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alex_143 · 11-18-2007, 09:30 PM

I really want to breed coco she will be in heat again in another 8 months lol i know its a bit early to be thinking about this but i want to be prepared my aunt just got a yorkie he is a really good representation of the breed he was to small to show so they sold him to my auntie!!! he has a real nice top-line ears are perfect so is his head and face!!! i have a few pics of them together but there not that good lol its hard to snap pictures of them when there playing but yea what would be the first steps in preparing them for breeding? What genetics tests do they need? price? and can anyone help me with making a contract for selling the pups??? And i know this is a dumb question i always ask lol when she comes into heat she bleeds is that when they should be put together and tie or is it the days after when she is still swollen but not bleeding???

yorkiekist · 11-18-2007, 09:43 PM

I would have both male and female checked by the vet and screened for liver shunts, legg perthes, and patella luxation. Do you know of any background health problems in the pedigrees? How are the bites? Does the male have both testicles? Are they both good representatives of the breed? Do you know anything about both pedigrees? Silk coat, black coat, soft coat? What size dogs are in the background? Just because the male is tiny, doesnt mean his puppies will be. Are you prepared for this undertaking including an emergency c-section? Any particular reason why you want to breed? These are just some of the questions I would answer before I got into contracts and prices. Good luck!!!!

alex_143 · 11-18-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

I would have both male and female checked by the vet and screened for liver shunts, legg perthes, and patella luxation. Do you know of any background health problems in the pedigrees? How are the bites? Does the male have both testicles? Are they both good representatives of the breed? Do you know anything about both pedigrees? Silk coat, black coat, soft coat? What size dogs are in the background? Just because the male is tiny, doesnt mean his puppies will be. Are you prepared for this undertaking including an emergency c-section? Any particular reason why you want to breed? These are just some of the questions I would answer before I got into contracts and prices. Good luck!!!!

I dont know of any background health problems in the pedigree my aunt is going to be sending me a copy of it and i will post it. They both have good scissor bites. Yes he has both testicles. He is a perfect representation of the breed coco i have been told by some of the members on here had to big of a snout. Coco has a silk coat and so does louis. Black coat? he comes from 3-5 pound dogs in his background and coco is 6-7 pounds im still getting info on my coco's background from the breeder. I am a prepared for any emergency that she might have or need. I want to improve coco's line and provide good quality health pups to people who are looking for yorkies in california since some out here are very over priced alot of ppl tend to just go buy the cheapest one and that sometimes mean sick pups that are out of standard i also want to educate ppl of the yorkshire terrier breed.

yorkiekist · 11-18-2007, 10:48 PM

sounds like you are on the right track and will be very sucessful!!!! I love it when people take the time to do the research. Best of luck!!! Keep us posted!!

alex_143 · 11-18-2007, 11:18 PM

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alex_143 · 11-18-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

sounds like you are on the right track and will be very sucessful!!!! I love it when people take the time to do the research. Best of luck!!! Keep us posted!!

Thanks i dont like to jump into things so im trying to get everything ready now!!!

SladesMommy · 11-19-2007, 06:28 AM

Considering the problems you've had with Cocos' breeder and the fact that you aren't 100% sure of where she came from I would not do it. There could be genetic defaults in Cocos line that you do not know about.

alex_143 · 11-19-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SladesMommy

Considering the problems you've had with Cocos' breeder and the fact that you aren't 100% sure of where she came from I would not do it. There could be genetic defaults in Cocos line that you do not know about.

Isnt there testing for that im not sure is there is??? But as far as her background im going to do the Wisdom Panel test where they see if you are a purebreed and if not then what other breeds you have in you i truly think coco is a purebreed. Oh and also If coco were to have puppies all of them would be spayed and nutered before being sold/adopted out!!!

Ellie May · 11-19-2007, 12:58 PM

I would really think about this somemore before attempting to breed. I believe you would be an excellent breeder because you are doing your research. I don't think Coco would be a good candidate for breeding though. You can always do the Wisdon Panel and that is great but that only shows if she is a full Yorkie or not. It says nothing about her great great great grandparents. You would have no idea if liver shunt has been in her line (it could be up to 10 generations back) or LP. How will you know if she came from a line of free whelpers? Maybe you could just keep Coco as a pet and get another one to breed?

Yorkiekids · 11-19-2007, 01:12 PM

The days after when shes swollen.

alex_143 · 11-19-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

I would really think about this somemore before attempting to breed. I believe you would be an excellent breeder because you are doing your research. I don't think Coco would be a good candidate for breeding though. You can always do the Wisdon Panel and that is great but that only shows if she is a full Yorkie or not. It says nothing about her great great great grandparents. You would have no idea if liver shunt has been in her line (it could be up to 10 generations back) or LP. How will you know if she came from a line of free whelpers? Maybe you could just keep Coco as a pet and get another one to breed?

Thats why im trying to find out everything now if the wisdon panel comes out saying she is not purebreed i will not breed if i dont get her pedigree and her background in the next few months i will not breed her i wouldnt want to take the risk.

alex_143 · 11-19-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiekids

The days after when shes swollen.

okay then i was right i just wanted to make sure thanks sooo much lol

love_me_cody · 11-19-2007, 08:41 PM

Hey, Alex! I would not breed her if I were you. I would find another female that meets the standard more and is a better representation of the breed. Coco is your baby and you should let her stay that way. I can even help you find a female if you want. after a year of looking around and learning about breeding you kind of find hundreds of places, some good but you want the best! pm me and i can suggest places/things... But if you go along with it, I can help out at the least by letting you know that yorkiegetthesmiles (sp?) has a whelping video up for grabs. You can see what happens..

mistystradtner · 11-19-2007, 09:45 PM

I put mine together on days 7-9 after bleeding starts, while she is still bleeding. I have had great success with this. She will also flag very strong on these days, showing you her readiness.

Like everyone else, I caution you on breeding her. Not because she is purebred or all that other stuff, but because you love her and bad things can happen to girls when they are pregnant and during birth.

Also, whelping and caring for pups is not just her job, it's yours. If you work, it will be hard. I have my own business and can take off the first week or two and then take babies in with me. You may also be up a lot at night. My girl doesn't like to sleep with the pups all night, so I have to put a very low heating pad under the box to help the pups stay warm. This can mean getting up every couple hours to check on them, let mom nurse, and reset the heating pad. Raising babies is a lot more work than you might think.

Do lots of reading and preparing and know that pups are a LOT of work to do right. Good luck to you and coco.

alex_143 · 11-19-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mistystradtner

I put mine together on days 7-9 after bleeding starts, while she is still bleeding. I have had great success with this. She will also flag very strong on these days, showing you her readiness.

Like everyone else, I caution you on breeding her. Not because she is purebred or all that other stuff, but because you love her and bad things can happen to girls when they are pregnant and during birth.

Also, whelping and caring for pups is not just her job, it's yours. If you work, it will be hard. I have my own business and can take off the first week or two and then take babies in with me. You may also be up a lot at night. My girl doesn't like to sleep with the pups all night, so I have to put a very low heating pad under the box to help the pups stay warm. This can mean getting up every couple hours to check on them, let mom nurse, and reset the heating pad. Raising babies is a lot more work than you might think.

Do lots of reading and preparing and know that pups are a LOT of work to do right. Good luck to you and coco.

thank you for your post im taking a lot of things into consideration and a job is one of them i dont work and havent been employed for the past 6 months instead im going to start school to be a veterinarian

If for some reason i do get a job 7 months from now when coco is in heat i probably wont breed her because i wouldnt have the time

but if i stay unemployed like this then yes i would have all the time in the world lol cause i dont do anything all day or night lol

i am also thinking about all the risks involved

11-18-2007, 09:30 PM	#1
alex_143 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,041	Breeding Coco.... I really want to breed coco she will be in heat again in another 8 months lol i know its a bit early to be thinking about this but i want to be prepared my aunt just got a yorkie he is a really good representation of the breed he was to small to show so they sold him to my auntie!!! he has a real nice top-line ears are perfect so is his head and face!!! i have a few pics of them together but there not that good lol its hard to snap pictures of them when there playing but yea what would be the first steps in preparing them for breeding? What genetics tests do they need? price? and can anyone help me with making a contract for selling the pups??? And i know this is a dumb question i always ask lol when she comes into heat she bleeds is that when they should be put together and tie or is it the days after when she is still swollen but not bleeding???

11-19-2007, 06:28 AM	#7
SladesMommy Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATX Posts: 4,513	Considering the problems you've had with Cocos' breeder and the fact that you aren't 100% sure of where she came from I would not do it. There could be genetic defaults in Cocos line that you do not know about. __________________ GIGANTIC DOG CLOTHES SALE!!! <--- CLlCK!

11-19-2007, 12:58 PM	#9
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I would really think about this somemore before attempting to breed. I believe you would be an excellent breeder because you are doing your research. I don't think Coco would be a good candidate for breeding though. You can always do the Wisdon Panel and that is great but that only shows if she is a full Yorkie or not. It says nothing about her great great great grandparents. You would have no idea if liver shunt has been in her line (it could be up to 10 generations back) or LP. How will you know if she came from a line of free whelpers? Maybe you could just keep Coco as a pet and get another one to breed? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

11-19-2007, 01:12 PM	#10
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	The days after when shes swollen. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

11-19-2007, 09:45 PM	#14
mistystradtner Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: indiana Posts: 39	I put mine together on days 7-9 after bleeding starts, while she is still bleeding. I have had great success with this. She will also flag very strong on these days, showing you her readiness. Like everyone else, I caution you on breeding her. Not because she is purebred or all that other stuff, but because you love her and bad things can happen to girls when they are pregnant and during birth. Also, whelping and caring for pups is not just her job, it's yours. If you work, it will be hard. I have my own business and can take off the first week or two and then take babies in with me. You may also be up a lot at night. My girl doesn't like to sleep with the pups all night, so I have to put a very low heating pad under the box to help the pups stay warm. This can mean getting up every couple hours to check on them, let mom nurse, and reset the heating pad. Raising babies is a lot more work than you might think. Do lots of reading and preparing and know that pups are a LOT of work to do right. Good luck to you and coco. __________________ Derek, Zoe, and Edward's mom

11-18-2007, 09:43 PM	#2
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	I would have both male and female checked by the vet and screened for liver shunts, legg perthes, and patella luxation. Do you know of any background health problems in the pedigrees? How are the bites? Does the male have both testicles? Are they both good representatives of the breed? Do you know anything about both pedigrees? Silk coat, black coat, soft coat? What size dogs are in the background? Just because the male is tiny, doesnt mean his puppies will be. Are you prepared for this undertaking including an emergency c-section? Any particular reason why you want to breed? These are just some of the questions I would answer before I got into contracts and prices. Good luck!!!!

11-18-2007, 10:48 PM	#4
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	sounds like you are on the right track and will be very sucessful!!!! I love it when people take the time to do the research. Best of luck!!! Keep us posted!!

11-18-2007, 11:18 PM	#5
alex_143 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,041	Bump Bump Bump

11-19-2007, 08:41 PM	#13
love_me_cody YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,747 Blog Entries: 2	Hey, Alex! I would not breed her if I were you. I would find another female that meets the standard more and is a better representation of the breed. Coco is your baby and you should let her stay that way. I can even help you find a female if you want. after a year of looking around and learning about breeding you kind of find hundreds of places, some good but you want the best! pm me and i can suggest places/things... But if you go along with it, I can help out at the least by letting you know that yorkiegetthesmiles (sp?) has a whelping video up for grabs. You can see what happens..