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Nikis2 12-02-2010 07:35 PM
Yorkie puppies available in Maryland
 
1. Your first and last name -Bonnie Johnson

2. Your city, state:Berlin Maryland

3. Your phone number:443-250-0645

4. Your email address:Nikisyorkie2@aol.com

5. Yorkie(s) For Sale:
2 males 2 females
6. Birthdate of Yorkie(s):
September 19, 2010
7. Age of Yorkie(s):
10 weeks
8. Weight of Yorkie(s) parents:
Dad is 4# Mom is 7#
9. Current weight of Yorkie(s) for sale:
2.3#- 3.5#
10. Registration if any (AKC, etc):
AKC
11. Price:
$700.00-$900.00
12. When puppies will be ready to be taken home:
now
13. Do you ship your Yorkies:
no I do not but I do help with deliveries
14. Any additional information you want to add:

Mom is Champion Sired these babies are raised in my bedroom cuddled and loved everyday. They come with a 1 year health guarantee. They are pee pad trained and have had their first set of shots

Wylie's Mom 12-02-2010 08:04 PM
Hello :). If these kiddos are Champion sired, YT requires that you list add'l info. Here is that part of the rule:

If you list a Yorkie having a Champion dam or sire, you must list the dam and sire's name as well as the registration (AKC, UKC, etc) of the Champion.

Please add this as soon as you can. Thanks!

Ivy1 12-02-2010 09:13 PM
Do you have photos please?

CouversMom 12-04-2010 12:16 AM
We would all LOVE to see pictures!

Nikis2 12-04-2010 07:36 AM
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sorry my daughter took my camera to college had to wait for her to get home to take updated pictures

Wylie's Mom 12-04-2010 08:09 AM
Who is the CH Grand sire?

jrsygal37 12-04-2010 08:40 AM
Do you have pictures of mom and dad that you can post?

megansmomma 12-04-2010 08:41 AM
nursery

Looks like there was a litter born on 9/20 and 9/29. But over on FB there are puppies being sold as young as 8 weeks old.

Also a litter of puppies was born on 11/27. From what I can tell there are at least 3 possibly 4 litters of puppies for sale right now. But I cannot find here this litter is listed since there are no parents given.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nikis-Yorkies/102536423128904#!/pages/Nikis-Yorkies/102536423128904

Nikis2 12-04-2010 09:08 AM
CH. Tiffany's Spencer For Hire

megansmomma 12-04-2010 09:23 AM
Selling puppies at 8 weeks old is against the rules of YT and says a lot about you as a breeder. :thumbdown You posted your puppies for sale without pictures of the parents so I wanted to see what they looked like. In turn I am now left to wonder how many puppies/litters you have since the pieces do not fit together. Not only that but you seem to have different prices for your puppies depending on where they are listed~but once again I cannot figure out who the Dam is for this litter. You still have not posted pictures or even a link to your website so I took the liberty myself. :)

Nikis2 12-04-2010 12:19 PM
here are pictures of mom and dad

Nikis2 12-04-2010 12:30 PM
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sorry let me try again

Mardelin 12-04-2010 06:08 PM
Will you be having the pups bile acid tested and hips and knees x-rayed?

megansmomma 12-04-2010 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikis2 (Post 3346730)
sorry let me try again
What are the names of dogs in the pictures? Which on is the momma and which is the daddy? I feel like I am missing something :confused:

MaddiesMommie 12-04-2010 08:44 PM
Me too. I looked at the FB page and saw what looked like two litters within 2 weeks? Not sure which pups these are.

Lorraine 12-04-2010 10:09 PM
They are a little young at 10 weeks and very risky to let them go without at minimum the first two puppy vaccinations started at 10 weeks, second set at 13-14 weeks.

Mom to Hot Rod 12-09-2010 07:41 PM
A bit confused
 
I am bit confused about these puppies and their parents. From your webpage, it is showing that Mia and Shotgun are the parents of these pups listed for sale as your other litter was born on September 29th.

According to your posts here on YT's nursery, Mia has had litters March 18, 2009 and then on January 8,2010 and now September 19/20, 2010? This information is directly from your own postings.

While I am not a breeder and I am the first to say that I know nothing of breeding, my understanding is that one should wait a heat cycle between pregnancies?...is this correct? And from my understanding, Mia is a grandmother?

Am I understanding this correctly that Mia has had 3 litters in 1 1/2 years? Or have I totally misunderstood something?

Nikis2 12-09-2010 08:13 PM
thanks for all your positive responses. All the babies are now sold I will have more litters available beginning of 2011 Happy Holidays!

Mom to Hot Rod 12-10-2010 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikis2 (Post 3351790)
thanks for all your positive responses. All the babies are now sold I will have more litters available beginning of 2011 Happy Holidays!
I guess you have decided to breed more than a couple of litters a year now, as you have posted you only do. You have stated that you are a hobby breeder only having a couple of litters a year but you constantly have litters available. and from your listings, when you do not have a full litter available, you have individual pups available??

Having 7 breeding females seems to be more than just hobby breeding, in my opinion. Are you still considering yourself a hobby breeder or would you say you are now into breeding full time? And will you be providing (correct) lineage for the pups?

I am asking these questions because your posts have been confusing and vague. I am just trying get to know the person with whom I have associated with in "rescue" effort.

Mardelin 12-10-2010 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3352036)
I guess you have decided to breed more than a couple of litters a year now, as you have posted you only do. You have stated that you are a hobby breeder only having a couple of litters a year but you constantly have litters available. and from your listings, when you do not have a full litter available, you have individual pups available??

Having 7 breeding females seems to be more than just hobby breeding, in my opinion. Are you still considering yourself a hobby breeder or would you say you are now into breeding full time? And will you be providing (correct) lineage for the pups?

I am asking these questions because your posts have been confusing and vague. I am just trying get to know the person with whom I have associated with in "rescue" effort.
Definition of a Hobby Breeder is one that has exhibited, immersed themselves in the breed, but no longer shows.

Hobby Breeder is used very lightly without the full understanding of the meaning/definition.

megansmomma 12-10-2010 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3352036)
I guess you have decided to breed more than a couple of litters a year now, as you have posted you only do. You have stated that you are a hobby breeder only having a couple of litters a year but you constantly have litters available. and from your listings, when you do not have a full litter available, you have individual pups available??

Having 7 breeding females seems to be more than just hobby breeding, in my opinion. Are you still considering yourself a hobby breeder or would you say you are now into breeding full time? And will you be providing (correct) lineage for the pups?

I am asking these questions because your posts have been confusing and vague. I am just trying get to know the person with whom I have associated with in "rescue" effort.
I was shocked when I realized this was the same member with the "dogs in a shed rescue". :eek: Something is not right......

Mom to Hot Rod 12-10-2010 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3352186)
I was shocked when I realized this was the same member with the "dogs in a shed rescue". :eek: Something is not right......
Yep, you would think that someone who claims to have been and is involved with rescue would not be breeding some many dogs and adding to the problem. But, as I have stated, I am not a breeder nor do I know anything about breeding, I guess I have to question why someone involved with the sadness of rescue still be bringing so many dogs into the world. You know, not just a litter a year, but many litters a year. And in her own words..."I will have more litters available beginning of 2011..."

JMHO.

Jemma 12-12-2010 09:58 AM
It is my opinion that if you do a back to back breeding, you should then let the female rest for a entire year before considering a breeding again. I only have a Shorkie, no yorkie....yet. But I did have show Goldens. What bothers me about Yorkie breeding is that there is no age factor when they are bred. I know with golden we never would even consider breeding until they were 2 years of age. No OFA ratings are final until 2 yrs of age. I always did a OFA preliminary first. I now understand why OFA waits. I had a yr old Golden with a OFA of good. At 2 years of age we sent the xray in for the final. She came back borderline. So I guess my question to Yorkie breeders is, do you have OFA on the Yorkies? Do you breed before they have their final rating?
It does get confusing to me, lol
Have a good one ladies!!

Mom of 4 12-12-2010 11:05 AM
I am new to YT and I am glad I am here. I truly appreciate the way Yorkie lovers ask the hard questions. It horrifies me the amount of puppies being born (not just Yorkies) they cannot be true lovers of animals. Thank you to all who hold people responsible (at least question).

Ladymom 12-12-2010 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom to Hot Rod (Post 3352036)
I guess you have decided to breed more than a couple of litters a year now, as you have posted you only do. You have stated that you are a hobby breeder only having a couple of litters a year but you constantly have litters available. and from your listings, when you do not have a full litter available, you have individual pups available??

Having 7 breeding females seems to be more than just hobby breeding, in my opinion. Are you still considering yourself a hobby breeder or would you say you are now into breeding full time? And will you be providing (correct) lineage for the pups?

I am asking these questions because your posts have been confusing and vague. I am just trying get to know the person with whom I have associated with in "rescue" effort.
This member fits my definition of a backyard breeder to a "T". :thumbdown

DvlshAngel985 12-12-2010 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jemma (Post 3354084)
It is my opinion that if you do a back to back breeding, you should then let the female rest for a entire year before considering a breeding again. I only have a Shorkie, no yorkie....yet. But I did have show Goldens. What bothers me about Yorkie breeding is that there is no age factor when they are bred. I know with golden we never would even consider breeding until they were 2 years of age. No OFA ratings are final until 2 yrs of age. I always did a OFA preliminary first. I now understand why OFA waits. I had a yr old Golden with a OFA of good. At 2 years of age we sent the xray in for the final. She came back borderline. So I guess my question to Yorkie breeders is, do you have OFA on the Yorkies? Do you breed before they have their final rating?
It does get confusing to me, lol
Have a good one ladies!!
It's my understanding that there are age restrictions. I have read it over and over on YT. I think it's 2 years but it depends on the dams maturity and her physical well being.

YorkieRose 12-12-2010 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3354295)
It's my understanding that there are age restrictions. I have read it over and over on YT. I think it's 2 years but it depends on the dams maturity and her physical well being.
You are correct there is an age restriction...8mos to 12 yrs for a bitch and 7 mos to 12 yrs for a dog...AKC regs..and that my friend is the only age limits an AKC breeder can be forced to adhere to IF they want papers...sad isn't it?

DvlshAngel985 12-12-2010 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 3354334)
You are correct there is an age restriction...8mos to 12 yrs for a bitch and 7 mos to 12 yrs for a dog...AKC regs..and that my friend is the only age limits an AKC breeder can be forced to adhere to IF they want papers...sad isn't it?
That's not what the YTCA says.
Yorkshire Terrier Club of America

Quote:
3) Healthy spacing between litters will be a priority and unspayed bitches will be protected from unplanned matings. Bitches will in no case be bred before their second heat or before they are at least eighteen (18) months of age, whichever comes first, nor be placed at risk by an unreasonable number of cesarean sections and then only with the concurrence of a veterinarian.
I understand that the AKC keeps the record of purebred dogs but it doesn't set the standard, that's what the YTCA does. I was wrong about the age, but it wasn't that off. :)

megansmomma 12-12-2010 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3354187)
This member fits my definition of a backyard breeder to a "T". :thumbdown
What bothered me was she was on FB telling her other BYBer pals they need to come over to YT to "advertise" their puppies too. :mad: This is very disturbing to me. The reputable breeders and members of YT that have morals and ethics seem to be fighting a constant battle to spread the word regarding BYBers that lack breeding ethics.

YorkieRose 12-12-2010 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 3354343)
That's not what the YTCA says.
Yorkshire Terrier Club of America



I understand that the AKC keeps the record of purebred dogs but it doesn't set the standard, that's what the YTCA does. I was wrong about the age, but it wasn't that off. :)
How many pet, backyard and puppy millers belong to the YTCA? Adhering to YTCA rules is strictly voluntary and I agree with age limts..but nothing stops any breeder from breeding between 8 mos and 12 yrs if they decide to do so...and that is why I have NEVER felt the AKC has the best interest of the dog at heart...they could easily makes new regulations limiting how many litters per year a breeder could produce, how many times a bitch could be bred and at what age..but they will never do so because it cuts revenue and money makes the rules....

YTCA can make all the rules and regs they want..but I have yet to see a member kicked out for breeding 3 times in a row or under age...and I am pro YTCA..only the AKC has teeth to stop breeders for poor practices and they do not....


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