Do you breeders really make no money at all from breeding??

[Mya's_Mom]

Originally Posted by chloesmom2000

I am planning to buy a new puppy for me. (guess I'll share a little with my family too!) I am willing to spend $2,000 dollars or a little more from an excellent breeder. But, I would truly feel bad if they made no money at all from this. I know how much time, effort, love, vet visits etc. go into raising a litter. I know it is 24/7. I also know about having a passion for something, which is the kind of person I want to buy my puppy from. My guess is many of these breeders do make money, BUT it goes back into their dogs. For attending shows, taking care of their dogs, beds, toys, food, vet etc. I feel like breeders should have a passion for what they do........not see $$$ signs.

I have a passion for teaching.........for years I ran an in home preschool. By the time I paid for toys, puzzles, craft supplies, food, and wear and tear on my home, I made very little money. But, I was happy! It was what I wanted to do........it was a great "hobby" that I was good at and it paid for itself.

Sorry,,,,,,,,,just some rambling thoughts.

My dog Mya is pregnant now for the first time she is 3 years old. I was at the mall and walked past PJ's Pet Store the sign across the window read "tiny breeds" these so called 10 to 11 week old puppies were 2/3rds the size of my grown dog. They wanted $2300.00 for them plus tax; no papers and you had 24 hours to get your own vet check! Given that I can see why a breeder of a show dog would want much more. The demand is there. A LOT of expense goes in to getting a dog show ready.

If Mya had a tiny pup, I would charge more because I know her Sire produced a very healthy tiny ill guy. Both Mya and her Sire have health certificates and vet check reports. There is no history on each side from past generations having any defects but she was not registered. So her puppies will not have papers. If her pups are average size and adult weight works out to 5-6 lbs I will sell them for $1500.00 I have promised friends that they get first notice as well as family. The dogs that people are paying $2500. From the pet stores have no history on the dog. Looking at the puppies I would guess they would be 10lbs or more. One little guy had massive paws for a Yorkie.
I am not sure if I will ever breed Mya again as she had a tough time with morning sickness, I am cooking chicken and beef for her and she seems to have cravings...lol. She is only half way there and I don't like leaving her alone. A lot of time and effort and concern and vet checks, stud fee and special foods and vitamin zed drinks go in to play before the puppies even get here. I am now in search of a used playpen and yes a baby monitor. After all she is my baby. I am living of a disability pension and going through a nasty divorce so I have no shame in charging my friends and relatives for what will be a happy, healthy dog. BTW my wanting a 5-pound dog had to do with travel, my parents are old and live in Florida, I wanted a dog that would fit under the seat in front of me, and she does in her carry bag. I still think big Yorkies are lovely, I just don't believe in false advertising.

[BamaFan121s]

OK, I understand. No, you didn't say it was a "scam," those were my words. Because IMO, anyone who comes on YT with the sole purpose of making friends so they can jack up their prices, who fool people into thinking they are something they are not, is scamming, IMO. Scamming, being dishonest, however you want to describe it.

To sum up my take on it, the people who do make 'big bucks' are not altogether honest, with the dog's intentions in mind. To me, anyone who is breeding with profit as their main priority would fall into this category. And sounds to me like someone you described--who befriends people just to charge more $$ would fit in there.

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

OK, I understand. No, you didn't say it was a "scam," those were my words. Because IMO, anyone who comes on YT with the sole purpose of making friends so they can jack up their prices, who fool people into thinking they are something they are not, is scamming, IMO. Scamming, being dishonest, however you want to describe it.

To sum up my take on it, the people who do make 'big bucks' are not altogether honest, with the dog's intentions in mind. To me, anyone who is breeding with profit as their main priority would fall into this category. And sounds to me like someone you described--who befriends people just to charge more $$ would fit in there.

LOL.. sorry about that, I now understand what you ment about scam.

but no one will admit that they are here to 1. learn more and 2. get their kennel name/ breedings out. Well, they will admit they are her to educate and learn more but not about also getting their name out. And it just makes me mad to see so many people saying that this or that breeder is great when you can see that their dogs aren't the best looking and that they could have found a better dog with a different breeder. But it's so easy to just find a friendly breeder here and get their dog because of a few references then to go out and search a while.

[Brooklynn]

I would never sell a puppy in YT. I don't advertise here, paper, online well with the exception that my name is only on the AKC and YTCA website. I'm on my local yorkie club's breeder referral list and that's it.
I have only one litter a year and with all my dog show expenses and vet costs and all that goes with breeding and showing what's a profit or even breaking even?

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by Mya's_Mom

My dog Mya is pregnant now for the first time she is 3 years old. I was at the mall and walked past PJ's Pet Store the sign across the window read "tiny breeds" these so called 10 to 11 week old puppies were 2/3rds the size of my grown dog. They wanted $2300.00 for them plus tax; no papers and you had 24 hours to get your own vet check! Given that I can see why a breeder of a show dog would want much more. The demand is there. A LOT of expense goes in to getting a dog show ready.

If Mya had a tiny pup, I would charge more because I know her Sire produced a very healthy tiny ill guy. Both Mya and her Sire have health certificates and vet check reports. There is no history on each side from past generations having any defects but she was not registered. So her puppies will not have papers. If her pups are average size and adult weight works out to 5-6 lbs I will sell them for $1500.00 I have promised friends that they get first notice as well as family. The dogs that people are paying $2500. From the pet stores have no history on the dog. Looking at the puppies I would guess they would be 10lbs or more. One little guy had massive paws for a Yorkie.
I am not sure if I will ever breed Mya again as she had a tough time with morning sickness, I am cooking chicken and beef for her and she seems to have cravings...lol. She is only half way there and I don't like leaving her alone. A lot of time and effort and concern and vet checks, stud fee and special foods and vitamin zed drinks go in to play before the puppies even get here. I am now in search of a used playpen and yes a baby monitor. After all she is my baby. I am living of a disability pension and going through a nasty divorce so I have no shame in charging my friends and relatives for what will be a happy, healthy dog. BTW my wanting a 5-pound dog had to do with travel, my parents are old and live in Florida, I wanted a dog that would fit under the seat in front of me, and she does in her carry bag. I still think big Yorkies are lovely, I just don't believe in false advertising.

But if your puppies won't have any papers then how are you going to sell so high. Their will be no paper proof that they are pure.

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I would never sell a puppy in YT. I don't advertise here, paper, online well with the exception that my name is only on the AKC and YTCA website. I'm on my local yorkie club's breeder referral list and that's it.
I have only one litter a year and with all my dog show expenses and vet costs and all that goes with breeding and showing what's a profit or even breaking even?

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

LOL ... I wasn't talking about everyone. Just a select few that you know for a fact is making a profit, because of the things I descibe in my other post, like not having a job (how else are you living), posting pictures in the nursery and in the for sale section (NOT EVERYONE!.. but some).... But you know, getting their litter out so people can see them.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

LOL ... I wasn't talking about everyone. Just a select few that you know for a fact is making a profit, because of the things I descibe in my other post, like not having a job (how else are you living), posting pictures in the nursery and in the for sale section (NOT EVERYONE!.. but some).... But you know, getting their litter out so people can see them.

I know you weren't singling me out LOL! I used this as a point LOL....

Donna

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I know you weren't singling me out LOL! I used this as a point LOL....

Donna

I'm not trying to point anyone out. Just saying what many people know but won't say. LOL.. If anyone has something to say and share my views, they can tell me (PM) and I can post it were it's not offensive and is attacking a person. I like YT... But come on, If it wasn't for YT, so many 'ethical' breeders wouldn't be selling at the price they are now.

[love_me_cody]

I talk too much!....I like forums because it allows me to get my view across. If you knew me or talked to me, I'll keep quiet in person.

[mypreciouspups]

Interesting reading...

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

Interesting reading...

lol...

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Susan123

I hear ya,, many people do use YT to continually talk about their litters and point people towards them. It gets old to see them in every other post made by some or references to the nursery.

LOL...I know JUST what you mean! It is somewhat entertaining to see how many different ways ppl can come up with to find reason to talk abou their available pups.
I.e. Someone comments...I found a picture of Trixie when she was 6 months old and forgot how small she was... Then comes along someone w/, "It's hard to belive this litter I have will be that big...I can't believe they will be ready for their new homes in just 2 weeks! I just posted some new pics in the nursery."

Or someone, in conversations mentions that they might get a new dog in the summer and in comes, "I will have a litter available in the summer..."



Thank you Cpt. Obvious...lol.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by love_me_cody

I talk too much!....I like forums because it allows me

How on Earth did I read this statment and for a slit second interpret it as, "I talk too much. I'd like 4 marshmellows"

[love_me_cody]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

How on Earth did I read this statment and for a slit second interpret it as, "I talk too much. I'd like 4 marshmellows"

lmao... i have no idea

[alex_143]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

How on Earth did I read this statment and for a slit second interpret it as, "I talk too much. I'd like 4 marshmellows"

laughing my ass off hahahaa i want some too though so pass them over here lol