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Brooklynn 01-14-2008 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Yelena (Post 1673165)
What does one have to do with the other?
Neither is right. :rolleyes:
No, neither is right you'd be correct...however, if I had to choose to dye a dog or have a dog with a bad rear movement, bad topline, health issues, take a BIG GUESS which I'd choose??? To some, color is important and in fact seems to be more important than how the dog is put together and whether or not it's got health issues soooo I believe it does have something to do with the other! If a show breeder believes all the dog needs is the dark steel blue and the long flowing coat and worries about nothing else I believe that is more wrong than worrying about whether or not the dog is dyed! JMHO
:::eyeroll:::

Donna Bird
Brookynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Yelena 01-14-2008 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1673347)
... if I had to choose to dye a dog or ...
the choice is not given :rolleyes:

Brooklynn 01-14-2008 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yelena (Post 1673495)
the choice is not given :rolleyes:
LOL :)

SwimMom 01-14-2008 08:25 PM
Wow!:eek:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yelena (Post 1673495)
the choice is not given :rolleyes:

Yelena 01-14-2008 08:43 PM
Brooklynn :friendsh:

YorkieNewbie22 01-14-2008 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT (Post 1672678)
Here is a couple of pics of thumbprint on same pup.
You can see it fading it did clear to gold

Thank you, this helps a lot!!

Thanks everyone else for their responses too, Learn something new everyday!

JaLaYorkieGirl 01-14-2008 09:17 PM
I would rather lose to a yorkie that is sound both in mind and body with a dyed silky coat...than lose to a fabulous natural coat on a dog with LP...narrow rears...poor topline...sloped shoulders...etc...like Donna said it is just the icing...;)

Now could I ever dye a dog?...I do not think so...I would never sleep...lol...

There is a story, not sure if it was ever posted here, and I can not remember the breed, it was a breed I was shocked to hear was colored in the ring...lol...but a young girl was handling the dog...took him in and won...when she was getting her picture taken with the judge, the judge commented on how nicely groomed the dog was...the girl replied.."thanks I colored him myself" ROFLOL...

There is a lot that goes on in any hobby and any sport for that extra advantage...there are several things I am sure some do that I have yet to learn about...but you have to take the good with the bad...

PrestigeousYT 01-14-2008 09:57 PM
This is a very interesting reading.
Some of you may enjoy.


http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_bre...entplanets.cfm

Deana
Prestigeous

yorkiekist 01-14-2008 10:39 PM
Quite a few breeders will dye a bitches coat after she has had a litter just to get those last few points as she has lightened up in color do to hormons during pregnancy.

Dont forget about the judge Suzanne Dillon also DQ's for color also.

Personally, I wouldnt dye a dog. I concentrate on structure, movement and health first. The hair is the icing on the cake. But I wont show a black adult or one with obvious soft hair either. Also, if I dyed a dog, it would look like I dyed the dog!!LOL I wouldnt know where to begin. I dont even dye my own hair(Its actually gone from an ugly mousy brown to a beautiful silver!!!LOL)

And, yes, Mr Usherwood is a total a*s!!IMO He was the judge that DQ'd almost the entire ring.

Yelena 01-15-2008 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 1673789)
Personally, I wouldnt dye a dog...
Hmm...do I live in the US or I'm still in a Soviet? :rolleyes:

yorkiekist 01-15-2008 12:41 AM
did I miss something? What does that mean?:confused:

Ladyhawk 01-15-2008 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Saleswman (Post 1673344)
Really cute! When does the "thumbprint" develop and when do they fade??? I guess it is hereditary???????
Or not??

Shirley
The thumbprint is the natural progression of going from the black and tan head of the puppy to the golden tan head of an adult. As the hair grows out the black becomes thinner giving way to the gold until it has faded away. Occationally in very dark dogs it doesn't go away and we say that the head failed to clear. The length of time that it takes to clear depends on the growth rate of the hair and other hereditary factors.

jencar98 01-15-2008 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT (Post 1673725)
This is a very interesting reading.
Some of you may enjoy.


http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_bre...entplanets.cfm

Deana
Prestigeous

Thank you, that was interesting.

yorkiekist 01-15-2008 12:01 PM
A friend just e-mailed me a letter that was written by Mr. Usherwood on Jan 12, 2008. Basically it said that he is only doing his job as a judge and following the YTCA standard. He has been judging Yorkies for 30 some years and now has been villified in a matter of a day after he did his duty to DQ. He mentioned the AZ show and stated that none of the exhibitors entered were aware of the color change, so he brought copies adn handed them out. He also said that he has every right to sue anyone who deliberately tarnishes his name, but doesnt desire to go to that extreme.

bjh 01-15-2008 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 1675014)
A friend just e-mailed me a letter that was written by Mr. Usherwood on Jan 12, 2008. Basically it said that he is only doing his job as a judge and following the YTCA standard. He has been judging Yorkies for 30 some years and now has been villified in a matter of a day after he did his duty to DQ. He mentioned the AZ show and stated that none of the exhibitors entered were aware of the color change, so he brought copies adn handed them out. He also said that he has every right to sue anyone who deliberately tarnishes his name, but doesnt desire to go to that extreme.
Well, that just shows how the change to the YT standard as made things even more confusing. If you read the standard it says the color should be 'dark steel blue' so the judge was justified in his mind to DQ the light dogs. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think some judges will be making a statement by DQing dogs. I know it will have to be 7 years before the standard can be changed again but I just wish the YTCA had thought a little hard about the wording when they added the disqualification.


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