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Glad to hear it Debbie. She had such a sweet face, I knew it would only be a matter of the right people coming along. Take care. |
so glad she has found a home |
Debbie, I am so happy Kourtney found a new home. Thanks for updating us. Good luck Kourtney.:) Carol |
imo there should be more larger yorkies as they have less health problems, yorkies are getting so small in a few years time there wont be any yorkies big enough to breed with. |
Awwww congrats on finding her a new home!!!!:p |
Does anyone here posting how HUGE yorkies should be bred realize that there is such a thing as a STANDARD for a reason???? It is so Yorkies look like Yorkies, not some random terrier..which is what a lot of these bigger dogs look like... UNDER 7 LBS is part of the standard for a reason.. a 7 lb dog is certainly a SMALL dog, yet big enough to safely produce puppies in most cases..so why is 7 lbs too small? The standard has been in place for decades...why do people take it into their own hands to decide it's useless? :confused: :confused: :confused: Not getting it. It is just as wrong to breed tiny yorkies as it is to breed oversized...if it doesn't meet the standard (and it's up to the breeder to learn what that is BEFORE BREEDING) then alter the dog..period...otherwise, God help this breed! BTW.. my first yorkie was a whopping 9 lbs, he had PDA (Patent Ductus Arterosis - A massive congenital heart defect) and required surgery to keep him alive. So let us not go there about how bigger is healthier. Keep it within standard..period. Quote:
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big yorkies don't look like yorkies.....just look like a 'random terrier' ??????????? OMG :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown |
Read what I wrote.. dogs who are not bred to standard... LOOK LIKE A RANDOM TERRIER.. this didnt say BIG YORKIES... it said any dog not bred within standard PERIOD. Size is not the only variation of standard, obviously. Quote:
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please YOU read what you wrote again and then maybe understand why it would be considered offensive..... 'it is so yorkies look like yorkies, not some random terrier..... which is what a lot of these bigger dogs look like' maybe that wasn't how you intended it to sound? |
3 Attachment(s) Okay you tell me, then.. WHICH Of these Yorkies looks like a Yorkie? 1 is a HUGE, backyard bred female pup, the other is a CH. sired show pup...you tell me which one looks like a yorkie, which looks like a "random terrier".. if you think the first looks like the better dog, then well...lol.. I guess you need to go study the standard. Quote:
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i agree with both sides i think...the bigger ones dont look as much like a yorkie then the small ones but whos to say what other people like and want in their yorkie. if someone wants to breed a larger yorkie then so be it...and if they are selling them im sure they are advertising them as being from big parents and if thats what they are being able to sell then that must be what people want...my fergie is probably gonna be about 10-11 lbs im guessing and i know thats bigger then the standard but its still small...i think a yorkie is a yorkie and what makes them yorkies is not the size but they look of them (color, coat etc.) and their brain...or whats inside i guess...so i think nobody on here should be criticizing anyone for the size of the yorkie they have and want to breed. |
Whos to say are the people who wrote the standard and those who work hard to uphold that standard in every dog they produce. If you don't like the Yorkie standard, get a different breed..or please at least don't do the breed the disservice of breeding dogs who are not standard quality. Quote:
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you're not understanding what i'm saying..... not being 'breed standard' does not make a yorkshire terrier a 'random terrier' too anybody who has a yorkshire terrier that doesn't conform to 'breed standard' for whatever reason that is hurtfull and offensive, thats all i'm getting at. And i sincerely hope that all 3 pictures you have shown are your own dogs otherwise if the owner sees this thread i think they may be a tad offended.... I think you just need to be a little more understanding. As for looking up the breed info or standard......hey i'm English we MADE the breed heheh :p |
In my opinion, responsible and serius breeders should ONLY breed animals that reflect the standard of the breed (including a Yorkie that is not over 7 LB) However, let's see that in a litter of "standard Yorkies" there are 4 puppies and 1 of the puppy is oversized or too tiny, then this dog should be sold to a loving home and be fixed. He should not be used for breeding purpose. I do not have anything against over sized Yorkies (They are loving and have a big heart too :) ) However, an oversized female should not be bred. Just my opinion and do not intend to offend anyone. |
I agree 100% with what you said. :thumbup: And I am sure you did not mean to offend anyone. Sometime is very hard to hear feelings when writing. :) Quote:
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Thats fine, i agree with that, my Buddy is 13lb and is a gorgeous yorkie (not that i'm biased) but he's from a litter where all the other pups are smaller, his sister is only 4lb..... so crazy how pup sizes can differ! but ALL yorkies are cute no matter how they turn out and a yorkie is a yorkie IS A YORKIE. :) |
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The "not standard" dog is a rescue, bought at 6 weeks old from a puppymiller who didn't care enough to take the dog back when the original owner decided she didn't like her anymore, a friend of mine is fostering her, and will say the same as me about her. Does she need a good home? ABSOLUTELY! Is it her fault her breeder should have never been breeding in the first place? No of course not. Should someone love her anyways? Definately! Is she a nice quality dog?? nope. :( The 2nd is bred by a friend, and owned by another, and both are proud to have his picture shown off...so no problems. I'm not saying these "other than standard" dogs shouldn't be loved or aren't "cute" in their own special ways, sure they should and of course they are..I'm saying shame on the people who breed them ON PURPOSE because they haven't bothered to learn anything about the breed but how to make a buck on it. Quote:
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so whats wrong with people that like the yorkie breed for their temperment and colors but want a bigger dog because of small children? why cant they have the option of having a yorkie that is over "breed standards"? and also why isnt anyone gettin on the people for trying to breed 1 or 2 lbs dogs...thats not the breed standard either but thats what everyone wants now...why cant people want what they want...and breed what they want to breed if someone wants to buy. |
A 7lb yorkie is plenty big enough for well behaved children. I myself am a mother to an 8 and an 11 year old child, with a new baby on the way.. and my BIGGEST yorkie is 6.5 lbs. If a family wants/needs a larger yorkie than 7 lbs, then they should find one who is larger from a genetic throwback, of standard bred dogs, not one who was bred on purpose to be large...or extremely small for that matter. If people are encouraged to breed oversized or undersized yorkies, then tell me..what is the point of the standard? It is NOT just for "show dogs".. it is what makes the breed what it is...and is for EVERYONE who chooses to breed. Quote:
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size is'nt everything Bubba is 7lbs and almost 9 months - all of the children gonuts over him! he can handle himself ! he is tougher then I am I think- I don't drop him six feet to the floor mind you but who would he is quick and can get away from most pesty children - you know the ones that just won'tstop trying to pull his tail or want to keep picking him up - he says kno way by just backing up and barking and that ususally does it - then he walks away the victor!! but ususally everyone loves petting him and he loves it back. - I understand some people just like big dogs though- and some like little tiny ones I'd be afraid of a 2 or 3 lb er I just would be afraid I would hurt the sweet little thing somehow. I have a tendancy to be clumsy! Bubba knows he learned early to jump out of my way when I get to close when I have shoes on = most of the time I just go barefoot in the house. For that reason do'nt want to step on his little toes. bas1:D |
Then these people should buy a different breed. The Yorkshire terrier standard is very clear about this point "Weight: Not over 7 LB". Again, big "oversized" Yorkies must be loved anyway. It is not their fault but it is more the breeder's fault. Quote:
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so what if enough people started breeding the larger ones they could create another standard for the breed...like beagles...they have the 2 dif size breeds and those are 2 dif standards...that could be a possibility |
Well in theory, I suppose that would be the way to go, HOWEVER...we all know that big yorkies don't always produce big pups, and small yorkies don't always produce small pups, so it would take decades, if not a century to breed them true...so if there are a group of people willing to dedicate that much time and effort into making a BIG terrier that started from a Yorkie, then I wish them luck. People are trying to do the same with the Biewer, then of course you get the "stragglers" who breed the Biewer to the Yorkie, which is a huge no-no for those who are working so hard to create the different breed. In order to do the same with a larger dog based on a Yorkie, there could be no variance, ie.. if the standard is set at 10-18 lbs for example, no dogs could be used from smaller or larger dogs, as consistency would have to be established through the generations. AKC will not reccognize a new breed that can not breed "true" to its standard. So, in theory, what other than size would you want to see different in this new "bigger terrier" breed? Quote:
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I'm just glad nobodys looking at me trying to decide whether i'm breed standard or not :) anyways bet theres one good thing we ALL agree on congrats to Kourtney for finding a new home!! well done Rascalls :) |
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