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01-12-2010, 12:27 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my house :)
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| Question about injectable anesthesia. I've always been told that Isoflourine is the best anesthesia to use for small dogs and I've never had any problems when this has been used with mine. However, I was calling around today interviewing some of the vets in this area since we don't really have one here yet (we still use ours who is 85 miles one way)...and I was told by one of them that they use injectable anesthesia. They said it is telazol and torbuterol (sp?)...they keep them on oxygen and use medicam for pain. They also keep the girls over night, no outside sutures just internal ones that dissolve and glue on the outside but only if it's needed. They said they would use the same for Nikki (the male) but he wouldn't have to stay overnight...and they could clean his teeth at the same time but not the girls because it could allow bacteria into the abdomen. So, for my girls that would mean going under a second time to have their teeth cleaned. I've had males for years and I'm not up to protocol for the girls and I don't know anything about the anesthesia they mentioned. Also, neither vets do pre-op bloodwork unless it's specifically requested by the owner...they automatically do it on geriatric or comprimised patients. They also have to be current on rabies & heartworm at one vet and rabies and distemper at the other...I understand the rabies but not the difference in the other requirements. Does that all sound right to you guys? Last edited by my2boyz; 01-12-2010 at 12:29 PM. |
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01-12-2010, 12:39 PM | #2 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
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| I'd like to know too |
01-12-2010, 04:36 PM | #3 |
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| It has been my understanding that the injectables are more harmful especially for little dogs because it travels throughout the body and has less room for error. It also stays within the body longer and the little ones don't have enough fat reserves to dissipate the harmful effects of the chemical out of their body quick enough . The Isoflourene is a gas and once the gas is turned off the effects wear off quickly returning them back to a normal state. The gas does not remain in their body. Therefore eliminating an overnight stay. Most of the time they are left there unattended anyways ( told by my vets) As far as the dentals being done at the same time I am not sure but I have had the done at the same time before, but that was using Isoflorene. In my opinion I would get the pre-bloodwork up to be sure there is no underlying issues that have not yet surfaced and I would personally not use an injectable and have not in the last 20 or so years. |
01-12-2010, 05:20 PM | #4 |
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| Yes, I always have the pre-op bloodwork done...even if there is no obvious health issue to be concerned with. I knew there was something about the injectible anesthesia that wasn't good but I wouldn't remember what it was. I definitely won't be using that vet now that I have been reminded. Looks like I'll be going back to my vet who is 85 miles away...but that's fine with me...there will be no shortcuts with my babies! Thank you! |
01-15-2010, 09:03 AM | #5 |
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| Some of this is vet preference and there may not be one right answer. Yes, for most surgeries, Iso or Sevo should be used. IMO, using those two injectables for a spay and no gas is not okay. However, most vets that use gas knock down with an injectable or IV drug. I don't know a whole lot about these, but some are better than others. I do know that phenobarbrital and euthasol are not okay. Some people have a problem with ket/val and to each their own, but I think there needs to be a little bit of room for vets to do what they are comfortable with. Each drugs works differently and some vets choose certain drugs based on that. Some will mask down with gas, while others say they isn't as safe as using an injectible first. Propofol and then maintaining with Iso seems to be a good way to go as far as I know. Gas anesthesia is more expensive and some just don't want to cut into profits or don't want to raise prices. Most vets I know of don't really suggest preop bloodwork for young, healthy animals. That wouldn't stop me from going to them, but if I requested it and they told me to skip it or it was totally unnecessary, I wouldn't use them.
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