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zedhead · 01-12-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

I would say spend your time and efforts loving Newton. Welcome to YT and would love to see pictures of his little face.

Also, breed standards are 4-7 lbs.

Learning every day! Thanks

My experiance is still the little larger the dog, the more healthy they seem. Not as many probs with collapsed treachea, stomach probs, etc.

Lovetodream88 · 01-12-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zedhead

Learning every day! Thanks

My experiance is still the little larger the dog, the more healthy they seem. Not as many probs with collapsed treachea, stomach probs, etc.

You should meet Callie she is 16 pounds has mild collapsing trachea, allergies, LP in both legs, acl tore in one leg meaning the other is eventually going to also, her tummy can have some probs to and vet gave us a probiotic.

Lovetodream88 · 01-12-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod

I would say spend your time and efforts loving Newton. Welcome to YT and would love to see pictures of his little face.

Also, breed standards are 4-7 lbs.

I thought breed standard was not to exceed 7 pounds?

zedhead · 01-12-2012, 08:36 AM

Our prvious Yorkie was 10-12 lbs and had less probs than Andy does(6lbs).

sepulchralx · 01-12-2012, 09:32 AM

I think people are missing the point of this thread..

But you all are correct, i'm glad he'll be a bit larger and I am happy with the little baby, its so fun to have him cuddle between Heidi and I every night before bed.

Lil Sis · 01-12-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sepulchralx

I think people are missing the point of this thread..

But you all are correct, i'm glad he'll be a bit larger and I am happy with the little baby, its so fun to have him cuddle between Heidi and I every night before bed.

Lol...a lot of times threads go a stray. Just like conversations in person.

Yes, I think you purchased from a broker, and yes the breed standard is up to 7 lbs. But that is not what you wanted to have our opinions on.

Yes the broker is a busness and he got what he wanted..to sell you a dog. I am sure you can fight the sale but that may mean giving the pup back and it sounds like you love him so you won't want to do that.

A lot of members on yt learn a lot about buying/ adopting that when they get a second dog they do it differently than the first time.

I wish fsor yrou many happy years with your new puppy.. Lots of love.. And lots of learning on yt. I hope you take that broker down! Lol. Make complaints with bbb.. Let others know,

megansmomma · 01-12-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sepulchralx

Hello, my wife purchased a yorkie pup that we named newton approx. 1 month ago. He is currently 17 weeks old and weighs almost 7 pounds.

The seller of the dog is a claimed breeder, however newton was bred by a "family friend". Who lives "just up the road in the mountains."

We were told newtons parents were 4 lb and 5 lb. And that newton will be no more than 5 lb. The vet said newton may be around 10 to 12 lb fully grown. We also discovered that per the akc papers, the breeder lives 6 hr away.

When I called the seller and told him what the vet said about newtons weight, the idiot said. "he ain't Gunna be no ten pound!"

Newton is healthy and happy now, although when we bought him he had a respiratory infection that was easily cured, however the seller claimed it was "a sore throat". We didn't want to give him up because it was an instant love connection.

What should I do if anything?

I sounds like Newton was purchased from either a broker or a satellite breeder. As far as I can tell there really is nothing you can do about to man you purchased the puppy from because he lied to you about his birthday and possible adult size. What is the name of this "breeder" so that everyone knows to steer clear.

gracielove · 01-12-2012, 10:36 AM

Some dishonest breeders switch AKC litter registration papers around as they see fit. They have so many dogs and so many litters that it is an easy thing to do. When you come home with a pup that is coughing it sometimes indicates over crowded conditions. Sounds like the people you got your little guy from were far from "quality" breeders. If the only sickness you had to deal with was a cough then I would say you got off pretty easily considering the heartbreak some others have had to deal with.

If you ever buy another dog you might want to study some of the information on this site and research the breeders you contact and get references you can contact. There are way too many people selling dogs for profit without thought of what they are doing to the breed. Many of the online ads you see are just puppy mills in disguise. Many of the backyard breeders are very close to being puppy mills as well. You might want to look up the laws in your county and state and see if there is any way you can turn these people in. The more places like that that are shut down the better.

I'm glad you love the little guy anyway. Many of these dogs are later abandoned or sent to shelters because the owner is disappointed in their purchase.

Lovetodream88 · 01-12-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zedhead

Our prvious Yorkie was 10-12 lbs and had less probs than Andy does(6lbs).

I prefer bigger yorkies (no offense the small ones are great too) but honestly I don't think that bigger ones are healthier then smaller ones when breed right.

capt_noonie · 01-13-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sepulchralx

THanks.

Forgot to mention, I received the AKC papers 2 weeks (and 2 vet visits) after i purchased him. On the contract, the seller wrote Newton's birthdate as 9/23/11, the papers notated his actual birthdate as 9/01/11, as well. The vet thinks that the seller gave us a later birth date so we'd think Newton was further along with his shots.

I thought it was common knowledge people who pay for a purebred puppy like a yorkie will tend to pay a higher price for a smaller animal. Its obvious the seller is deceiving buyers to make a lucrative sale.. My point is, sellers should just be honest, or if they don't know... they should not lie. This guy runs a "business" so i didn't know if there was any means of reporting.

Also, on the respiratory infection.. Newton was hacking as soon as we bught him, before even takign him out of his travel cage to go into our house.. The vet said it wasn't kennel cough.

Thanks for the replies.

A lot of times brokers will fudge the birthdates so that the pups seems smaller and they say they are younger or older to fit in with whatever story they are trying to feed you.

I would contact the actual breeder and ask some questions about the dam and sire's weight and overall health.

Many of us didn't get our first babies from the right places, myself included, but it's what you do once you know the truth that matters. Just keep him and love him, but next time, research the breeder before you buy. You should choose your breeder first, before you choose your pup. A good breeder will be available to you for life, just like a good friend. Not turn their back on you once they've gotten your money.

Buster Brown · 01-13-2012, 05:31 PM

Yes this seller did lie to you and did misrepresent the size of the Yorkie he was selling you and actually he lied on the documents he submitted as your post states
"Forgot to mention, I received the AKC papers 2 weeks (and 2 vet visits) after i purchased him. On the contract, the seller wrote Newton's birthdate as 9/23/11, the papers notated his actual birthdate as 9/01/11, as well. The vet thinks that the seller gave us a later birth date so we'd think Newton was further along with his shots."

I would look into whether they are registered with the better business bureau and make a complaint through them and also perhaps post a complaint on Ripoff Report | Scams, reviews, complaints, lawsuits and frauds. File a report, post your review. Consumers educating consumers. Also if you mention the business here you can add a tag and if anyone is doing a Google search on the business this thread will come up. It may not help you but it will warn others and help get the truth out about this Breeder?Greeder?Broker?Con Artist. I would love to see pictures of your baby and we have a special thread here for the plus size Yorkie called the Teapot club http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-club.html and it is one of the fun threads on this forum. Welcome and best wishes to you.

concretegurl · 01-16-2012, 02:44 AM

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-club.html <---you should go here.

gidget529 · 01-16-2012, 08:09 AM

If you still have the contract, I would contact the AKC and report the discrepancy between the two, sending copies to them. I am not sure if there is much that can be done, but I would start there. If your vet is willing to say the pup was sick at the time of purchase, you might be able to go to small claims court to get your vet bills covered, depending on the laws in your state.

I would also follow the other advice you were given about reporting him to the BBB or fulling out business reviews online about this breeder. We also have a breeder review section here at YT if you would like to share your exp w others in hopes that they do not fall prey to this breeder.

As far as the size, that is a hard thing to get a guarantee.

gidget529 · 01-16-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gidget529

If you still have the contract, I would contact the AKC and report the discrepancy between the two, sending copies to them. I am not sure if there is much that can be done, but I would start there. If your vet is willing to say the pup was sick at the time of purchase, you might be able to go to small claims court to get your vet bills covered, depending on the laws in your state.

I would also follow the other advice you were given about reporting him to the BBB or fulling out business reviews online about this breeder. We also have a breeder review section here at YT if you would like to share your exp w others in hopes that they do not fall prey to this breeder.

As far as the size, that is a hard thing to get a guarantee.

Duh, I meant "filling out reviews" not "fulling" - need more caffeine.

Teegy · 01-16-2012, 09:26 AM

I agree, you've already proven to be a worthy and loving parent to him, so just keep it up.
Have you ever seen the movie Deliverance, I'd say stay away from them thar mountain folk.
And the talk of size brings up a something I've been reading. When parents contain the small gene and you end up with a 3-4 lb dog, it can live a full and healthy life. If on the other hand, your pup was the runt of a regular litter who's parents are not known to carry the small gene, then it would be in the best interest of the breeder to give that dog away, with no health guarante and inform the owner of all the potential health issues they may encounter.

Opinions??

01-13-2012, 05:31 PM	#26
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	Yes this seller did lie to you and did misrepresent the size of the Yorkie he was selling you and actually he lied on the documents he submitted as your post states "Forgot to mention, I received the AKC papers 2 weeks (and 2 vet visits) after i purchased him. On the contract, the seller wrote Newton's birthdate as 9/23/11, the papers notated his actual birthdate as 9/01/11, as well. The vet thinks that the seller gave us a later birth date so we'd think Newton was further along with his shots." I would look into whether they are registered with the better business bureau and make a complaint through them and also perhaps post a complaint on Ripoff Report \| Scams, reviews, complaints, lawsuits and frauds. File a report, post your review. Consumers educating consumers. Also if you mention the business here you can add a tag and if anyone is doing a Google search on the business this thread will come up. It may not help you but it will warn others and help get the truth out about this Breeder?Greeder?Broker?Con Artist. I would love to see pictures of your baby and we have a special thread here for the plus size Yorkie called the Teapot club http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-club.html and it is one of the fun threads on this forum. Welcome and best wishes to you. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

01-16-2012, 02:44 AM	#27
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...apot-club.html <---you should go here. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

01-16-2012, 08:09 AM	#28
gidget529 Gidget & Sidney's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 3,462	If you still have the contract, I would contact the AKC and report the discrepancy between the two, sending copies to them. I am not sure if there is much that can be done, but I would start there. If your vet is willing to say the pup was sick at the time of purchase, you might be able to go to small claims court to get your vet bills covered, depending on the laws in your state. I would also follow the other advice you were given about reporting him to the BBB or fulling out business reviews online about this breeder. We also have a breeder review section here at YT if you would like to share your exp w others in hopes that they do not fall prey to this breeder. As far as the size, that is a hard thing to get a guarantee. __________________ Mommy to Gidget, Sidney & Cricket(RIP)

01-12-2012, 08:36 AM	#19
zedhead No Longer a Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Duluth, Mn. Posts: 140	Our prvious Yorkie was 10-12 lbs and had less probs than Andy does(6lbs).

01-12-2012, 09:32 AM	#20
sepulchralx Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 18	I think people are missing the point of this thread.. But you all are correct, i'm glad he'll be a bit larger and I am happy with the little baby, its so fun to have him cuddle between Heidi and I every night before bed.

01-12-2012, 10:36 AM	#23
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	Some dishonest breeders switch AKC litter registration papers around as they see fit. They have so many dogs and so many litters that it is an easy thing to do. When you come home with a pup that is coughing it sometimes indicates over crowded conditions. Sounds like the people you got your little guy from were far from "quality" breeders. If the only sickness you had to deal with was a cough then I would say you got off pretty easily considering the heartbreak some others have had to deal with. If you ever buy another dog you might want to study some of the information on this site and research the breeders you contact and get references you can contact. There are way too many people selling dogs for profit without thought of what they are doing to the breed. Many of the online ads you see are just puppy mills in disguise. Many of the backyard breeders are very close to being puppy mills as well. You might want to look up the laws in your county and state and see if there is any way you can turn these people in. The more places like that that are shut down the better. I'm glad you love the little guy anyway. Many of these dogs are later abandoned or sent to shelters because the owner is disappointed in their purchase.

01-16-2012, 09:26 AM	#30
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	I agree, you've already proven to be a worthy and loving parent to him, so just keep it up. Have you ever seen the movie Deliverance, I'd say stay away from them thar mountain folk. And the talk of size brings up a something I've been reading. When parents contain the small gene and you end up with a 3-4 lb dog, it can live a full and healthy life. If on the other hand, your pup was the runt of a regular litter who's parents are not known to carry the small gene, then it would be in the best interest of the breeder to give that dog away, with no health guarante and inform the owner of all the potential health issues they may encounter. Opinions??