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addicted 02-22-2008 03:32 PM
Hopefully, it's just false pregnancy. I'm glad you were careful once you found out she was in heat. Everyone makes mistakes. Please keep us posted.

BamaFan121s 02-22-2008 03:41 PM
I will keep fingers crossed that she's just fooling you and they never actually got together.

hha 02-22-2008 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by majic50 (Post 1791079)
She weighs 4 lbs 12 oz and Caesar weighs 3 lbs 7 oz. I thought of a false pregnancy and I sure hope that's what it is. The vet says to do a blood test. Will that determine the difference between a real pregnancy and a false pregnancy?

Yes I am going to get the puppy food this afternoon. It might have been a week after I saw the first blood when I figured out it was her. Like I said I wasn't expecting her to go into heat before April. As soon as I knew it was her I started putting diapers and onesies on her and wraps on him and didn't leave them alone if I could help it and then I put her in xpen. As often as I could I took Caesar with me if I went somewhere. Could she have been in heat before I saw the blood?
they can breed through an xpen..I have seen dogs breed through little fence holes before..:(

hha 02-22-2008 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by majic50 (Post 1791203)
That's just it, she bled the whole time! If I count from the 9th when I first saw the blood, she bled for at least 3 weeks straight! As soon as I realized that it was her that was bleeding I kept them both covered and penned her up when I when I left them both at home, which I seldom did. I took Caesar with me as much as I could.
this is from my old vets website..they usually only bleed the first week..


http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/Reproduction.html

MindieRose 02-22-2008 06:17 PM
Not that I would encourage anyone to breed that young ever, but I am sure wild dogs breed on their first heat since there is no one to keep them separated. Not saying that you should try to do that, but in nature it happens and it turns out ok, its just not ideal.
I imagine it would be very hard to keep them apart. I got very lucky with my Lola in that with her first heat cycle at 8 months old she would not let Joe anywhere near her. She would flat out snap at him for even trying. She ended up having a false pregnancy too. She felt like she was filling with milk, and stayed swollen down there for a long time. For awhile I was afraid that the snuck in a breeding, but they didnt. So you may have gotten lucky.

Its so hard to keep male dogs away when a girl is in heat. At least a big neighbor dog didnt break in your back yard and get to her!

Keep us posted! Babies are babies, and just like with people, an unplanned pregnancy still produces blessings!

Myzzbrat 02-22-2008 06:30 PM
I want to say that the YT'rs that have responded have been very kind and supportive on this particular thread and its heated topic. I am a believer that accidents do happen. All a part of life. My question would be if her pelvis isn't ready or strong enough for delivery would it be a C-section then? or would the vet advise a abortion? Just a question..

Susan123 02-22-2008 06:42 PM
No need to beat yourself up or let others. Accidents happen. If you didn't see them tie(I didn't see it posted), maybe it is a false pregnancy. Let us know. Good luck,
Susan

For My Coby 02-22-2008 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kathrynS (Post 1791356)
Wow, what a nice helpful thread. I hope everything turns out OK
Agreed considering it's after the fact. A lot to be learned here (which is why I will never attempt breeding). And also wishing the best. :)

bjh 02-22-2008 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Myzzbrat (Post 1791957)
I want to say that the YT'rs that have responded have been very kind and supportive on this particular thread and its heated topic. I am a believer that accidents do happen. All a part of life. My question would be if her pelvis isn't ready or strong enough for delivery would it be a C-section then? or would the vet advise a abortion? Just a question..
Over the years I know of a number of people that have had accidental 1st season breedings and in most of the cases the moms were able to deliver naturally. In breeding you never know what might happen even if you do everything by the book. I generally would not advise an abortion unless the health of the mother was at risk and that is a decision that would have to be made by the owner and the vet.

YorkieAunt 02-22-2008 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MindieRose (Post 1791899)
Not that I would encourage anyone to breed that young ever, but I am sure wild dogs breed on their first heat since there is no one to keep them separated. Not saying that you should try to do that, but in nature it happens and it turns out ok, its just not ideal.
I imagine it would be very hard to keep them apart. I got very lucky with my Lola in that with her first heat cycle at 8 months old she would not let Joe anywhere near her. She would flat out snap at him for even trying. She ended up having a false pregnancy too. She felt like she was filling with milk, and stayed swollen down there for a long time. For awhile I was afraid that the snuck in a breeding, but they didnt. So you may have gotten lucky.

Its so hard to keep male dogs away when a girl is in heat. At least a big neighbor dog didnt break in your back yard and get to her!

Keep us posted! Babies are babies, and just like with people, an unplanned pregnancy still produces blessings!
I agree!:thumbup:
Nice to see ALMOST everyone helping out instead of getting upset. This is a wonderful thread and I wish you all the best regardless of what happens

majic50 02-22-2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Myzzbrat (Post 1791957)
I want to say that the YT'rs that have responded have been very kind and supportive on this particular thread and its heated topic. I am a believer that accidents do happen. All a part of life. My question would be if her pelvis isn't ready or strong enough for delivery would it be a C-section then? or would the vet advise a abortion? Just a question..
The vet hasn't seen Ciara yet, but I talked to him when I had Lucy in to see him. He never even mentioned abortion. I didn't know that was even possible. He said that there was nothing to be done until she was far enough along to do an xray. The xray would show if her pelvis is large enough, in relation to the size of the puppies, for her to deliver them normally or if she should have a planned C-section. So I will take her in in a week or so for him to decide when to do the xray. He should be able to feel puppies by then, if there are any. She's on a high grade puppy food now. I will prepare for puppies and see what happens. That's all I know to do at this point.

majic50 02-22-2008 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 1792001)
No need to beat yourself up or let others. Accidents happen. If you didn't see them tie(I didn't see it posted), maybe it is a false pregnancy. Let us know. Good luck,
Susan
I hope it is a false pregnancy. thank you.

majic50 02-22-2008 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1791524)
this is from my old vets website..they usually only bleed the first week..


http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/Reproduction.html
Thank you for the link. It's very informative. I put it in my favorites, so that I can refer to it again.

I understood that they were supposed to only bleed for like maybe the first 10 days at most, but she kept right on bleeding. I was beginning to think it was going to go on forever. I was about ready to call the vet, when it stopped. I just figured there could be exceptions, like people.

majic50 02-22-2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bjh (Post 1792207)
Over the years I know of a number of people that have had accidental 1st season breedings and in most of the cases the moms were able to deliver naturally. In breeding you never know what might happen even if you do everything by the book. I generally would not advise an abortion unless the health of the mother was at risk and that is a decision that would have to be made by the owner and the vet.
Thank you. I agree with the abortion thing. I love Ciara and if her life were indangered by the pregnancy I would definitely talk to the vet about an abortion. Otherwise, I would worry that her having an abortion might be dangerous to her health,too. Maybe more dangerous than going to term???

Sethowner 02-22-2008 08:34 PM
I just want to say I am so happy with all the help YTer's are giving in this thread. :D :D


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