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04-21-2005, 05:24 AM | #1 |
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| Eclampsia Question I have never had this happen with any of my girls., but I wanted to ask this question for future reference. If a female yorkie gets eclampsia during whelping a litter are they prone to this from now on and need to be spayed? I cant find the answer and thought I would ask you all before I called my vet. |
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04-21-2005, 05:46 AM | #2 |
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| eclampsia Yes, they will be prone to it in future breedings. Some people do not realize how important diet is..no calcuim pills before whelping..that can even cause it. Lots of calcuim rich food afterwards and lots of food period...I feed my mommies 3 huge meals of chicken, rice, cottage, eggs, veggies and dry all mixed together, plus dry at all times, yohgart and ice cream several times per week also when nursing...if a bitch has a small litter, I am not as concerned. 5 to 6 and I suppliment the pups from birth and mom nursing too..but it takes the drain off her. Pregnancy is not what is so hard on moms, it is the nursing part...that is why small girls are so risky even with 2 or 3 pups. |
04-21-2005, 06:06 AM | #3 |
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| Yes, listen to Yorkierose! Do all your research now and be prepared just in case! You don't want to think the worst but if it happens it comes on fast and you might freak out like I did! You'll feel better and more prepared if you get educated about it now. Best wishes and love to your little expectant mommie!
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04-21-2005, 08:07 AM | #4 |
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| What [B]A+++++++++++ info! THanks you two for your replies. No one is prego right now. But this is a question that has crossed my mind frequently lately and I want to be prepared. Invaluable information..................I understand it answered ........prevent it first so you dont have to treat it later. I heard its terrible to witness and comes on quick.....that would freak me out! I am so impressed with this community! I hope anyone who passes thru my website to look at yorkies sees the link here and comes to visit. It really is so important to be educated with this breed.....they can be tricky little devils! But they are worth it. Such a nice breed of dog. |
04-21-2005, 09:09 AM | #5 |
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| eclampsia Also..larger girls can have the problem just as easy. Some make too much milk, the pups drain them like a running faucet. It is actually better for a mommy to produce just enough milk to keep the pups content and growing...sometimes I look in the whelping box and there are a couple "BEACHED WHALES" permentantly attached to a nipple...those are the ones I try and fill up with milk a couple times a day..they will nurse less and let the tinies have more. If you nurse the tinies, the bigger ones are still draining mom..if you have a large litter, nurse half one day and half the next..so the mom actually is only making milk for half the number. I am one who weans early...I start food at 4 weeks and weaned seriously at 5 weeks..by 6 they are 100% off mom, but play with her. |
04-21-2005, 09:33 AM | #6 |
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| I f you do have a large litter,,, you said you supplement the pups. What do supplement them with? |
04-21-2005, 09:48 AM | #7 |
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| pups Goats milk in a nurser..I tube feed tinies. |
05-03-2005, 04:13 AM | #8 |
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| I have had eclampsia with 1 of my female it started as soon as she was done having the last pup a litter of two, they are right do not supplement calcium during gestation ,it is a scary thing was so afraid I was going to loose her had to go to the vets of course a midnight visit for a treatment ,took 2 days to get her back to normal. My little one is on royal cannin and gets fed very well ,cannot understand why she does not store calcium well My vet suggested waiting a couple of heats and then trying to breed her again and see what happens if it does happen again is not worth breeding her to loose her just for puppies she is worth more than money for pups. |
05-18-2005, 02:30 AM | #9 |
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| Eclampsia Wow...Good information...I agree with much of the previous info also..Eclampsia or Preeclampsia is a difficult thing..It will cause tetany and possible seizures if not caught in time. It is important not to give expecting females vitamin supplements because their bones cannot absorb the vitamins and the pups might have fetal defects. It's just the opposite for a human. They need the folic acid and riboflavin for the development of the fetuses and to reverse the effects of spina bifada and other malformations. Your nursing mom can be started on calcium, phosphourus and vitamin D after she delivers along with good nutrition, but she should be in good health before you decide to breed her. This will avoid calcium injections that will have to take place to bring her out of the eclamptic condition. I hope this information if helpful. Thank you for caring for your baby. |
05-18-2005, 04:17 AM | #10 |
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| My vet always told me , with a very good quality puppy food there are no need at all to give supplement to the girls during gestation . |
05-18-2005, 05:02 AM | #11 |
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| I don't have anything to add on this subject, but just wanted to let you all know that this is wonderful information! I have never bred before, but was just interested in finding out all kinds of things that pertain to our babies. I think the best information that we could get is from people who have been there and have also prevented it. Thanks everyone!...Theresa & The Boys |
05-18-2005, 08:40 AM | #12 |
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| Hattie had eclampsia my vet suggested to have calsorb on hand when she whelps again also to suppliment her pups a couple feedings a day As well give Hattie 1/2 tab of tums daily. I havent bred her again but may try again next heat! http://www.vetamerica.com/browseprod...orb-12-ml.HTML
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05-19-2005, 02:59 PM | #13 |
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| Good info Fem..................THanks Bunches. Wanted to tell ya I also Have a sick friend who I am selling her puppies for her. She will no longer be breeding.......its so sad to me because she has been my friend and yorkie helper ( mentor). Shes alot older then me and I know she cant do it anymore. When she called and asked for my help I could not say no. |
05-19-2005, 04:50 PM | #14 |
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| that is very sweet of you to help her...as you know its a lot of work yet paid back by many yorkie baby kisses. How old is the litter your raising? I just posted my friends pics (of the ones she took to rear and place for her friend) on my site they are so cute and the sweetest little personalities. http://yorkiepassion.com/yorkienursery.htm I hope you can find another mentor, when I first started it was very difficult to get anyone to talk to me (being a novice which I think I will always be with this beed) although now the circle has widened with open arms and helpful hands. I have two litters coming in June and three breeders have offered to come and help whelp and actually 2 offered to take a litter to rear if I needed the help now that was very sweet! I hope you never get eclampsia scared me to death, now I know the signs and know what I can do to help my gals ASAP but I never want to see it again, you feel helpless!
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05-20-2005, 04:30 AM | #15 |
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| Yes yorkie people are so sweet........(can be tempermental)......but sweet.....LOL I have a 10 mth old tiny boy at under 3 lbs, one female 3 1/2 month old, one male 4 month old....these two may be bigger 8 lbs or so at adult hood........then a beautiful little girl who is going to her mommy today, she will be about 5 lbs. All are CKC registered. They will make great pets. Good luck on placement of your friends puppies!!!!! Such cuties!! |
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