Very nicely put!

To the OP, no one is shunning you or blaming you. However the situation is what it is...regardless to if your lab meant it or not, it's actions were the result of the death of poor Coco. Even if it was an accident, you have to look at the severity of the result. If it happened once, it could happen again. No one is saying you aren't worthy of a Yorkie or a dummy or a bad person, but your larger dog clearly presents a danger for smaller breeds. You may want one more than anything, but if it is not safe it's not safe, nothing you can do about it.
Please don't be down or blaming yourself. That is a horrible thing to have happened and I am very sorry you had to witness it and deal with that heartache.:(

Hmmmm, well, I don't want to be too repetitive. But, I wonder if your breeder prepared you enough in bringing the puppy home (w/ a lab there)? Not that it's a breeder's total responsibility, but a good breeder wants to know about other pets, kids, etc. in your home.

When I brought home Marcel at 1 pound 4 oz. (16 weeks old), my breeder advised TONS of caution w/ my Wylie - and he is just 7.5 lbs.; I think she would have freaked had I had a large dog.

It is heartbreaking, but, maybe it's just not the right time for you to have a little dog. Maybe it's just not right for your lab, and you do have to respect his boundaries (within reason, that is). I just wish you the best and hope it all turns out well.

I am sorry about your baby and I know you really want another one, and I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I am going to put my 2 cents worth in. I don't think it is the right time or situation for you right now to have a yorkie. Your lab may never do that again, but when it comes to a living breathing being you can not take that chance. And keeping 2 dogs separted in one house will be miserable for eveyone in the house. It wouldn't be fair to the yorkie or to the lab. I am sorry and I know that is not what you want to hear, but I think you know that it is best for now in your mind, but in your heart you don't want to believe it, you want to believe you can make it work because you miss your baby so much. Good luck with whatever you choose. Stay on YT with us, there is so much to learn and then when the time is right for you to get a yorkie, you will be prepared....;)

What happened is past. But, even though we treat these lil fur kids as our children, we fail to realize that they are dogs....the most docile of pets will do the unsuspected. The lab may have playfully nipped the puppy, but that was enough to cause this horrible accident. Never, never leave them unwatched, or unattended....you wouldn't do this with your children, why would you do it with a 2 pound puppy....

I have 2 pet yorkies 7 & 8 pounds that for the most part are very docile.....until they are both vying for tha wonderful chewy....I've been awaken in the middle of the night by an all out bitch fight going on in the middle of my bed, that husband and I have had to jump in the middle of....if we didn't they could have killed and I mean killed each other.....blood has been drawn.

So, bottom line we must be vigilant and aware that they are dogs first, and all the primal instincts will be awakened given the right set of circumstances.

:yeahthat: :goodpost:

This is so sad. A friend of mine just had her big dog shake one of her puppies to death. I think he was only playing too rough but its so sad. She still has the big dog and several small dogs. I am so afraid it will happen again. If I were you I don't think I would get another Yorkie. I just wouldn't want to take the chance. There are a lot of other great breeds out there. A bigger dog might have a fighting chance if your lab nipped at it. I wish you good luck in your decision. I know you are devastated by what happened and I am truely sorry about it.

Oh poor baby :( :( , poor little angel, I know you are hurt I can almost feel your pain, but what makes you think that it wont happen again, you yourself said it only took 3 sec. and it happened?:( :( Maybe a bigger breed dog like someone else suggested:confused:. Good luck, and hope you feel better.

I just got in and read all the posts after mine. I have never been on the forum "Yorkies For Sale or Wanted" so if I broke the rules in some way by telling you all what the OP should have in her first post I am very sorry and I should have read the rules.

I can say that BamaFan looked at both sides, I don't think I would have if I knew earlier. I'm sorry but no way should another yorkie be in your home but another lab would be a perfect match.

I need a Tylenol:confused:

Took my Tylenol, had dinner and read the rules.

I didn't break any rules but looks like someone else did!!

Pssst! and who would that be.....

LMAO... I hate popcorn but I'm eating it now!!! J/K

Well, I tried. :rolleyes: Thanks for noticing!:)

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here........

I have a lab and 2 yorkies. I've had an instance when my lab was playing with the yorkies and got excited and simply ran over them. Hobbs layed on the floor for several minutes and acted like he was severely hurt. It was my lucky day that he was NOT severely hurt, just scared. But I scooped him up and from that day forward, the yorkies are not allowed on the floor with Lamar when Lamar is in a playful mood. I had the yorkies before I got my lab and I had never had a big dog before and was not aware of the risks of letting all 3 play together. But now I am.

With that being said, if something HAD happened to Hobbs that day, would that mean that I should never be able to have another big dog while I have yorkies? I would hate to think that that would be the case. I learned my lesson that day and I've adjusted my lifestyle and training style to meet the needs of all my dogs, big and little, and it hasn't happened again.

Give the OP a break.

OP, I have no problem with you getting another yorkie puppy while you have a lab in the house. Accidents happen. I've had accidents happen between my lab and yorkies. All you can do is learn from your mistakes. Don't beat yourself up over it. My only advice to you, however, especially since you're strapped for cash right now, would be to rescue an adult yorkie that is bigger or get a yorkie puppy that will grow up to be on the bigger side, like 8-10lbs. Also, if you do decide to take on the responsibility of getting another yorkie, you are NOW WARNED! You now know of the risks of bringing a small breed into your home with a lab who has a reputation. You will have NO EXCUSE if something like this were to happen again. If this were to happen again, it WOULD BE YOUR FAULT!!! Just keep that in mind......and good luck on your search!

I understand where you are coming from since you have yorkies and a large dog. My yorkie had a best friend that was a great dane but I had seen that dane interact with many dogs before I trusted play in the park. I think I would have understood more if she would have come on like you but instead she tried to deceive people and has no plan but just to get another. I feel a rescue who is already going into a second home should not go into a home without funds for good care and that is just my opinion but I'm sure if the rescue dog could talk it would agree with me.

Look at it from the side of the breeder and I am not one but can understand their thoughts. If you loved and took care of a litter of pups to 12 weeks would you want one of your babes to go into a home where there lab had just killed their yorkie....I would venture a guess that you would never consider it. I understand it must have been a horrible situation for them, but what I don't understand is why they would want to do it again. Larger dog yes but I mean with a toy dog. I know you mentioned try for a 10 lb dog. Do you know how small that is?? Since we talk in terms of 4 and 5 lb dogs, I guess we get to thinking 10 is large. I commend you for your post, it's just I don't agree with you. Joan

I didnt feel that you was attacking anyone. I just noticed you posted the rules on a few of the threads where members were asking for a cheaper Yorkie. the rules are the rules and we have to go by them, and I know you was only trying to be helpful. But I was just asking why you was posting them on the threads where people was wanting a cheaper Yorkie,I could see if they was asking members for free Yorkies. I really think it might hurt a new members feelings. Thats all I was trying to say. No hard feelings here.

As for the OP I did not know this was the same person who just had a Yorkie die because of a bigger dog, I would NOT bring in another Yorkie and chance it ahppening again. I also have two large dogs a Boxer and a Pittbull. There is no way I would allow them to play together, They are not even allowed in the same part of the house together. and never are my big dogs in the house when Im not home. even thought my dogs are all loving pets, It only takes one second for some thing to happen. and sense it did happen, I really dont think you should try for another Yorkie. They should of never of been allowed together with out someone there. Im not trying to be mean , and I feel so sorry for your loss baby. But please think twice. about bring another Yorkie into your home.even at play a Large dog can kill a smaller breed in just a second.

i did NOT try to deceive anyone. I already posted about what happened to my pup. I do not need to keep reliving the horror of that day by explaining what happened. you people are very rude.

thanks for understanding RLC.

Are you going to be honest with breeders and tell them this happened with your last yorkie?

yes, when there comes a time where i get from a breeder. that is not going to happen now. I already spent $950 on her. I am not in a situation where i have all that money right now.

What the heck else am i going to say. I would tell a rescue place, or wherever else i go. i don't know what you people think of me. I talked all about what happened to her on the RIP page.. I thought for me that was enough. I don't want to relive the image. I have had to tell all my friends and family the same thing.

This was my fault only in that i let her out of her crate for 30 seconds. I did not mean her harm and i am beginning to think all you people think i just went out a spent $950 to bring her home and kill her.

No I dont think anyone thinks that they are just concerned for any future puppy

It would be ludicris to think you went out and spent that kind of money on a yorkie just to bring it home and kill her?? We certainly dont think that??!! We know you didnt mean her harm...if you had it to do all over again knowing what the results would be...would you have gotten her??? If you answer no to that question..then why get another one?? Those 30 seconds could happen again..we all just turn our backs for a second and in your case you have a large dog that could do a toy breed dog real damage and as you have sadly experienced..death..

I KNOW you wish you could turn back time but you cant..what you can do is consider a larger breed..it doesnt have to be a "large" breed per say...maybe a heartier breed like a shnauzer or a cocker spaniel?? I just cant fathom why you would risk it again with a tiny breed?? Would you really want to have to go through this again?? Its not like you can guarentee the two dogs will never interact...how fair is it to have two dogs that cant even be together anyhow?? Whats the point in doing that??

Think of it this way...if this was someone else's dog that killed your yorkie..would you take your next yorkie to visit with this dog after what it had done to your first?? Not likely..WE DONT THINK YOU ARE A BAD PERSON..I hope you see that..we are just concerned..thats all!! Why not take the time to research other breeds as you might be pleasantly suprised that you can love another breed as much as you do yorkies!! I LOVE cockers..springer spaniels are on my top 10 list..look around and see if there is another breed that captures your heart and makes a better match for your family...

Dawn

Well, now you know why...lol.:p I explained myself in those other threads too. The part I copied explains the average costs of Yorkies, recommends rescue as another option, and does point out the rule section that may have been unnoticed--all things that I would *think* would be beneficial information to a new member. It's NOT to cram rules down someone's throat and give new members a hard time as it is made out to be by others. If that somehow is misconstrued as rude to other members, well, not much I can do about that. It is what it is. The power of suggestion is a dangerous thing--I think that the situation is blown out of proportion many times by people determined to make something out of nothing, which is unfortunate because no one benefits from that.:thumbdown :(

sorry to all. i really have nothing more to say. Don't worry, i won't be getting any dog any time real soon. I am in no mood to go through any of this again. I have better things to do, (work) so i am not going to carry this on for another week. i wish i never posted to begin with.

Im sure your still grieving and in shock...may just take time for yourself and then come back and re-read the posts..no one is blaming you or out to make you feel bad..maybe you will see things differently in a few weeks..take care

Dawn

I hope that your love for yorkies, keeps you from putting another one in a dangerous situation, while what happened to the first one was an accident, it can happen again. Why risk another puppy? Had I known when I first read the thread of what happened to your previous puppy, I would not have posted the ones available.
I don't mean any harm with my words, I just would put the love for the puppy first and Not risk another pup. Instead focus on the love for your labr lab and get him a companion big enough for him to have fun with and play.

I just have to say something here.
Lots of people on here have posted about losing their yorkies to accidents. They were playing and the yorkie fell, they left the yorkie in the backyard and it came up missing, another dog attacked their yorkie.
I've heard a lot about 'accidents' occuring because someone turned their head or left their yorkie unattended for just a minute not thinking that anything would happen. Should these people be discouraged from getting another because of an accident? I don't recall anyone telling them they should get another breed because they lost their yorkie to an accident, to that one moment they weren't watching, that one moment they would give anything to have back. If this were someone who had been on YT for awhile and not someone new, there would be nothing but kind words and understanding. I don't understand how come newbies are treated different from long timers, it's one of the things about this site that I am tring to deal with and I see happen over and over again.
I love you guys, you have been more than friends, you have helped me SO many times and I would be lost without you. I just don't understand the discrepancy, an accident is an accident, no matter the circumstances - a baby is gone and someone is hurting.

Of course there are accidents and we feel sorry for the people involved but do you think if someone that left the gate open told us they were going to get another yorkie and felt it was ok to leave the gate open again we would think it was fine. I'm sure not and that really is the difference here.

No more posts for me.....I give up!!!

no, there is no difference. Someone posted yesterday that they had labs and they kept them separated and she did not care. She did not mind. I know what i did wrong and I know what happened and if i say it is not going to happen again, it wont. I hate to bring up pasts, but i read a post the other day about a poor dog who fell 10 or so stories from an open window or door. It is a sad story and he is suffering a loss too. But no one yelled at him.

marla

I do understand your pain and what it is to lose a beloved pet. Maybe not the way you lost your lil Coco, but I have lost them to old age.

This is not a personal attack towards you. But, people fail to remember what YT is about.....the love, care and sharing of our yorkies. I understand that feelings can be hurt.....but, first and foremost is the welfare our yorkies.

Breeders put countless hours into their program and not to mention blood, sweat and tears....I'm aware that accidents happen, but an accident such as this would make any breeder leary of knowingly placing a pup into a situation that "may" cause the death of their pup.

i understand for those to be concerned. But to completely not even think about giving me a chance. I just looked on the RIP page and there are more than one listing where an accident had happened. Are you all going to treat these people the same?? There are wishes that "another yorkie will steal your heart one day soon." why should they get a chance and not I. What's the deal?
i was trying to end this stupid discussion, but i just could not help it. i wish this whole posting would get locked or deleted.