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10-17-2010, 07:32 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wausau, WI USA
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| High protein food question I have had my 8 month old puppy on Orijen puppy formula since Friday and I have noticed that she needs to go outside to potty more often. Could this be from the food? Also, I have read on the forum that high protein may be bad?? Would this food also cause her to gain weight because she seems to be the perfect weight now and I don't want her to gain more. Any advice or opinions? |
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10-17-2010, 07:38 AM | #2 |
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| Is she needing to go out more often to pee or poop? I find that my dogs poop more often on certain foods, less on others. If she is peeing more often, you might want to have a urineanalysis done to check for infection or kidney issues- but that is most likely unrelated to the food. High Protein foods are not good for dogs with liver disease, the problem is liver disease is very common in Yorkies and can go undiagnosed for years. I think all Yorkie owners should have a Bile Acid Test done on their Yorkies, but it becomes especially important if you are considering putting your dog on a high protein food. If the liver is functioning normally, using a high protein food should be fine. Personally I prefer to keep the food in the middle range (like 35% or less) even in a perfectly healthy dog. Weight gain usually has to do with calories/fat content- if you find your dog gaining weight on a certain food, just adjust the amount you are feeding her. |
10-17-2010, 07:41 AM | #3 |
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| High protein food can be too rich for some dogs, especially younger ones. Boomer had loose stool the whole time he was on the higher protein adult food (from about 8 to 10 months) even though my adults did fine...once I switched them to a lower protein food that worked for all of them the loose stools didsppeared and Boomer was normal again. |
10-17-2010, 08:52 AM | #4 |
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| You already received good advice on the food issue. I just wanted to point out that your baby is still very young. She can still grow (and gain weight) until she's 18 months according to my vet. Some stop growing sooner, some stop growing later.
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10-17-2010, 10:23 AM | #5 |
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| Are you feeding her kibble or canned food? Kibble is naturally dehydrating. I know of several Maltese who have had elevated kidney values with high protein kibble (Acana and Evo). I personally would not feed a high protein kibble to a breed like Yorkies or Maltese who are prone to liver disease. Protein is processed in the liver and any waste materials are filtered and excreted by the kidneys. High quality protein does not generate large amounts of waste that needs to be removed from the body, but poor quality protein which is difficult to digest does and thus puts stress on the kidneys. The liver needs water to process protein and as a medium to carry waste products to the kidneys, where they are filtered out and most of the water is reabsorbed. The less concentrated the waste products in this primary filtrate are, the easier it is for the kidneys to do their filtering work - that's why it is unhealthy to feed dry food only and so critical that dogs eating mostly or exclusively dry food and dogs with liver disease get lots of extra water. Dogs who eat mostly canned food or a home prepared diet automatically take in more moisture and do not need to compensate as much by drinking. The Dog Food Project - Is too much protein harmful? A Kibble Fed Dog is a Dehydrated Dog and That’s Bad! |
10-17-2010, 11:15 AM | #6 |
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| QUOTE=Ladymom;3301820]Are you feeding her kibble or canned food? Kibble is naturally dehydrating. I know of several Maltese who have had elevated kidney values with high protein kibble (Acana and Evo). I personally would not feed a high protein kibble to a breed like Yorkies or Maltese who are prone to liver disease. Protein is processed in the liver and any waste materials are filtered and excreted by the kidneys. High quality protein does not generate large amounts of waste that needs to be removed from the body, but poor quality protein which is difficult to digest does and thus puts stress on the kidneys. The liver needs water to process protein and as a medium to carry waste products to the kidneys, where they are filtered out and most of the water is reabsorbed. The less concentrated the waste products in this primary filtrate are, the easier it is for the kidneys to do their filtering work - that's why it is unhealthy to feed dry food only and so critical that dogs eating mostly or exclusively dry food and dogs with liver disease get lots of extra water. Dogs who eat mostly canned food or a home prepared diet automatically take in more moisture and do not need to compensate as much by drinking. Excellent Post. For the last year on YT I have espoused that complete proteins coming from meat are not the issue with liver and kidney disease. The issue is when incomplete proteins such as corn are used in combination with other incomplete proteins. These generate excessive waste products that both the liver and kidneys have to deal with. In essence by feeding our pups grain-based foods as the "protein" requirement, we are fulfilling the expectation of future liver and kidney disease. |
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