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07-15-2012, 01:40 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Georgia
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| New Yorkie Owner......???s about a heart murmur Hi! I am new to this site and I am new to owning a Yorkie puppy. I just got Maggie (CKC reg) about a week ago. She is now 12 weeks old. After reading info off the internet, I now realize that most breeders wait until the 12th week mark to sell. I did not realize that until now. Anyway, I signed a paper saying if anything was wrong with her, I would take her to the vet within 48 hrs of buying her. Well, she was due for her next round of shots this past week so I decided to wait and just take her then. That was my mistake. When I took her to the vet, they said she has a 4 out of 6 heart murmur. The vet said it is more than likely not something she will grow out of. I have gotten really attached to her and love her to death already. I don't want a new puppy but I talked to the breeder b/c the vet said it was probably hereditary and I thought she needed to know. She said she has never had that problem and she would get her vet to check out the parents real good. She didn't offer to give me another puppy(didn't want one though) or help with any of the vet bills, which I guess is my mistake for signing that 48 hour contract. I am doing an ultrasound in about a month to see how bad and what the cause of the murmur is, but I just wanted to know what others thought and how bad this really is? She doesn't really show any signs right now, however I have noticed she breathes a little fast. But she plays and naps all the time so I don't know exactly what normal is. Anyone know anything about a grade 4 murmur??? |
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07-15-2012, 05:09 PM | #2 |
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| I am sorry! I don't know anything about heart murmurs but I am sure someone else will eventually post!
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07-15-2012, 05:24 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Georgia
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| Thanks! I sure hope so. I am worrying myself sick about her!!! |
07-15-2012, 05:28 PM | #4 |
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| I suggest a board certified cardiologist. There are many things that can cause murmurs...some can be repaired and some not. After the ultrasound is done you will have a diagnosis and then know just what you are dealing with. Please keep us posted on how things are going. I will keep your little Maggie in my thoughts and prayers. Welcome to YT
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07-15-2012, 06:39 PM | #5 |
Donating YT 30K Club Member | I don't know much about murmurs but agree I would get her to a cardiologist right away to see if there is any thing to do or worry about. I will keep her in my prayers.
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07-16-2012, 07:24 AM | #6 |
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| I also suggest you see a cardiologist to accurately diagnose the severity of the murmur. It is not uncommon for small breed puppies to be born with murmurs, that will close off...it takes some longer than others. Dont get upset until you speak with a cardiologist...these things are treatable....shame on the breeder for only standing by her puppy for 48 hours....she obviously has NO CONFIDENCE in her own breeding program and what she is producing, or she would put on her big girl panties and step up and help you take care of HER MISTAKE!!! YOU CAN TELL HER I SAID THAT! If she was worth a dam, she would pay for ALL special procedures and testing required to accurately diagnose the issue, then if it is something that is not likely to close or resolve on its own, refund half your purchase price. |
07-16-2012, 01:49 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Georgia
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| Thanks! Thank all of you for your replies. I definitely agree with the part about the breeder not standing by her puppy. I just couldn't believe it. I also plan to do what I can for my sweet Maggie but I am a little stressed financially at the moment. I have a few of my own medical bills from an accident and also I've had a vacation planned for next month since last year. I am going to do the ultrasound next month and see what the vet suggest and see if she thinks it's necessary to see a cardiologist. Maybe it will be better than I think. I'm hoping for the best. I will keep you updated for sure. Thanks again for all the advice |
07-16-2012, 03:15 PM | #8 |
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| Good luck to you and your baby!! |
07-16-2012, 04:26 PM | #9 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Here is some information about the grading of heart murmurs: As you may remember learning in high school biology, the heart has four chambers—two atria and two ventricles—and the valves between each part of the heart control the flow of blood within the heart and to the lungs and the rest of the body. A heart murmur is simply vibration of the heart caused by abnormal blood flow in the heart. Heart murmurs are classified by the volume and strength of the vibration, on a scale of six. A grade one out of six murmur (1/6) is barely audible through a stethoscope. A grade three murmur can be easily heard, while grade four murmurs (4/6) can both be heard with a stethoscope and faintly felt if you place your hands on the dog’s chest. Grade six murmurs (6/6) are very loud and can be heard without the aid of a stethoscope if you simply place your ear near the dog’s chest; you can feel the strong vibration with your hands. For me if I had a general vet diagnose a heart murmur of the grade they diagnosed it at; I would ask for a referral to the cardiologist. Let the specialist determine what is the next diagnostic step. Although I will tell you that it is amazing to watch the heart pumping with the ultrasound imaging. It is a bit pricey, but they are specialists and know what they are looking at. If you have puppy lemon laws in your state it might be worthwhile to look up the law, and what this breeder is obligated to do under the law. The specialist will also be able to tell you more definitely if this particular murmur is likely hereditary. I hope that your puppy does well and that you get some clear answers soon from the specialist.
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