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Lady of Yorkies · 08-22-2007, 06:45 PM

I have 2 females that tied, one on 7/14 and the other on 7/15. I did not check for bleeding, really, I saw no blood. The first female didn't breed again until 7/21 and then my male went mad. The 2nd female didn't breed again until 7/17. This male went mad too.

So what I would like to know is should I worry about the first time they each bred or do you think it was too early for ovulation?

Sylvia

newmommy · 08-22-2007, 07:16 PM

i thought you went by the first breeding but at the vets office I work at they say from the LAST CONTACT>

Lady of Yorkies · 08-22-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by newmommy

i thought you went by the first breeding but at the vets office I work at they say from the LAST CONTACT>

I have never heard that before. Wonder if it is a new way of thinking or what. Hope we get some more answers. I have it marked from both dates on my calendar but it would be a lot easier if there is someone with experience who has had this happen. I hate to have to sit at home for 2 weeks waiting for these girls to have their babies. LOL Sylvia

newmommy · 08-23-2007, 06:26 AM

well when they get to a certain point it will be easier to tell when they are going to whelp. Also taking temps is usually a good way of planning.

lisatodd · 08-23-2007, 06:31 AM

what days did you do the breeding on? 9th-15th? did you count 10 days from the first time you saw the bleeding?
we need a little more information to be able to help you with determining the dates.

lisatodd · 08-23-2007, 06:32 AM

i just went back and reread. there was no bleeding? hummmm...not at all?

newmommy · 08-23-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lisatodd

i just went back and reread. there was no bleeding? hummmm...not at all?

but was there no bleeding or did her bitch just keep herself really clean??

jeanief · 08-23-2007, 10:08 AM

I would go by the first date so you are ready and not caught off guard . Most of the time you'll know when she is close. Other times if you end up sitting at home playing the waiting game.

Yorkiekids · 08-23-2007, 10:31 AM

I'm not really sure, but I'd go by the first date. This way you're prepared.

trini&coco · 08-23-2007, 01:27 PM

I would go by the first date...and see where it goes...

lisatodd · 08-23-2007, 01:55 PM

most breeders go by the 2nd tie but since i don't know what day she went into heat, it could be anyone's guess. sometimes dogs tie when they are not in heat. could this be the case? normally the tie is done on day 9, 11 or 10,12.
if she would come back on, we can get more information and make a better educated guess.
also...just a note, females ovulate at different times, hince the days you should mate them. the sperm can live up to 72 hrs so depending on the day she ovulated, it could be 72 hrs later that it took.
so one of those ties will not take b/c they cannot conceive between that long of a span.

char7 · 08-23-2007, 02:13 PM

Fresh sperm can live 5-7 days. Most breeders that I know go by the first tie.

LBrooks323 · 08-23-2007, 02:22 PM

I hate to sound stupid, but I'm new to YT, but I am confused. Her males went mad?? I'm confused, What does that mean? Am I missing some education on terminology? Just curious.

Thanks,
Laura

lisatodd · 08-23-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LBrooks323

I hate to sound stupid, but I'm new to YT, but I am confused. Her males went mad?? I'm confused, What does that mean? Am I missing some education on terminology? Just curious.

Thanks,
Laura

i am not exactly sure either. it is not a term i am familiar with. i am just assuming he was all over her trying to mate.

lisatodd · 08-23-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by char7

Fresh sperm can live 5-7 days. Most breeders that I know go by the first tie.

some siminars have suggested this as well as colorado university who found that the sperm lived for as long as 11 days.

08-22-2007, 06:45 PM	#1
Lady of Yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,364	Worrisome question, please answer. I have 2 females that tied, one on 7/14 and the other on 7/15. I did not check for bleeding, really, I saw no blood. The first female didn't breed again until 7/21 and then my male went mad. The 2nd female didn't breed again until 7/17. This male went mad too. So what I would like to know is should I worry about the first time they each bred or do you think it was too early for ovulation? Sylvia

08-22-2007, 07:16 PM	#2
newmommy Keep Me Away From eBay Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,099	i thought you went by the first breeding but at the vets office I work at they say from the LAST CONTACT> __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face!!

08-23-2007, 06:26 AM	#4
newmommy Keep Me Away From eBay Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,099	well when they get to a certain point it will be easier to tell when they are going to whelp. Also taking temps is usually a good way of planning. __________________ There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face!!

08-23-2007, 06:31 AM	#5
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,459	what days did you do the breeding on? 9th-15th? did you count 10 days from the first time you saw the bleeding? we need a little more information to be able to help you with determining the dates. __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

08-23-2007, 06:32 AM	#6
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,459	i just went back and reread. there was no bleeding? hummmm...not at all? __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

08-23-2007, 10:08 AM	#8
jeanief Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 240	I would go by the first date so you are ready and not caught off guard . Most of the time you'll know when she is close. Other times if you end up sitting at home playing the waiting game.

08-23-2007, 10:31 AM	#9
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 12,428	I'm not really sure, but I'd go by the first date. This way you're prepared. __________________ Susan, Piper & Sebastion

08-23-2007, 01:27 PM	#10
trini&coco Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,328	I would go by the first date...and see where it goes... __________________ Shayley Pixie Gracie Coco Trini and Their Family We wub, wub, wub YT

08-23-2007, 01:55 PM	#11
lisatodd Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va Posts: 4,459	most breeders go by the 2nd tie but since i don't know what day she went into heat, it could be anyone's guess. sometimes dogs tie when they are not in heat. could this be the case? normally the tie is done on day 9, 11 or 10,12. if she would come back on, we can get more information and make a better educated guess. also...just a note, females ovulate at different times, hince the days you should mate them. the sperm can live up to 72 hrs so depending on the day she ovulated, it could be 72 hrs later that it took. so one of those ties will not take b/c they cannot conceive between that long of a span. __________________ lisa lisa and the cult jam yorkies

08-23-2007, 02:13 PM	#12
char7 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 712	Fresh sperm can live 5-7 days. Most breeders that I know go by the first tie.

08-23-2007, 02:22 PM	#13
LBrooks323 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham Posts: 104	I hate to sound stupid, but I'm new to YT, but I am confused. Her males went mad?? I'm confused, What does that mean? Am I missing some education on terminology? Just curious. Thanks, Laura