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Old 06-23-2006, 11:08 AM   #1
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i volunteer with a dog rescue group, and we get these ignorant calls every day " hello i rescured this poor dog that was starved, beaten, wandering the street, almost got hit by a car brought it home and i can not keep it if your groups doesnt get this dog im putting it out! im leaving the gate open, im dropping it off in the country, etc...
or " i rescued this dog and paid for all it vets bill and i will keep the dog only if your group reimburses me for the medical i spent."
why would YOU take it upon your self the rescue a dog that you arent going to take responsibilty for, or that you cant afford to take care of?
i completely understand how bad you feel when you see a torment pup but if you cant/wont do any better by it why do anything. i hate to see an animal suffer, but if i cant help it and i rescued it im going to take responsiblty for it, once i took home, in my mind thats my dog now. if you see a dog that needs help and you cant be the helper CALL someone who can help, notify so one who can help. im not saying ignore the problem, but do something that will truly help the animal.

okay im done venting...i think
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:50 AM   #2
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Tammy - you are so right and it does get frustrating sometimes being in rescue. The other one that drives me crazy is "how cheap are your dogs, I am looking to get a great dog without any problems and not pay any $$$ dog". It breaks my heart that people do not understand these poor little critters have already gone through so much and now they are just considered a cheap way to get a dog.
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You gotta be careful too! How do you know these people actually paid the money for the dog?
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we only charge $100.00 per dog, any dog and that includes spay/neuture microchipping, and all vaccines and people think that its too much money. i couldnt believe it. i can see a couple of hundred dollars. but i did see one beautiful yorkie girl on petfinders for $1000.00 perfect medical condition and young. i think thats too much but other than that most places are reasonable and the prices are based on what the organization can live on. and personally i think we should charge mor, it would weed out the bad people.
we have an application process that take 3 - 7 days, references, interviews, home visits, then the fee and then the pup is placed if they pass all requirements.
we have soo many dogs right now that we are boarding them and we have 60 dogs in a boarding facility thats not including the foster homes. we have to turn everyone awar right now that wants to surrender.

do you know i had a lady who called, her son had adopted a large breed puppy, crated all day, it wasnt socialized, no training and therefore it didnt listen and it barked too much they say (my conclusion after talking with them the dog only barked to alert them ) anyways the guy gave that dog to his mom and ADOPTED ANOTHER ONE!!!!! i told her flat out that was the most ridculous thing i had ever heard, and that he should be ashamed of his self
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we only charge $100.00 per dog, any dog and that includes spay/neuture microchipping, and all vaccines and people think that its too much money. i couldnt believe it. i can see a couple of hundred dollars. but i did see one beautiful yorkie girl on petfinders for $1000.00 perfect medical condition and young. i think thats too much but other than that most places are reasonable and the prices are based on what the organization can live on. and personally i think we should charge mor, it would weed out the bad people.
we have an application process that take 3 - 7 days, references, interviews, home visits, then the fee and then the pup is placed if they pass all requirements.
we have soo many dogs right now that we are boarding them and we have 60 dogs in a boarding facility thats not including the foster homes. we have to turn everyone awar right now that wants to surrender.

do you know i had a lady who called, her son had adopted a large breed puppy, crated all day, it wasnt socialized, no training and therefore it didnt listen and it barked too much they say (my conclusion after talking with them the dog only barked to alert them ) anyways the guy gave that dog to his mom and ADOPTED ANOTHER ONE!!!!! i told her flat out that was the most ridculous thing i had ever heard, and that he should be ashamed of his self
I agree! I saw the one on petfinder too for $1000, sorry, but that's ridiculous.
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You gotta be careful too! How do you know these people actually paid the money for the dog?
I am confused here. As a rescue person I do not buy the dogs from the people giving them up but what I do is get them in top medical condition to adopt them out again. In most cases this is a spay/neuter, shots and a dental. In some cases we have meds and or surgery that has to be performed. I do all this with my own $$$. Our rescue tries to at least break even with dog adoption and the medical bills. Some dogs cost us very little and some cost us way to much..we average our bills out and have a set fee of $350.00. We could not continue with rescue if we did not strive for a break even point.

If you look at any large reputable rescue they are a non-profit organization - their goal is to break even also. If you also look at their web pages you will see they have some dogs with very expensive medical bills.

Trying to be sensitive here, when a person buys a dog from a bad situation it is not the same as a rescue situation...even though both groups are helping a little one..the "rescue" turns around and adopts the dog out.
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oh i agree that you have to make a profit. no we do not pay people to surrender dogs. we have a $100.00 adoption fee for every dog. when we were taking dogs in that we could board we did ask for a donation of $250.00 to pay a months worth of boarding up front. but we cant do that now because all the space is full

i understand also the medical bills, i think that the rescue should deff. get something back when the pup is adopted. my comment on the $10000.00 female is that if you are gonna spend that kind of money, i personally would have gone to a breeder with papers and possibly breeder rights. this darling puppy would not come with any of that. and since she is healthy and has been healthy i dont think she should be triple the price as the other rescue pups that have medical problems

either way they all need/deserve wonderful homes and i hope all of them get it! no matter what the cost is!!

i love the rescue work, i wish i had the money to do my own yorkie rescue, i would have to wait till my son got a little older.

This is a wonderful rescue group too. i did volunteered here when i was a teenager for a few years my mom had been on the board of directors their for a really long time 12 years i think. i hadnt done anything in years, but when Magnum got really sick and needed steroids to try and make him better. AARF (the rescue group) offered to pay for everything up front, and let me pay the back. Fortunately it wasnt very costly. So from there oi decided to always be there for them.

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oh i agree that you have to make a profit.
NO - I never said Profit...I said break even...same amount of $$$ that is going out is coming in...I certainly do not want people to think rescue is in the business of profit or making money - just helping animals like you do.
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im so sorry i didnt mean profit!!!....the application fees cover the cost for food, meds, vaccines, etcc... im so sorry didnt mean to confuse anyone
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It's okay - but just wanted to keep the record straight..sometimes even rescue gets a bad shake from people who don't understand everything and what is involved.

You go girl and keep up the good work
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I am confused here. As a rescue person I do not buy the dogs from the people giving them up but what I do is get them in top medical condition to adopt them out again. In most cases this is a spay/neuter, shots and a dental. In some cases we have meds and or surgery that has to be performed. I do all this with my own $$$. Our rescue tries to at least break even with dog adoption and the medical bills. Some dogs cost us very little and some cost us way to much..we average our bills out and have a set fee of $350.00. We could not continue with rescue if we did not strive for a break even point.

If you look at any large reputable rescue they are a non-profit organization - their goal is to break even also. If you also look at their web pages you will see they have some dogs with very expensive medical bills.

Trying to be sensitive here, when a person buys a dog from a bad situation it is not the same as a rescue situation...even though both groups are helping a little one..the "rescue" turns around and adopts the dog out.
Yeah, I can totally understand. But, this dog that I'm speaking about did not have any medical problems. She was just a beautiful young "tiny" that was a surrender. I'm gonna see if I can find her for you and you tell me what you think. You're the rescue expert, and if you say it's legit, then I will believe you!
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Yeah, I can totally understand. But, this dog that I'm speaking about did not have any medical problems. She was just a beautiful young "tiny" that was a surrender. I'm gonna see if I can find her for you and you tell me what you think. You're the rescue expert, and if you say it's legit, then I will believe you!
Here she is. Beautiful, too!

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SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ..What's ."Breaking Even"?????

My rescue is in the hole by thousands each year
Every year I say "that's it" and every year I keep it going


I to agree that people have NO CLUE most the time when they want to adopt a rescue. Most call me thinking I should give them the dog free
WE charge VERY little for most the little ones here. I actually have a sliding scale based on circumstances. We have alot of retired people around here so the seniors I hardly charge at all. We just adopted out a full bred yorkie puppy in tip top shape for $100 to a WONDERFUL home
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SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ..What's ."Breaking Even"?????

My rescue is in the hole by thousands each year
Every year I say "that's it" and every year I keep it going


I to agree that people have NO CLUE most the time when they want to adopt a rescue. Most call me thinking I should give them the dog free
WE charge VERY little for most the little ones here. I actually have a sliding scale based on circumstances. We have alot of retired people around here so the seniors I hardly charge at all. We just adopted out a full bred yorkie puppy in tip top shape for $100 to a WONDERFUL home
$100 adoption fee. Now THAT'S what I'm talk'n bout!
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She is beautiful. Someone will be very happy to get her for $1000 and that money will help some of the not so beautiful ones that deserve it just as much.
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