Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1077759)

Congrats Dee Your Pups Are Beautiful!!! I Bet you Are A Very Proud Gramma!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Originally Posted by Rhapsody (Post 1077709)

Mary Ann,

It is common for Show Breeders to use the term culling when sending non-show quality puppies to pet homes. This isn't a derogative term. Let me site some literature for you to read: 'The Joy of Breeding Your Own Show Dog' by Ann Seranne. Hardback version -- pg: 202 -- Chapter 9: Evaluating Puppies and Young Adults -- section title ' Culling a Litter'. 'The second culling should be done at around twelve weeks. Many faults begin to appear during the weaning and socializing periods, so that by the time a puppy is three months of age, the experienced breeder will be able to say, "Let that one go to a pet home." '

Definition from 'The American Heritage Dictionary'

cull - v. 1. To pick out from others; select 2. To gather; collect 3. Something picked out from others, especially something rejected because of inferior quality.

I find it silly for others to begin to attack people when they do not even understand the definition of the word they are attacking them on. I hope I've lessened the ignorance. :)

Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B (Post 1077620)

Congratulations Delores in becoming grandma once again........I am sure they will go fast :thumbup:

On a side note, I'd hate to have any dog be considered a cull-especially one from reputable breeders..... It's such a derrogatory word..... If the dogs that show breeders don't keep and sell are considerd "cull"......I'd hate to think what mine is considered :(

Originally Posted by cutiepieyorkies (Post 1077804)

well everyone i am 50 so i guess i have only been showing for a few toddler years hey dee close this thread it is getting out of text all together sheeeeew you will have great babies and i dont think having only a very few dogs makes you a byb i think you must have a few more to me a byb would be someone putting out pups every month just a couple a year well you know how i feel .... its not your fauly all your girls come in close together

Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1077794)

I so want to thank you for your valuable information, but yes, I do know what the word means. It can be used in different ways and it appeared to me to be used in a derogative way. So sorry I can't read the minds of the posters on here, I can only react to what appears to be said in regards to the entire text. I also was not attacking anyone, I was simply relating my feeling on what was said in the post. And thank you but, I have already read these and many more since I was showing dogs when you were born, so go attack, excuse me, educate, someone else.

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1077803)

Jessy,

Learning time again....Culling is a common word used by show breeders....it is not derrogatory.....it means assessing your litter for your show quality....not that the litter isn't beautiful....but, one, just maybe one has that extra "I've got what it takes and I dare you not to put me up look"....

Show Breeders that have been in this for countless number of years will tell you that they consider themselves very blessed if they get 1 possible show dog in every 6 litters.....2 It's a jackpot......and they get down on their knees and give thanks......dramatic, but oh so true.

Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1077794)

I so want to thank you for your valuable information, but yes, I do know what the word means. It can be used in different ways and it appeared to me to be used in a derogative way. So sorry I can't read the minds of the posters on here, I can only react to what appears to be said in regards to the entire text. I also was not attacking anyone, I was simply relating my feeling on what was said in the post. And thank you but, I have already read these and many more since I was showing dogs when you were born, so go attack, excuse me, educate, someone else.

Originally Posted by Rhapsody (Post 1077969)

Lol, whatever. Wasn't attacking.

Hey, I know your mad, but I'm not. Question for you? My Dad and I both graduated from Tech. You wouldn't happen to be going there would you? It's been a while, but I have fond memories of going out to the strip to pick up recreational beverages. . . I mean fond memories of my interesting professors, lol. :) I even have a picture on my bullentin board of when I was 6 years old on the Red Raider's lap, lol.

Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1078023)

Hey, I'm not either. Things can be misinterpreted when we don't have the pleasure of looking each other in the face when we're speaking. No, long time past, but I do have 3 kids in Tech. and yes, the strip is still there. Hey, now you can go to Wolfforth, which is now basically in Lubbock and pick up those recreational beverages.. It's getting closer..

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom (Post 1077215)

Thanks, Rose, i have contacted admin about the rude post and expect this thread to be closed now at any time. And you are right. Seems MOST of the show breeders on this forum do think they are the only ones with any knowledge at all and the only ones that ought to be breeding. As you well know, three out of my last litter of five are going to try the show ring. Does not mean they will make anything but have been deemed show quality so yes, I do have good dogs.

Originally Posted by tegamom1 (Post 1077457)

Let me first say, I have nothing against reputable, responsible companion breeders. I do have a problem with back yard breeders that have made breeding dogs and popping out litter after litter their career. Also, calling the puppies that show breeders place in companion homes, "culls" is unbelievable! Show breeders breed for as close to perfection as possible. We all know, no dog is perfect....every puppy in every litter is not always what is to be considered "show quality". but these puppies are far from being "culls"! Show breeders puppies that are placed in companion homes are generally less expensive than many companion breeders. Their interest is in placing their puppies in the best forever homes possible. It's quality...not quantity. Also, the show breeders that I know and know of, have started with the best possible show puppy they could find and gone from there. Although, it does happen, someone just "lucking up", rarely happens. I have also seen puppies advertised on here that were much more expensive than even show quality. "Rare", "Tiny","Designer" "AKC" (which should just be a given).
Handlers... when you factor in the price of traveling these days, are not that expensive. If you have a good dog, it does not take long for someone that is expertise in putting a dog in the ring to finish one. Most reputable handlers will not keep a dog if it has not finished in 6 months unless there are legitimate reasons, like lack of majors, etc. That is unless you want to "special" your dog, which is what I am planning on doing. I, like most people just have to work and save for the things that I want and that are important to me.
And finally, congratulation on you next litter.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1080426)

But not everyone wants to show. It's a sport and some people are just not interested in showing. That does not mean that they will not make a good breeder.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1080426)

But not everyone wants to show. It's a sport and some people are just not interested in showing. That does not mean that they will not make a good breeder.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 1080471)

I did not mean to lump all show breeders into the same category, any more than I would want to be lumped into the same category as puppy millers.

I am almost 60 years old, and have just now started breeding, for a hobby, just have the pleasure of improving my own breeding program.

I doubt if I will ever produce a show dog, and even if I thought I had a show quality, I will never know because I don't intend to show.