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12-03-2013, 11:30 AM | #16 | |
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12-04-2013, 12:35 AM | #17 | |
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12-04-2013, 08:11 AM | #18 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...n-if-ever.html My thoughts on this subject have been formed by the "many" studies referred to in the links provided on the above thread. As well there is currently a study going on to research forthe Golden Retreiver - aka THe Golden Tumour dog. It will be a very important study of which one goal is to define the link or lack there of between cancer and spaying and neutering. I believe there are 5000 Golden Retreivers included in this study. This study once peer reviewed will provide (one hopes) some answers to important questions. Here are my present thoughts on spaying and neutering: 1. TIMING is important - most especially for Large Breed Dogs. I believe there is enough persuasive research on this to highly encourage the average person who owns a large breed to delay the S+N until the dog is Fully Matured. It is not just about cancer (although most especially for several large breeds it is-Golden Retreivers being a prime example), but the devastating effect on the joints of the large breeds when you spay and neuter too early. Note: Each breed of dog and each individual dog have different risk factors (only some of which is known). Nbb: I highly encourage pet owners to do their due diligence in researching the known for their breed health concerns. 2. OPTIONS - You the owner have some options to keep the good effect of the necessary sex hormones by alternatives to full S+N. Such as tubal ligation and vasectomies. Although in general most vets don't have much experience in these procedures. You the consumer would have to search hard to find a vet that does. 3. HEALTH BENEFITS: As an overall statement for male dogs of any breed there is no clear overwhelming health benefit. And some authors/scientists etc actually feel that the risks to the males outweigh the benefit. Females are more equivocal. Pyometra being an important risk factor in females over say 4yrs old or so, most especially "closed" pyometra. On the small breed dogs; I personally have not seen much research specific to S+N on small breed dogs. How-ever there is little risk to delay the S+N until after maturity, or at least to after boney growth closure. This could happen on a small breed as early as 7-8 mths but surely by 12 months old. And there is no guesswork involved; merely take a lateral view of the tibia, this is the last growth plate to close. If it is closed good to go ahead to S+N. Banfield Hospitals Inc. It would be nice to know the peer-reviewed research studies that support their position. Finally in closing I would like to see the AVMA and their Canadian counterpart to set up a Cochrane like institute to do the peer reviewed studies; it is past time that this is done. We in North America are quite myopic and seem to only look at North American studies, and not world wide studies. There is much exciting research going on for canines world wide. Let us spend our research dollars wisely to answer questions that have not already been asked and answered world wide.
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12-04-2013, 08:34 AM | #19 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | https://www.caninelifetimehealth.org...rLifetimeStudy Here is the link to the organization that is doing the GR study. Correction it is 3000 GR's.
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12-04-2013, 09:57 AM | #20 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | AVMA position on Mandatory Spay and Neuter https://www.avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/090515j.aspx The AVMA policy on "Dog and Cat Population Control" has been revised to express the Association's nonsupport for regulations or laws mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, nonshelter dogs and cats. The Animal Welfare Committee recommended the changes to the policy, which reads, in part, as follows: "The AVMA does not support regulations or legislation mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, non-shelter dogs and cats. Although spaying and neutering helps control dog and cat populations, mandatory approaches may contribute to pet owners avoiding licensing, rabies vaccination and veterinary care for their pets, and may have other unintended consequences." The policy was adopted in November 2004 and considered by the AWC in accord with the five-year review directive. After review and discussion, committee members agreed that the AVMA should not support regulations or legislation mandating spay/neuter of privately owned, nonshelter dogs and cats for a number of reasons, which were provided in the background of the recommended policy changes. Although spay/neuter is an important part of effective population control programs, and may benefit individual dogs and cats if performed at the appropriate time, whether and when to spay/neuter specific animals requires the application of science and professional judgment to ensure the best outcome for veterinary patients and their owners. Prevention of unexpected litters; reduced incidences of some cancers and reproductive diseases; and prevention and amelioration of certain undesirable behaviors have been documented as benefits to spaying/neutering dogs and cats. However, potential health problems associated with spaying and neutering have also been identified, including an increased risk of prostatic cancer in males; increased risks of bone cancer and hip dysplasia in large-breed dogs associated with sterilization before maturity; and increased incidences of obesity, diabetes, urinary tract infections, urinary incontinence, and hypothyroidism. There are conflicting reports regarding euthanasia rates and animal control costs achieved in communities that have enacted mandatory spay/neuter. Mandating spay/neuter can increase canine, feline, and zoonotic disease risks because some people will attempt to avoid detection of their unaltered pets by failing to seek veterinary care So it seems so far the AVMA is in concurrence with the research I have posted before especially for large breed dogs.
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12-04-2013, 10:31 AM | #21 |
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| We have had 6 dogs growing up and all spayed a neutered and no issues as well as all the people we known have spayed and neutered dogs and I have never heard of anything happening that people are saying could happen if you spay and neuter I would like to see some percentages and what breeds, there age and so on.
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12-04-2013, 10:33 AM | #22 | |
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12-04-2013, 11:50 AM | #23 |
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| Very interesting!! I am picking up my rescue (Terrier mix-not Yorkie) from the vet today after being spayed. Seven (7) puppies was a lot to take care of and adoping them out to good homes has not been an easy task. I still have 2 by the way! If I had left her on the streets of Houston no telling how many litters she would have had and then her offspring...so in my opinion regarding her I would say spaying is a good thing. My Yorkie who was spayed 3 1/2 weeks ago??? Now I'm not so sure. Will be coming back to this thread because my Chihuahua is next in line.
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12-04-2013, 12:55 PM | #24 | |
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Do read the spay and neuter thread which contains a whole lot of links. In terms of your Yorkie, what is done is done. I don't know her age at the time of spay, but I do know that most vets promote spaying by 6ths old for females. I do hope things go well over the long term, and chances are that they will in terms of her health Your Chihuahua, I don't know the sex or age, but again do your health research on this breed. The thrust of my comments are geared to appropriate timing of S+N not so much to keep all dogs intact. There are many factors other than health concerns that a pet owner needs to honestly assess. IMO a most conservative stance would be to spay and neuter after growth plates close, in particular if you are un-willing or unable to do what is necessary to ensure unwanted matings. And again this overall recommendation is not breed specific, that, you need to research for your breed.
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12-04-2013, 01:09 PM | #25 | |
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12-04-2013, 07:08 PM | #26 |
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