All I am going to add to this is: Was the dog advertised in full coat as show quality? YES. Was it shipped in full coat? NO Was the dog show quality? NO.

Deana you have some beautiful dogs and I know that you have worked hard for what you have. And YES Dovercastle I have seen David in the showring with one of Deana's yorkies!

All I am stating is everyone makes mistakes, we all just need to live up to them and go on.

It is sure human nature to make mistakes - it is how we deal with them afterwards - so if the dog with the shaved coat and the altered health issue is worth replying to then could you PLEASE reply about the Canadians who have that tiny male ? please tell us the sdolution to that , and let us pray it does not involve a lawyer - that line can go on and on

The dog you keep speaking of we asked that they return him and they refused to do so.
If this boy was full owned by us I would send him to get the pup back that didn't make the cut.
As for the pup being placed as show quality sorry thats not true, show quality is only one that has been introduced into the ring and has proven they have the attitude and everything for it thats show quality.
Show hopeful is one that you think may have a chance wether you are making judgement from a number of things, previous breeding of same sire and dam, pedigree and the pup.
I do and have taken pups back on something as simple as I don't like the type. Because I don't want mine to be in a home that isn't happy with them.
I bought my first show dogs at 12 weeks with a one week health guarantee 2 made it one didn't do you think I was ever offered a replacement NO and do you think I would expect one NO, when I took a gamble at 12 weeks there is no way I could know or the breeder could know that it would indeed make it as show. Showing would be so easy if we were handed a champion each and everytime, there is hard work behind and years of getting there on each and every one.

Again as for the pup I have told them to send him back and they choose not to.
I have bought a show bitch at 1 year old and was on CO-Ownership to Ch this girl. I took her out and was laughed at, well I was doing my part of the contract she was very high in the rear and dogs that had been shown for a year without ever winning were winning now against us.., when I asked the breeder about it she signed off and didn't make me show her. She promised a discount on next dog I buy, well I didn't buy another one, I did spay this one and gave her to my sister, this dog was also listed on this breeders page as a Champion for years and she never earned her first point. It has not been an easy road but I have been fair and to be treated like I have on this board is just another part of the bad when showing and breeding. I have seen it so many times over and over with other breeders etc. Its a shame.
I do have a litter due out of my older Ch Male that I have told the breeder in CA about if they wanted to get a pup out of.
I did have one breeder that gave me a pup when I had health issues with one I got from them, but other than that I have never been given a replacement for squat.

You have in the contract that the dog must be shown to his CH - so you obviously took this dog to be more than show prospect right ? And you have asked them to send the dog back and that you would sell it as so many like small dogs , and that you would deposit some money after you do so - correct ?? Who would feel comfortable with this ? Did you send them the dog before they gave you all of the money at 6 weeks ? NO I think not ! There is also the issue of registration and identification correct? So I think that they have done all they are to do , and in turn they should get this male rather than have to wait - send them this male and then you can have the small male back to resell as you indicated you would like to do ? This issue has been going on with out resolc=ve for some time now - this is the best way for you to rectify it IMHO

Well thanks for sharing this info. Apparently everyone has something hiding.:rolleyes:

seems you were done well by Debonairs ?? In turn before taking another dog to place out , clear this issue and have it behind you ?

Here is a good place to begin with your new path to dogs, for those of you who wish to make changes and learn, as well as educate - lets all take this survey and make a differance in our dogs

http://www.ytca.org/foundation06health.pdf