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10-15-2011, 11:42 AM | #1 |
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| Your dog's AKC papers. To those of you that have your dog(s) as pets only, no breeding or showing. Do you/have you sent your AKC papers into AKC to register your dog? I used to raise Miniature Dachshunds and so of course i registered my Dachshunds, but all my spay and neuter pets , I have rarely sent the AKC papers in. I'm thinking of sending Paisley's in but at the same time I'm thinking "what for?" She's going to be spayed. I think AKC has became so much about money anyway and why pay them to send me a certificate. It's not going to bennifit me or Paisley in any way that I know of. I do want to get Paisley certified as a Therapy dog , but I don't need her AKC registration for that. So what about everyone here... did you/have yo sent your AKC papars in? ..and is there a specific reason why you did?
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10-15-2011, 11:47 AM | #2 |
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| When we got Soph a few years ago I sent hers in because I thought I might breed her. That never happened thank goodness. I thought about sending Gulliver's in but I'm with you, he's neutered, why pay them for a certificate? |
10-15-2011, 12:05 PM | #3 |
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| There is the advantage of being able to register their micro-chip number with the AKC. Insurance offers, AKC and YTCA events, Obedience etc. And I wanted a copy of the pedigree for their baby book. LOL. But, you are right most people never need or use the AKC papers.
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10-15-2011, 12:52 PM | #4 |
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| It's been 2 years, and I never sent in Kaji's registration papers. I didn't think I'd ever need it. I would like to some day get his good citizen certificate, I think I might need them then. I'm not sure. Either way, I still have the original paperwork.
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10-15-2011, 01:07 PM | #5 |
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10-15-2011, 01:16 PM | #6 |
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| I have Abby's papers sitting here wondering the same thing! How does Yorkie Talk always read my mind? Basic Registration is $20, add $29 for gold (3 generation pedigree, 1 yr magazine, dogcare and training video) or $16 for just the pedigree, add $15 for lost &found option. I just filed Lucy's and Ziva's certificates and never looked at them again. |
10-15-2011, 01:27 PM | #7 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I'm going to give a different point of view. But first while most know I don't breed YT's I am a breeder. But even before I became a breeder, I registered my purebred Maine Coone, who was never meant or was used in any-one's breeding (he is neutered). As a purebred fancier, and like it or not, anyone who buys a purebred dog is to a certain extent a fancier of the breed; I believe it is very important to support the reputable registries of purebreeds. The registries and this includes AKC are a labor of love for the most part. Love of the dogs is first, by breeders/exhibitors/handlers, and by the organization itself. These are NPO's non profit organizations that survive through the support of the aforementioned group, and yes by you., the individual owner of a purebred. These organizations work tirelessly on behalf of in particular the purebred fancy. That means they for one; look at legislation which would be of detriment to the fancy, look at overarching health of the breed(s), speak with a Big voice to government at all levels to advance the interests of dog owners. So much is on their plate. I am passionate about protecting the life and future life of purebreeds. Why? Because hundreds of years of selective breeding, has brought the public future dog owner, a fairly good idea of what they are getting into when buying a purebred. For example; size, temperament, and potential health problems. Attitude, working ability, average life expectancy; are all pretty well documented information that is at your fingertips. You paid a premium to buy a purebred. Think about why you did that. You had certain wants and needs, that the Yorkie Terrier matched. What would happen if there were no more YT's around? My suggestion is to get a bit more involved, sign up for newsletters, see what the AKC does for you, for the public. I will say in Canada, you as a breeder do NOT sell dogs, that are not registered with the CKC. It is part of the package that you get here when you buy a purebred dog. The breeder fills in the registration papers for you, they are submitted to CKC and you the purchaser get your pedigree and registration number about one month later. I'm not sure why AKC does it the way it does, perhaps that could be change if enough proactive people agitated for it.
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10-15-2011, 01:36 PM | #8 |
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| I did send Rosie's in when we got her. I never planned on breeding her. As a matter of fact, I think she was spayed when I sent them in. I tell my DH I got them because I only put her under my name. That way I have proof she is all mine. Honestly, don't know why I sent them in. At the time, I thought I was suppose to. Now, I know that the papers really mean nothing to us. Except, it is like her birth certificate. Lol.
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10-15-2011, 01:44 PM | #9 | |
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Also when you register - you get free health insurance care for a time period and then you have an option to renew it. And - the breeder gets a notice now from AKC when you do not register them. | |
10-15-2011, 01:46 PM | #10 | |
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I also like the idea that they are like her birth certificate.
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10-15-2011, 01:46 PM | #11 |
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| I registered Couver, but it was just to support the AKC. He doesn't feel any more important knowing he is registered
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10-15-2011, 01:46 PM | #12 | |
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So this is an ultimate proof of ownership. For example I would never buy a dog from someone who could not provide me this ultimate proof. Let me add another point that the average dog owner might not value, or be bothered with (but at times should). With the pedigree you get the registered names of the dam and sire. You can track their health over their life through various health databases. Unimportant.cough...cough.. not. When you look them up you will also see what if any of their prodegy have various health tests done. Well you find out that one or two have had no passing CERF;s or been ddx'd with PRA. that is a warning or at least an alert to you. My breeders know I track or try to track as well as I am able the littermates of my dogs, their parents and grandparents.
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10-15-2011, 01:47 PM | #13 | |
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10-15-2011, 01:51 PM | #14 |
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| Someone said something about the "good citizenship certificate" ... you do not have to register with AKC to get that. Even a mix breed can get that. It's based only on the obedience training of the dog. As for supporting AKC... I do support them, but they're doing well. I read somewhere that AKC was a multi-million dollar Incorporation. I do still receive their newsletters, emails, show event schedules and AKC breeder magazine. It's really not the pet owners that they make their money from. It's the breeders and the people showing. Breeders and exhibiters pay fees on a continuous basis. Someone said registering the microchip... you do that with the microchip company, not AKC. While you can include the microchip number on the AKC registration, all it does is identify that dog for AKC or a breeder. For instance... I used to microchip my dachshund puppies for identification.. That way when they were sold for breeding /show, nobody could use that pup's papers for a different dog. ...and when sold on spay/neuter contract, the vet could scan the microchip when the spay/neuter was done , then I received proof from the vet the puppy was spayed and then i sent the puppy buyer their puppy's AKC paper. As for pups i sold as pets, very seldom did the new puppy owners ever send the AKC paper into AKC to register the puppy. I really doubt I send Paisley's papers in. I may... I just don't know.
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10-15-2011, 01:52 PM | #15 | |
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