dog show aka Days of our lifes
 

to start with yes this may be a rant but omg If I stand behind one more person and here them bad mouth my dog .. to tell you the truth No wonder there are not alot of new handlers in this breed. I have just started showing dogs and I have watched Profesional handler knock yorkies off groom tables and thank god it was strung up by its lead And not smashed into the concret floor. I keep thinking whats sportsmanship .. it dosnt start and end with a congradulations to the winner or a Thank you from the winner .. I have spent the past two days begging my other half into not scratching my scooter from our next few shows .. and not due to winning or loosing but due to crud I think IM gonna bring earphones to add to my groom bag .. you know the thought process you can talk about me but dont you talk about my mom .. same gos for my fur kids.I honestly took away from winning breed monday I showed horses for 15 years and never anything like this ..well a few fist fights but that was always over some man .. end of rant ..

posting on my own post LOL
 

OK I am over it dark glooming feeling is gone I will find the positive peps and enjoy the shows

As the ribbons turn!!lol

General Pawspital LMAO :D

I know that you are over your rant, but I just wanted to comment. I grew up showing Western Pleasure. I had considered getting into showing Yorkies, but I have heard such horror stories. I did go to one show to check things out for myself. And, I was so turned off that I have just given up wanting to get into it. From my experience the people were so rude and didn't want to talk to outsiders. So I can only imagine how they treat the competition. What is wrong with people. I had so much fun meeting new people all over the country, and it can't be much more stressful in the canine world vs the equine world. So what is the excuse for being so rude?

Sorry you had such a bad experience, but give it time and things will get better. Like anything or anywhere - there is good and bad. I have met only a few people that I did not like, but have met a lot of very nice and supportive poeple. Many of my best friends are show people. They are very kind and thoughtful and glad I show, so was able to meet them.
I have also met some very nice handlers and they are very kind to the dogs they show. If you watched them and did not know they were a handler, you would think the dog/s were their own. I have seen them talk sweetly to them, give them a lot of attention, play with them, and spoil them. So just give it time and you will see.
T.

The comments about one of my dogs just challenged me. She is now a champion. I ran into one of the judges that didn't like my dark girl. never put her up and talked "like a dog" about her to another exhibitor that happened to be my friend. This was last year right after that dog got her championship so of course I made enough friendly talk with him just to rub my championship in his face LOl but he made a remark to me that yorkie exhibtors are the creulest, backbitingist people in the show world and commended me for keeping on with her. he used to show yorkies himself.

I've seen and heard so many snotty comments about my baby I' can't imagine showing them. I know i'd be arrested for punching someone out who made a nasty comment about mine. :)

Showing is not for the faint hearted and you must have thick skin or develop scales. However, if you remember what we show for; To Gain Approval Of Our Breeding Stock, this will keep you focused on your goal and your mind off the politics that go hand in hand with most everything we do.

I've had the wonderful experience of showing yorkies in the Central and Southern US, and showing there is a pleasure. Yes, there is a competitive spirit, but when the showing is done we all travel, room, and socialize together. All yorkie exhibitors set up together and help one another.

Showing dogs isn't for the faint hearted that's for sure! You have to have thick skin, learn to shake it off and at the end of the day we all go out and have dinner and have a good time! Maltese exhibitors I hear are worse than yorkie exhibitors LOL...
I'm getting started in handling so I won't ever have to send my dogs off to a handler so I can take care of my own dogs and hopefully give someone else that entrusts me with their dogs that a handler truely cares for the dogs in their keep :)
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

yes I showed WP also it cracks me up I could ride a horse and sell it for 40K 60k and no one ever said oh shes in it for the $$$ lmao and no one ever messed with your tack or horse LOL .and we always told eachother good luck and well yes we enjoyed watching the novices make mistakes but we also helped them .. I have met some extreemly nice ppl showing but some of the curd is ..well crud LOL lots of horse show pepes show dogs

I don't know, I use to barrel race and I had an ex friend so jealous of me beating her all the time that she actually went and cut off my horses mane and tail hair, keyed my horse trailer, poked holes in the trailer tires, and craved up my saddle seat all because I beat her in barrels almost everytime...I trained my own barrel horse at 15 and I was better than her and she just couldn't handle it....so horses aren't without mean people, just like in dogs

Donna

Puppies and the restless
 

I painted a bad picture of dog shows .. I only pointed out the neg .. there are some great aspects .. and alot of kind ppl who have gone out of there way to be nice to me and give me pointer and I have made some friends .. as I said it was a.. Ugly moments and that person knocking the yorkie off the table just put me in a bad mind set I love to show and its alot of fun also ..and I tend to be more positive that was just a weak moment :eek:

All I can say is that moving from Texas to CA there is a definate differance in the 2 Geographical locations and Southern Hospitality is alive and well.

omg never had that happen I was showing horses since I could walk .. but like I have said a few fist fights a few insurance scams but I dont doubt it !

There is always going to be negatives within the dog show world unforntuately and it's ok to vent! Lord only knows I vent alot LOL!
I've had people say I'm not a nice person but then again I have many say I'm one of the nicest LOL...I take the good with the bad. To be honest I'm not in it to make friends although I've made a few very very good friends within the yorkie circles but I've learned over the years just be yourself and if they don't like you who cares, your in it for the love of the breed and the best representation of the breed as you can and to heck what others think :)

Donna

I'm not a fighter but I did get even :) Yeah horses can be just as cut throat so coming into the dog show arena was no different, I already had the skin of armour LOL

Donna

;)Now Donna, we both know there are some in the Yorkie world that nobody likes:D And no, you aren't one of them.

LOL LOL...I know several I don't like LOL and no you aren't in that club LOL....but all joking aside, there will always be someone you don't like whether it be in dogs or any other areas of your life.

Yep! But, then there are those that do carry a reputation.

But, I like you know there are those that don't particularly care for me, but then I've given them a reason not too.

I just had to laugh...someone told me once I didn't have a good reputation LOL....but you see, I'm not in this to make friends and if I do than it makes it a plus! I have more love for the dogs than I do humans LOL

If someone doesn't like me, like you, I gave them a reason :)

Donna

I love showing too but it can get a little stressful because of the tension between the different yorkie exhibitors. I like everybody and try to talk to everyone but I do know that not everyone likes each other for one reason or the other.

When I first started showing yorkies I was shocked a few times when breeders would walk up at a show and just start faulting my dog without me even asking. In the beginning it hurt but when I think about it I know they were just being honest and trying to educate me about yorkies. Of course the first puppy I showed was a beautiful little soft coated bitch so I soon learned that a proper silk coat is needed in the show ring if you ever want to win. She got retired really quick. Everyone at the shows has been really nice to me and very helpful and I have learned a lot in the last 3 years. I just wish I could go to more shows.

To the OP, I know that people like to 'talk' about the competition, it is just human nature. I have learned that there is no perfect yorkie, they all have faults. Once you start watching the dogs you will start seeing the faults in the other dogs too and perhaps you might want to talk to a friend about what you have noticed or what your evaluation of a particular dog is. People are not doing it to be mean but they are just stating their opinion. The show judge for that day is the only one who's opinion really matters. Just go to the show and have a good time.:)

Donna, I must say you have always been nice to me and very helpful. :)

Thank you Barbara LOL...I try and be nice and helpful most of the time but sometimes I just can't contain myself but I am learning to keep my mouth shut LOL...especially to some LOL...
I learned from a good friend of mine when you ask for my opinion you better get ready for it because I will be brutally honest LOL...it's a fault of mine to be blunt but oh well at least ya know where ya stand with me LOL...
Again, it's been said many times you really have to have thick skin in any competition whether it be dogs, horses or any other sport actually! If you love it enough you deal with it :)

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Donna, I appreciate that in you. If someone asks to have their dog evaluated by another show person then they better be prepared to hear the good and the bad.

One thing I have learned though is there is a wide varying of opinions and preferences on things such as coat, head type, body type, leg, etc. so sometimes the type of yorkie one person likes, someone else will not like. Sometimes it is good to get more than one opinion. But then I guess that is why we show because the judges have a varying of opinions too.:)

Well we all will interput the standard differently just as we do in everyday life...while I prefer up on leg that is not actually what the standard calls for in my interputation BUT if the yorkie is up on leg you still need that square body and be in proprotion. Take Chandler aka Sure Shot for example, to me that is the breed standard, breed type "except" he has a round eye not an almond shaped eye. I do prefer up on leg and elegant with a pretty face. Not a baby doll face. Coat shouldn't be an issue you either have a silk coat or you don't LOL but again that is up to interputation again LOL...
You are right, judges have their varying opinions too, and as I always just another day at the dog show LOL

Donna

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I’m sorry!
I’m new here, and a bit lost! :rolleyes:
Please let me understand!
So please allow me couple of questions, so I’ll understand
( Sorry I’m a bit slow) :cool:

I believe it's your postings:


*http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/off...g-groomer.html so you are a groomer !? Right?


*Now! Congratulations here http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...acramento.html I see no complains here! Right?



*Here…I’m so sorry U’ve entered incorrectly http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-dog-show.html But it wasn't "yorkie PPl" fault, Right?


*Here …I’m sorry about the judge http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-too-dark.html Again not a "yprkie's ppl" fault! Right?



*And of cause this one http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...rced-show.html I thank them myself every time I go to the show!!! :clapsmile:clapsmile:clapsmile




I don’t believe we’ve ever meet, but from my experience in Northern California “yorkie people” are very friendly and even without wearing earphones I’ve NEVER heard on a dog show anyone trashing someone’s dog in front of the owner!
More than that! I went to quiet a few meetings in local club and so far I strongly believe, that members of the club are following Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Code of Ethics

Don’t get me wrong!
May be I’m naïve, but I strongly believe, Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Code of Ethics in the US is much more respected, than in any other country I’ve ever been so far. :animal-pa

Yelena, in defense of the OP, she may not have been talking about members of the YTCA or the local club. A person can have many wonderful experiences at the dogs shows but it can take just one bad experience to really get you down. Since you have not been showing long you may not have encountered any of this but there is a lot that goes on outside the show ring that you might not be aware of. The OP did come back and talk about the good things about showing.

I have had a few bad days myself where I got really down after a show. It was not because of loosing or anything like that but just from me being overly sensitive about things that I should not let bother me.

I know sometimes new exhibitors and spectators take things the wrong way and feel they are getting ignored but the truth is that it takes a lot of work and stress preparing your dog for the show and often afterwards some people just get in a hurry to leave or in the case of handlers, they may have other dogs to get ready to show.

Ops...I didn't know she needs a defense...
The only reason I was writing here , because I also live in Bay Area and kind of like it here! :)
:animal-pa

I am sure she likes it there too. She was just feeling a little down and needed to vent a little. We all do at times. It does not matter where you live, sometimes our feelings get hurt and we just need someone to talk to.:)

I hope so! :animal-pa