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migualla · 03-08-2006, 07:32 AM

Hello all, I havent posted in a while due to computer problems. That is the least of my worries though! Last Friday March 3rd we were out in the yard and Shelbie was attacked by a fox that had gotten over our 6 foot privacy fence. We have a wood pile on the outside of the fence and we think it went over there. We were right there and we couldnt get to her fast enough. I rushed her to the Vet and she passed away there. We are devastated and sickened by this and I still cannot get the image out of my mind. Some of you may not agree with this but Hubby killed the fox! We took it with us to the Vet incase he wanted to send it off for rabies tests. He didnt send it off he said that Foxes are known to be predators like this.

Well as you all know Shelbie has delivered puppies on Feb 10th. The puppies are not yet a month old and the Vet gave me milk replacer. Well I have set and cried at every feeding. This is sooo frustrating. I have bought ever nipple known to man and have finally found one that works pretty well. My question is what kind of puppy mush can I make for them? The Vet wasnt worth a darn at helping me there. They are fat and looking good but they dont have any teeth yet that I can feel. They are pooping and peeing on their own without any help from me Yeah! I have been taking what is left over in their bottles and putting it in a bowl and offering it but they just fall in it or dunk their whole head in and about choke. They went to the Vet yesterday and he said they look really good and to not worry so much but it's really hard not to.

Any and all advise is greatly appreciated!!

Migualla

red98vett · 03-08-2006, 07:40 AM

OH NO ! I'm so so sorry ! That's awfully scary - that fox climbed a 6 foot fence ? Oh man - that's so tragic and you have my condolences.....

There are breeders here that will be able to help you and you have my prayers you can feed those poor babies...that's so sad their mommy is gone...bless her heart...

I think I'd have do the same thing to that fox ...that's just awful.

kristyrae77 · 03-08-2006, 07:41 AM

Sorry I am of no help

but I just wanted to say how very sorry I am that you lost your baby!! I was so sad reading this post!!

sondra2004 · 03-08-2006, 07:54 AM

Im so sorry for your loss.I can feel your helplessness from your post!Please post this in the Breeder section.Im sure someone there can help you.Sending prayers and Good thoughts your way.Please keep us posted.

yorkiepip · 03-08-2006, 08:12 AM

I am so sorry,

i would have killed the fox too

livingdustmops · 03-08-2006, 08:15 AM

I am so sorry, how painful for you and your husband.

This thread might help you and there probably are more if you use the Search button on YT and type in puppy mush.

Your puppy gruel recipes

mustangbee · 03-08-2006, 08:19 AM

So soory for your loss.
We will keep you and your furbabies in our Thoughts & Prayers.
I would link this over to the Breeder section, I'm sure someone
can help you there. Hang in there!!!! Best of luck to you.

Gingergirlsmom · 03-08-2006, 08:23 AM

I'm so sorry! (and yes, I would have killed the fox)

I know nothing about feeding puppies, but we'll keep you in our prayers. Please let us know how things are turning out.

whispersmom2 · 03-08-2006, 08:54 AM

OMG, I cannot imagine your sorrow. I will pray that your heart starts healing soon.
As for your babies-they are past the age where they need to be bottle fed. They can be started on gruel or mush or whatever some want to call it. Here is what I do--I use Royal Canine Baby kibble (it is new and I used the puppy food before that)..I put it in a plastic bag and beat it with a hammer to make a really coarse meal. I use Pedigree canned lamb and rice puppy food, a little formula and some yogurt or cottage cheese. Make the mixture soupy and make sure you feed them with really warm food. Start by sticking the tip of your finger in the food and then into their mouth. They will soon learn to eat from a baby spoon OR set the flat plate of food on something that will raise it about an inch off the floor. They do less walking thru it that way and can eat it easier. I stick the plate on the chin of each baby and let them get the smell of the food. IF they are not eating as much as you think, and BTW, they might eat only a teaspoon 3-4 times a day, add some NurtiStat to the mix. You can make the mixture thin enough to syringe feed them if needed..
If you would like to chat let me know and I will PM my phone number to you....I hope this has been of help to you but I will be willing to help any other way I can...give those fat tummies little respberries from Rini's cuties...

pebblesmama · 03-08-2006, 08:54 AM

Get some puppy dog food and add warm water to it. It will soften it and the puppies are old enough to eat it now. You may also want to add the milk replacer to it. They love it if you warm it up a little. Good luck and good job on killing the fox.

migualla · 03-08-2006, 09:10 AM

I want to thank you all for posting! I have also posted this in the breeders forum. Rini, Please pm me your phone if you dont mind. You dont know how much that means to me. Everyone here is so nice and helpful. I am sure my husband will appreciate you all also. He is so sick of me sitting in the middle of the floor crying while feeding these babies. He is understanding but seriously I feel so alone with them. I am so scared to give them mush due to the fact there is NO teeth in there. I understand making it soft but are they really able to swallow it? I am a registered nurse but give me sick people any day! These puppies are so helpless. I have not left the house with the exception of Fri afternoon with Shelbie at the Vet and then again yesterday with them to the Vet. Again, THANK YOU all for the advise so far and I am hoping there is more to come!!
Migualla

heather_lathrop · 03-08-2006, 09:50 AM

Oh my gosh! I am so sorry! I can't imagine the pain you are going through! Bless your heart! I don't have any puppy advise for you, but I want you to know you and the pups are in my prayers! I would have killed the fox too!

feminvstr · 03-08-2006, 10:15 AM

OH MY GOD!! I am so sorry for your loss this is all too sad.....

youre in great hands with Whispersmom...your puppies are old enough to begin eating on their own as she said...watching them eat will bring huge smiles and wonderment you so desperately need right now...

All the best to you and those sweet little puppies

smmrpm · 03-08-2006, 10:46 AM

You got great advice from whispersmom!!

I only wanted to tell you how sorry I am - I can't even imagine what you went through and wish you all the best!!

I hope and pray things continue to go smoothly with your babies!!

Lexi Rae · 03-08-2006, 10:56 AM

so so sorry for you loss, i feel terrible... and im sorrry im at a loss for words.
so sad

03-08-2006, 07:32 AM	#1
migualla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 27	Orphaned puppies PLEASE HELP Hello all, I havent posted in a while due to computer problems. That is the least of my worries though! Last Friday March 3rd we were out in the yard and Shelbie was attacked by a fox that had gotten over our 6 foot privacy fence. We have a wood pile on the outside of the fence and we think it went over there. We were right there and we couldnt get to her fast enough. I rushed her to the Vet and she passed away there. We are devastated and sickened by this and I still cannot get the image out of my mind. Some of you may not agree with this but Hubby killed the fox! We took it with us to the Vet incase he wanted to send it off for rabies tests. He didnt send it off he said that Foxes are known to be predators like this. Well as you all know Shelbie has delivered puppies on Feb 10th. The puppies are not yet a month old and the Vet gave me milk replacer. Well I have set and cried at every feeding. This is sooo frustrating. I have bought ever nipple known to man and have finally found one that works pretty well. My question is what kind of puppy mush can I make for them? The Vet wasnt worth a darn at helping me there. They are fat and looking good but they dont have any teeth yet that I can feel. They are pooping and peeing on their own without any help from me Yeah! I have been taking what is left over in their bottles and putting it in a bowl and offering it but they just fall in it or dunk their whole head in and about choke. They went to the Vet yesterday and he said they look really good and to not worry so much but it's really hard not to. Any and all advise is greatly appreciated!! Migualla

03-08-2006, 07:40 AM	#2
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 30,463	OH NO ! I'm so so sorry ! That's awfully scary - that fox climbed a 6 foot fence ? Oh man - that's so tragic and you have my condolences..... There are breeders here that will be able to help you and you have my prayers you can feed those poor babies...that's so sad their mommy is gone...bless her heart... I think I'd have do the same thing to that fox ...that's just awful. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri.. AKA Spy-Girls (photos here) Click for LABELS Click for CARDS * SAY NO to PET STORES ! www.designsbyvillette.com USING YOUR PHOTOS !

03-08-2006, 07:41 AM	#3
kristyrae77 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 224	Sorry I am of no help but I just wanted to say how very sorry I am that you lost your baby!! I was so sad reading this post!! __________________ Seary Love-My Butterfly baby You will be missed always!! ~May 22, 2005

03-08-2006, 07:54 AM	#4
sondra2004 Mommy's Love Bugs Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Northern Virginia! Posts: 1,592	puppies Im so sorry for your loss.I can feel your helplessness from your post!Please post this in the Breeder section.Im sure someone there can help you.Sending prayers and Good thoughts your way.Please keep us posted.

03-08-2006, 08:12 AM	#5
yorkiepip Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brittany France Posts: 2,420	I am so sorry, i would have killed the fox too __________________ Anne, Pippa, Jake Woody

03-08-2006, 08:15 AM	#6
livingdustmops Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,810	I am so sorry, how painful for you and your husband. This thread might help you and there probably are more if you use the Search button on YT and type in puppy mush. Your puppy gruel recipes __________________ Cindy & The Rescue Gang Why do you think they call them Yorkshire Terrors!

03-08-2006, 08:19 AM	#7
mustangbee Donating YT 9000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Posts: 10,288	So soory for your loss. We will keep you and your furbabies in our Thoughts & Prayers. I would link this over to the Breeder section, I'm sure someone can help you there. Hang in there!!!! Best of luck to you. __________________ Friends are God's way of apologizing for our relatives. "Love & Support Our YT Members" Gina & Princess Member of the SSLS

03-08-2006, 08:23 AM	#8
Gingergirlsmom and Bernie's mom too!" Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,333	I'm so sorry! (and yes, I would have killed the fox) I know nothing about feeding puppies, but we'll keep you in our prayers. Please let us know how things are turning out.

03-08-2006, 08:54 AM	#9
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	OMG, I cannot imagine your sorrow. I will pray that your heart starts healing soon. As for your babies-they are past the age where they need to be bottle fed. They can be started on gruel or mush or whatever some want to call it. Here is what I do--I use Royal Canine Baby kibble (it is new and I used the puppy food before that)..I put it in a plastic bag and beat it with a hammer to make a really coarse meal. I use Pedigree canned lamb and rice puppy food, a little formula and some yogurt or cottage cheese. Make the mixture soupy and make sure you feed them with really warm food. Start by sticking the tip of your finger in the food and then into their mouth. They will soon learn to eat from a baby spoon OR set the flat plate of food on something that will raise it about an inch off the floor. They do less walking thru it that way and can eat it easier. I stick the plate on the chin of each baby and let them get the smell of the food. IF they are not eating as much as you think, and BTW, they might eat only a teaspoon 3-4 times a day, add some NurtiStat to the mix. You can make the mixture thin enough to syringe feed them if needed.. If you would like to chat let me know and I will PM my phone number to you....I hope this has been of help to you but I will be willing to help any other way I can...give those fat tummies little respberries from Rini's cuties...

03-08-2006, 08:54 AM	#10
pebblesmama Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 84	Get some puppy dog food and add warm water to it. It will soften it and the puppies are old enough to eat it now. You may also want to add the milk replacer to it. They love it if you warm it up a little. Good luck and good job on killing the fox.

03-08-2006, 09:10 AM	#11
migualla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 27	I want to thank you all for posting! I have also posted this in the breeders forum. Rini, Please pm me your phone if you dont mind. You dont know how much that means to me. Everyone here is so nice and helpful. I am sure my husband will appreciate you all also. He is so sick of me sitting in the middle of the floor crying while feeding these babies. He is understanding but seriously I feel so alone with them. I am so scared to give them mush due to the fact there is NO teeth in there. I understand making it soft but are they really able to swallow it? I am a registered nurse but give me sick people any day! These puppies are so helpless. I have not left the house with the exception of Fri afternoon with Shelbie at the Vet and then again yesterday with them to the Vet. Again, THANK YOU all for the advise so far and I am hoping there is more to come!! Migualla

03-08-2006, 09:50 AM	#12
heather_lathrop Gizmo and Gidget's Pet Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,323	Oh my gosh! I am so sorry! I can't imagine the pain you are going through! Bless your heart! I don't have any puppy advise for you, but I want you to know you and the pups are in my prayers! I would have killed the fox too! __________________ Heather-Moma to Gizmo and Gidget see us on Dogster:www.dogster.com/?268065 www.dogster.com/?268072 Heather's myspacehttp://www.myspace.com/heatherlathrop

03-08-2006, 10:15 AM	#13
feminvstr Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,398	OH MY GOD!! I am so sorry for your loss this is all too sad..... youre in great hands with Whispersmom...your puppies are old enough to begin eating on their own as she said...watching them eat will bring huge smiles and wonderment you so desperately need right now... All the best to you and those sweet little puppies __________________ Kimberly

03-08-2006, 10:46 AM	#14
smmrpm Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 800	You got great advice from whispersmom!! I only wanted to tell you how sorry I am - I can't even imagine what you went through and wish you all the best!! I hope and pray things continue to go smoothly with your babies!! __________________ Max, Piper, Emma & Buttercup Click HERE to see our Pictures

03-08-2006, 10:56 AM	#15
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 9,634	so so sorry for you loss, i feel terrible... and im sorrry im at a loss for words. so sad __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...