lot to learn before you should consider breeding these two. I hope you will stick around and read and learn a whole lot more before you breed. Good luck and welcome to YT __________________ Sonya, Owned by Ladybug, Tilly, Sunshine, Beamer, Rainbow, Sonny and Righteous RIP Sunnie (11/12/2003-7/31/2009)

03-21-2008, 03:52 PM	#6
lee17 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 12	Thanks! Thank you everyone for the reply...I will be doing more researches on our yorkies...and we are wanting to to try just for one litter and then thats it. Thank you for the supporting answers.

01-03-2011, 07:45 PM	#9
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	i know this thread is old i have a akc female i purchased for breeding/pet and she is right at 5.1bs at 9 months old and so very petite framed i dont believe she would be a good whelper...so she will probably be spayed soon...i like them stockier..my larger female does awesome.. __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P**

01-05-2011, 09:05 AM	#11
Priincess10 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Andrews texas Posts: 10	Quick question? How old are they when they go threw first heat , anf how many pounds can they be so they safely have babies without health issues. And can you spay them when they get a lil bit older or does it have to be a sertin age. And no I haven't thought of breeding her,im just getting information incase I want to het a litter before I ever spay her. __________________ -PrincessMommyy;;*

03-20-2008, 08:37 PM	#3
bjh Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 7,959	I know many show breeders breed 7 lb males to smaller females. It is not as much about size as it is structure. A female has to have the right build to safely deliver puppies. Females that are too narrow in the rear end would have a harder time delivering pups. When I breed I alway count 61 days from the first breeding. I have had several females have pups on the 60th day and some go as long a 70 days from the 1st breeding, it all depends on when the female actually conceives. I think the majority of litters I have whelped are 63 to 65 days from the 1st breeding.

03-21-2008, 06:08 AM	#5
tiggerr36792 BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 6,685 Blog Entries: 1	Looking at your previous thread I really want to say that before you jump into breeding these 2, you need to really do alot of research first. You run the risk of many complications if your not experienced at breeding and know your dogs lines. To answer your original question yes it can do done if done properly!

03-21-2008, 04:01 PM	#7
lreed YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 337	A very experienced breeder of Yorkies told me she always tried to get the smallest stud she possibly could and used at least a five or six pound female. That way you have a very good chance of having Yorkies that will be smaller as adults and also the least risk for the female in delivering. I've also followed this rule and have had very good results.

01-05-2011, 09:28 AM	#12
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	It's not like there is a magic number. Like if I were to say, if your little one reaches 12 lbs, she'll be ok. That's not how it works. You have to take into consideration her body structure, can she safely carry and whelp a litter? Does she come from a line of free whelpers? (mom, grandma, aunts and sisters, can they whelp on their own with little to no complications) Is she healthy? And no, a regular vet check is not enough to check for health. There are specific tests that must be done. What kind of stud will you use? What does his family lines bring to the mix? Is there any incidence of any genetic diseases in both the dam and sires lines? So you see, it isn't so easy if you want to do it right for her, her puppies, and future puppy parents of the pups. __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

01-06-2011, 07:06 PM	#15
tammy8833 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: VA Posts: 2,775	not sure if the questions were for me or the op ..so here it goes just incase it was me the female i have is AKC 5.1 at 9 months old..petitie frame..blue n gold mother is 5lbs she free whelped and c-sections her litters father is 3.5lbs, small line, and litter mates were smaller she was the largest mom black n gold dad blue n gold..sweet, playful demeanor..i call her double d..for dainty diva..very much a spoiled baby the male i have is AKC 6.5lbs stocky, short cobby body black n gold beautiful full coat, sweet and calm demeanor, will talk to me =)..gives hugs to me he was the largest in his litter at pick up, (but i think it was fur..his sister was tiny and his brother had tiny long/skinny face features where Theodore has a shorter face..?? not sure the right wording his siblings are 3 and 4lbs..his dad is 4lbs his mom is 5.5lbs..mom blue n gold, dad black n gold i do want to have them tested..havent yet..dad has had previous pups with a larger female edited to ad:the male does throw small pups __________________ Tammy YT Gallery Lil Girl Princess & Theodore *Gidget R.I.P** Last edited by tammy8833; 01-06-2011 at 07:07 PM.