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12-12-2010, 07:08 AM | #1 |
Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades
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| Off topic from barking dog neighbor complaint I'm with you-it doesn't take much other than consistent calm training. I'm sorry but I can't believe how many people use a water bottle literally shooting their dogs with a squirt like that's supposed to calm them...ye its effective but so are shock collars and beatings-it doesn't make it right. Now I'm not saying using a squirt bottle is like using a shock collar or hitting your dog-but it seems to be in the same scale just much lower. To get my dog from barking I used to throw his ball in the other direction-he chased his ball and then his mouth was full! For my "alerter" dog I used a treat reward and a calm "shhhhhh"...not a a hiss a calm assertive shhhhhh here's a treat be calm, literally now I can tell my dogs "no barking in the house. My BF's dog was literally a trained alerter, and she would bark and bark until you dealt with whatever she wanted...well that wasn't working she would bark at everyone coming in the door for several minutes-we just removed her to a room by herself as many times as it took for as long as it took, and when she stopped she was rewarded with either a treat or just attention itself...I'm curious how many people here use water bottle and how many feel that same way about them that I do.I am overly sensitive about it or do others feel it is a rather rude way (perhaps cruel) to train a dog. For those that have done it. does it actually train them or is it a crutch always having to be done?-how long?-how do they react to kids playing having water fights after water training? |
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12-12-2010, 07:21 AM | #2 |
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| Maxman is an alarm barker and an occasional bossy barker. He wouldn't quit with a simple command. I admit to trying every method discussed on YT, but I went back to using positive reinforcement training methods and have had more success. I don't think the water bottle method is cruel to the dog, just unpleasant, and not always effective. |
12-12-2010, 07:48 AM | #3 | |
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12-12-2010, 07:50 AM | #4 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | I used the squirt bottle method with my doxie. The problem I found with it was that the little stinker would look to see if I had the bottle around before he would do what he wasn't supposed to be doing.
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12-12-2010, 07:56 AM | #5 | |
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12-12-2010, 08:07 AM | #6 | |
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| I'm sorry my opinion on it upsets you hence I started this thread just to let everyone put their opinion out there. I've definitely done things people can feel one way or the other about and gladly accept anyone giving their opinion to me in a constructive nonaggression way. Please note my above response on my having used a herm sprenger collar before-ye still feel bad about it. Quote:
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12-12-2010, 08:13 AM | #7 |
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| That's pretty hilarious actually! Those smart sneaky Doxies! |
12-12-2010, 10:45 AM | #8 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I've not used the water bottle, so I don't really know if it would work with Razz. He is a barker, an alerter, an excited barker (ie when we play games of fetch), truthfully we are still working on his stopping barking immediately. I tend to clap my hands to interrupt his barking jag, usually after the hush command (that didn't work)lol. The noise I make has not scared him, he is okay with vacuum cleaners, thunder, backfires, sirens, etc etc. I personally don't think water squirting is mean or cruel just not something that will easily work in our set up.
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12-12-2010, 03:20 PM | #9 |
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| my mom used a water bottle on her pugs for barking and jumping only to discover that the water was getting stuck in the folds of skin around there tails and causing skin infections when i want gatsby to stop doing something i always call him over and rub his belly he thinks he is getting rewarded for coming to his name. but he has stopped doing the bad thing regardless
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