When do they grow out of the "puppy" stage???

[eddiesmom14]

Just please be very careful. I heard recently about someone who adopted out a Yorkie and the person didn't tell the truth about their history and in one week that little dog disappeared under suspicious circumstances and no one knows what happened to him. The story broke my heart and made me very angry, too

[cslat1]

I totally agree, at about 18 months things start to change, at least for my pup. She wore me out as a puppy. She was into everything and constantly on the go. She still has a lot of energy, which is great, but does not act hyper all of the time. I'm glad she has slowed down some. I'm retired and I needed a break. Lol!

[BlondeLocks]

so this is what i have to look forward too for a while I guess ... (lol) - my little Kody is very playful when he wants to be, but when he gets tired you can tell. He drains himself out by the end of the day and at night - is out like a light

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by OwnedByJezebel

Maybe you should just help your family members find homes for their yorkies. There are rescues that could take them in and your pup could stay put in your home. Instead of your pup AND all of theirs having to be disrupted and rehomed, yours could stay in the home it now has, and only theirs would have to be rehomed (because they are being rehomed anyway).

I couldn't agree more...wouldn't assisting your family members in finding a "reputable" Yorkie Rescue Group in their area be a better choice? Breed specific rescue groups can take great pains in finding the family most suitable for these Yorkies.

I'm not sure how old your children are or how much supervision needs to be taken into account with two additional small Yorkies and one with Arthritis but, if it were me...I'd opt for keeping my own Yorkie first.

However...with that said, if your Yorkie is just not working out despite your families love for her than by all means rehome her. She will be happier for it.

Recently, we had another YT member who was needing to rehome her Yorkie due to her & her husband's jobs and thankfully, she was willing to place her Yorkie in the hands of YTNR to find a suitable home for him.

If you would like to discuss how you can do this please do not hesitate to pm me and I can help you!

Jo Ann - YTNR, Foster Mom

[eddiesmom14]

Originally Posted by babbsiam44

She already has Reeses in the classified section up here. I hope she does not go so quick and maybe everything will work out for all the little ones.

And what do you mean in the classified section? Are you trying to sell her instead of looking for the best possible home? If you are do you have any idea what fate may await her?

[babbsiam44]

I didn't go back and look but I think she wants like $650.00. I don't know and I am sure not trying to pass judgement, but I feel this puppy was a little more than they bargained for.

[eddiesmom14]

Well, if you aren't passing judgement that is very big of you. To me if she is trying to get money for the dog she doesn't have the best interest of the dog at heart. I know of labs and people that fight dogs and all kinds of sleazy operators that will pay for a dog.

If I had no choice but to give my dogs up, like for health reasons, I would give them to a Yorkie Rescue. I would never think of running an ad and selling them for money.

My dogs are even taken care of in my will.

[jinhopark]

Originally Posted by eddiesmom14

Well, if you aren't passing judgement that is very big of you. To me if she is trying to get money for the dog she doesn't have the best interest of the dog at heart. I know of labs and people that fight dogs and all kinds of sleazy operators that will pay for a dog.

If I had no choice but to give my dogs up, like for health reasons, I would give them to a Yorkie Rescue. I would never think of running an ad and selling them for money.

My dogs are even taken care of in my will.

I think it's so great that this forum has so many good-souled and kind hearted members with a common goal to help and assist one another. I love the fact that this is a public forum, but with it being public you unfortunately get the good and the bad that comes with it. I don't normally respond to the naive and ignorant, but unfortunately in this day and age if you don't respond to ridiculous comments...then it may appear as though you have something to hide. Why is it that self righteous posters like eddiesmom feel the need to pass judgement of others in a public forum? Is a comment like that truly in the best interest of my situation? Since eddiesmom is in the role of passing judgement, I'd like to know if she can answer this? Are dog owners who do not take care of their dog(s) in their will bad, poor, or unacceptable as dog owners? There must have been a reason why you said that in your post...or was that to "prove" or "show" how much more you love your dogs than the rest of us who do not list our dogs in our will?

Also, her statement that she knows "of labs and people that fight dogs and all kinds of sleazy operators that will pay for a dog"...that comment alone might give others some insight in the type of environment she associates in and why she made the comments she did. While I know situations like that exist in the world, I honestly don't believe those types of people troll here on YT...but again (maybe it's me being naive) I don't know for certain, nor do I pass judgement on her for the types of people she knows of or associates with.

As far as the comments about getting money for a dog and knowing what fate awaits her...does she post this same comment to every breeder that posts a dog/puppy for sale in America? Here is a fact for her to digest, people sell dogs/puppies for money. Unfortunately it sounds like she disagrees with that practice, but even doggy rescues charge adoption/rehoming fees...so should I question the doggy rescue for not having the best interest of the dog because they are not giving the dog away for free?

Also does anyone know for certain the fate of any dog that has transfered owners? Unless she personally whelped the dog(s) she currently owns, did the former owners know the fate of their dogs/puppies prior to granting her ownership? I'm sure the prior owners were hoping/praying she was not one of those terrible owners that she describes above. Although she may believe she is the only person worthy of dog ownership, believe it or not there are other people out there that are good dog owners and are willing to pay a rehoming fee for a beautiful and healthly puppy. Reeses was not free to me, nor were any of her vet bills or supplies...I hope she was not insinuating that I am trying to profit from the sale of her? Believe it or not my costs far exceed what I am asking. I'm not a breeder, but I'm not even sure (speaking only of the responsible/non-puppy mill breeders) they actually even make a profit...many are break even propositions that truly care about maintaining the integrity of the breed...I for one do not judge responsible dog breeders who sell their dogs for money, actually I applaud their painstaking efforts.

I wish the world was as perfect as the standards she holds others to, unfortunately they are not...so I would like to politely ask her to please refrain from publicly passing judgement on others until she knows the whole story...and if the whole story is never presented I ask that she please NOT assume the worst in others. As cruel as this world is, I have faith in God and in humanity that there are good people in this world and that everything happens for a reason. There was a good reason why Reeses entered our lives, and should she be rehomed to another family she will bring joy to them as well...Again, we will hold dear every joyous minute she is with us. I would like to thank all those who have responded, who in the deepest of their hearts are wishing to see the best interest of Reeses. MANY THANKS!

[eddiesmom14]

No jinhopark,

My comment about my will was only to show that I think about my dogs well being even in the event of my death. It was not about you or anyone else.

I do think there are a lot of concerned people on this forum that would be willing to help you with anything from finding a Rescue Group to place Reeses with, to helping you with money to buy food, etc. if that is what you needed. Unfortunately, that didn't seem to interest you and you immediately put her up for sale in the paper for $650.00 or so we were told. To me that just comes across as rather mercenary when only a few posts before that you were talking about how cute she was and how much she meant to you. I could not do that to either of my dogs which I've only had since the first week of November 2010. I could not have done it to them 3 days after I got them.

As for me knowing the kind of sleazy people that fight dogs and use them for lab testing, no I don't know those kinds of people or associate with them. I did have a dog disappear in 1980 and in my search for her I found out all the terrible things that can happen to small dogs and ran into people I would rather forget I ever met. It turned out she got hit by a car, my ex-husband found her and buried her and thought it would be less cruel not to tell me. We have been divorced for over 30 years and of all the mean things he did that is the only thing I can't forgive him for. I ran ads in the local paper offering a reward and spent hours riding around on my bike calling her name knowing she would bark if she heard me and every cold or rainy night I wondered if she was warm and safe. That went on for 3 years until a friend finally told me what happened.

I don't disagree with breeders or rescue organizations charging for their dogs. They do have huge expenses and most breeders never recoup them. Rescues are trying to recoup their expenses so they can rescue more homeless dogs. Both of these, if reputable are very, very careful about who they let have their dogs. Adoption agencies charge a fee to adopt children but it's to cover legal expenses and help them continue their work of finding good parents for children that need adoption. I don't know if you will be careful or not. I hope you will. The quickness of your decision to sell Reeses and not try any of the people's suggestions on this forum is what caused me to have my doubts. Also, you are not a breeder or a rescue, and no, I do not expect you to make a profit off of a dog you bought to be a life companion any more than I would expect you to sell one of your children.

I don't believe in the innate goodness of a lot of people anymore. I do believe if we love our pets we do the very best we can to keep them safe, which doesn't always work, and treat them with love and honor while they are in our care. I have done without to feed my animals and would again. I believe once you take on the responsibility of an animal it is life long.

I would like to say I'm sorry you took offense at what I said but I cannot because it's obvious we have different views. No matter how I had to rearrange my home and my life I would not get rid of Reeses if she was mine. It's obvious you don't feel that strongly about her and feel that the money you are asking for her is needed more.

I do wish the very, very best for you and Reeses, both. You will both be in my thoughts and prayers.

[dinkyweil]

Originally Posted by jinhopark

I think it's so great that this forum has so many good-souled and kind hearted members with a common goal to help and assist one another. I love the fact that this is a public forum, but with it being public you unfortunately get the good and the bad that comes with it. I don't normally respond to the naive and ignorant, but unfortunately in this day and age if you don't respond to ridiculous comments...then it may appear as though you have something to hide. Why is it that self righteous posters like eddiesmom feel the need to pass judgement of others in a public forum? Is a comment like that truly in the best interest of my situation? Since eddiesmom is in the role of passing judgement, I'd like to know if she can answer this? Are dog owners who do not take care of their dog(s) in their will bad, poor, or unacceptable as dog owners? There must have been a reason why you said that in your post...or was that to "prove" or "show" how much more you love your dogs than the rest of us who do not list our dogs in our will?

Also, her statement that she knows "of labs and people that fight dogs and all kinds of sleazy operators that will pay for a dog"...that comment alone might give others some insight in the type of environment she associates in and why she made the comments she did. While I know situations like that exist in the world, I honestly don't believe those types of people troll here on YT...but again (maybe it's me being naive) I don't know for certain, nor do I pass judgement on her for the types of people she knows of or associates with.

As far as the comments about getting money for a dog and knowing what fate awaits her...does she post this same comment to every breeder that posts a dog/puppy for sale in America? Here is a fact for her to digest, people sell dogs/puppies for money. Unfortunately it sounds like she disagrees with that practice, but even doggy rescues charge adoption/rehoming fees...so should I question the doggy rescue for not having the best interest of the dog because they are not giving the dog away for free?

Also does anyone know for certain the fate of any dog that has transfered owners? Unless she personally whelped the dog(s) she currently owns, did the former owners know the fate of their dogs/puppies prior to granting her ownership? I'm sure the prior owners were hoping/praying she was not one of those terrible owners that she describes above. Although she may believe she is the only person worthy of dog ownership, believe it or not there are other people out there that are good dog owners and are willing to pay a rehoming fee for a beautiful and healthly puppy. Reeses was not free to me, nor were any of her vet bills or supplies...I hope she was not insinuating that I am trying to profit from the sale of her? Believe it or not my costs far exceed what I am asking. I'm not a breeder, but I'm not even sure (speaking only of the responsible/non-puppy mill breeders) they actually even make a profit...many are break even propositions that truly care about maintaining the integrity of the breed...I for one do not judge responsible dog breeders who sell their dogs for money, actually I applaud their painstaking efforts.

I wish the world was as perfect as the standards she holds others to, unfortunately they are not...so I would like to politely ask her to please refrain from publicly passing judgement on others until she knows the whole story...and if the whole story is never presented I ask that she please NOT assume the worst in others. As cruel as this world is, I have faith in God and in humanity that there are good people in this world and that everything happens for a reason. There was a good reason why Reeses entered our lives, and should she be rehomed to another family she will bring joy to them as well...Again, we will hold dear every joyous minute she is with us. I would like to thank all those who have responded, who in the deepest of their hearts are wishing to see the best interest of Reeses. MANY THANKS!

Good for you. There is way too much judgement on this forum. I'm sure eddiesmom and so many others just mean to protect Yorkies. And I know there are many true stories of awful people doing awful things to dogs.
But the forum is way too full of suspicion for me. I'm off for a while.Good luck rehoming Reeses. I'm sure you will do a great job. You came to YT to ask for help and you did get it. Sorry you got judged and frankly, insulted.

[BiewerMommy]

I am still praying for your family. I wish people lived by the golden rule and didn't judge others. You are doing what is best for your family, fur and skin. I respect that you honor your word to your family made long ago. Too often people say things and then go back on their word. You seem to have a genuine affection to Reeses and I am sure you and your family has agonized over this decision. Know that there are others who support you and are praying for the perfect solution to occur so that you and your family can deal with this transition without the heartache. I know that it is because of level headed people like you that I have enjoyed this forum so much.

For curiosity sake is your name Chinese? I am half Chinese so I thought I would ask. Feel free to disregard if you are opposed to the personal nature of the question.

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by jinhopark

dinkyweil:

At first I wasn't even sure I was going to take the time to respond to eddiesmom. {removed by Wylie's Mom}

That comment alone just sank to the lowest depths...

Feel better?

[eddiesmom14]

Thank you, miabellaamoure, but I don't worry about people who are not capable of anything but ad hominem attacks. I must have struck a nerve and I'm not that sensitive.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by jinhopark

I've been losing sleep thinking of different senarios of how to keep her, but I haven't thought of any good one's that would be in her best interest.

We thought about rescues, but this family member would not have that and some verbal promises were made by us before Reeses ever entered our lives and we would need to honor that.

I feel compelled to ask some things bc of what you wrote above.

I understand that you made a commitment to family members' pets, and need to honor that.

But what about the commitment you made to Reeses when you took her into your family? With all due respect and kindness, I really am confused about why Reeses isn't getting the same kind of honorable commitment. It just feels like what you're saying isn't matching your actions, and it's hard to see this when an innocent creature is involved.

There are tons of people here, me included, who have commitments to people's pets if something should happen to them...and ostensibly I suppose I could end up with 10 dogs, if worse came to worse. It's the chance you take when making those kinds of commitments.

Maybe it is best for Reeses to find a home where she fits in, however, I can't pretend that I don't feel really bad for what she's going to go through . I hope she truly does find a forever home and doesn't get tossed around to different homes in the future.

{btw, whatever behavioral issues she has now (the ones you described earlier), will likely increase when she goes to a new home - due to anxiety, grief, confusion, etc....so, her vulnerability of being re-homed again will be increased}

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

I'm not sure how old your children are or how much supervision needs to be taken into account with two additional small Yorkies and one with Arthritis but, if it were me...I'd opt for keeping my own Yorkie first.

pm me and I can help you!

Jo Ann - YTNR, Foster Mom

I'm confused. In multiple posts you went on and on about how great she is - sweet, funny, loving, playful - and how much your family loves her and without missing a beat you are now selling her? It seemed that although she is maybe too playful for your smaller yorkie you found her personality amusing. It doesn't appear to me that you gave any of the suggestions a try. You are just giving up on her. Re-homing her because you took in smaller or ill dogs? Sorry, but this doesn't pass the "smell test." We are missing some vital information in your decision making process. At any rate, I hope you take Jo Ann's recommendation and PM her to find the best solution for this little darlin'.