Update on Mindy
 

I wasn't sure where to post this but I figure since she is a rescue this would be a good place to post.

Some of you remember our rescue Mindy but those who don't you can read my post here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...y-age-2-a.html

Anyhow I have been trying some new things with her on my own without a trainer. She is doing much better, but all issues still exist unfortunately..where is the magic pill? LOL

Unfortunately she bit at the back of the leg of one of my husbands friends who she has never seen as he walked through our back yard. She obviously didn't hurt him because he said "aww she is protecting her babies (LOL he was holding little Gracie)", and he didn't even stop and look at his leg.

I was just bummed over the fact she did that. Had I known there was anyone here I would of brought her in the house. Or better yet put her on a leash and let her greet him face to face (so to speak) in a non threatening way.

Barking is getting a little better now that I squirt her with water and say quiet.

She is content here there is no doubt about that. It's like, this is where she wants to be and that is the end of it;) .. So of course she gets her wish.. I guess she is better off here anyhow with people who know her and understand her and know how to deal with her issues (mostly).:D

Anyhow, she mostly just lays around doing nothing..ahhh the life;)

I read the thread on Mindy and bless you for taking her in. It sounds like you are the owner Mindy has been looking for.

Good luck.

That's nice to hear.:) I guess she feels safe there.

I am glad she is staying with you.

Me too actually..;)

I just got a couple of books that were recommended to me as well as a video so I think they will help until I can take her to a trainer.

:thumbup::thumbup::)

Just keep at it, sounds like your making progress, can't change them over night.

Cannot do it any more!!
 

Mindy has become worse and I just cannot keep her here any more. I have 2 litters of pups right now and she is now attacking them. I have to keep her away from them which is almost impossible.

I put them in the ex-pen to play today and for me it was the last straw with her. She grabbed one through the wire and pulled the pup very hard by the hair growling.

When I clean their area or feed them she tries to get in. She sits outside of their play/living area in the kitchen and whines and again tries to get them through the wire (I use ex-pens). I cannot keep her away.

When I picked them up today to take them out to the deck she grabbed at the 3 I had in my arms and tried to rip it from my hand by biting at the pups. She does NOT want to play with them, she wants to hurt them!

She is starting serious fights with ALL of my other dogs in the house and they have had enough too. When I let them out of their crates in the morning she starts barking like mad and attacks them. There is mainly 3 she goes after, especially Rose one of my cockapoos and Rose is the most laid back easy going dogs, but Rose will not put up with it and will defend herself.

Mindy has also been growling at ME lately when I move her. Like if she is laying by my feet while I am on the computer and I love my feet to get up she growls like she is gonna snap. So far hasn't but who knows, it's a matter of time with her. I believe she is a ticking time bomb!

The vet cannot find anything physically wrong with her other than a LP on her back right knee, but it does not hurt her.

And she had bitten 2 more male friends. When I know someone is coming over I put her in my room and she barks like mad the whole time.

No rescue wants her, who can blame them. I just do not know what to do. My husband refuses to allow me to spend the money on a trainer or behaviorist, and I have to agree with him.

I am taking her to my vet on Thursday to discuss this further with him. I already know what he is going to say since he mentioned it last time we were in...sigh...

PLEASE do not euthanize Mindy. We have posted in the other forum.....Jodi has found someone to help.

Checking here for an update...there was not one in the other thread either.:( Has Karla contacted you yet Jodi? I sure hope so.

no, god no I am not going to put her to sleep...I will explain in the other thread

For those that have been following this story I would like to give everyone closure.
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...-any-more.html

This is extremely heartbreaking for me since I really tried to help. Two rescues were contacted and both agreed to take Mindy and offer her training and rehabilitation. PUP decided after speaking with Karla there was more to the story and they were not willing to continue working with her on a surrender of Mindy. I was never able to offer my backup rescue since she was not willing to pay to have Mindy shipped. YorkieMother also became involved yesterday and offered to help as well. At 12:36 A.M. I received this email from Karla.

I am heartbroken that Mindy was failed by her owners. Mommadog1 took on much more then she could handle as a self proclaimed "rescuer". If there is one lesson learned in all of this tragedy is that rescuing dogs should be left to an organization that has the capabilities to deal with issues that they are faced with~no matter what the outcome. Mindy did have some serious issues that I am sure her former owner failed to deal with and that Mommadog1 was not told about when she took Mindy into her care. But that is not an excuse for euthanasia! When LEGITIMATE REPUTABLE RESCUE takes an owner surrender they deal with the issues regardless of cost. If every rescue PTS dogs that cost over $100 in vet bills there would be no dogs in rescues. :( Mindy was failed by the humans in her life that should have protected her and loved her unconditionally.


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I am so heartbroken over this. I have no words for this....
Oh wait, I DO! This is just INSANE! When you take in a foster, you take the good with the bad, if you can't handle it, find someone better suited to do it! It's that simple. Bend over backwards if you have to. She's a "breeder," of all people, she should understand that these pups don't ask to be brought into this world and it's the human's responsibility to care for them. Mindy was failed by her owner, I get that. He was no good to her and turned her into a problem child. Issues like hers don't change in a matter of months, especially if you don't know how to handle it. I understand Mommmadog1 has to put her own dogs, and litter of puppies first, they are her responsibility to keep safe. I still think that house was to much for Mindy. She had aggression issues, and I'm glad she was at least ok with two males in the household, it was a sign of hope! She could have been rehabilitated in the right hands.

Mommadog1 if you're still reading this thread (even though you're not a member) please reconsider...PLEASE!!!

I'm willing to help with the shipping cost to send her to a trainer that is willing to work with her and save her...

Killing her is not the answer...she doesn't deserve this!!

email me at ryan@newpuppypads.com and we can talk

Mindy deserve better!!!!!!!

What makes me want to scream is the word twisting and mind games we have been subjected to. She clearly insinuated in the other thread that she was going to go to the vet and do what he had suggested......and left it open for us to guess, euthanasia.

When we all jumped on that, she denied it and said oh no she would NOT put her to sleep. She then told us some elaborate story.

THEN, at the end of that thread she admitted that the one vet had suggested euthanasia. SO...bottom line that IS what she meant all along.

She has failed Mindy...and I know there will be people who will say not, but I do not for one minute believe she went out of her way to get this pup in a rescue.
So....now she admits she is going to euthanize her. In this case, I hate to say it, but at least it will save Mindy from any more chaos of living in a home with all those pups...two litters to boot! She is "tethered" to her. Yah...ok.

This is a woman who cannot stand to keep puppies beyond 8 weeks at most...she does not have the time (her words, not mine) ...so HOW would we even believe for one minute that she has time to care for a special needs pup like Mindy?

IF this pup DID come from where you said, Karla, my suggestion to you is to NEVER attempt rescue again. You are not a rescuer. You are a breeder who does not even have time to care for your puppies after the age of 8 weeks. (this is on your website, so not my insinuations here)

RIP Mindy...you did not deserve this hell on earth. :(

My advice to her would be to get ALL dogs out of her life since she clearly does not have the time, money and/or patience.

All I can say is karma is a you know what.

So sad that a life had to end like this but as LJ said "RIP Mindy...you did not deserve this hell on earth. :( "
Good advice.

This is really heartbreaking.
I understand she took in this dog from someone else and wasn't aware of the problems involved, what I don't understand is not trying to find training or behavior help from a professional. I understand it costs money, but if you aren't willing or in a position to do so, then turning over to a rescue should have been done long before now.
When we got Camden at 2 1/2yrs of age, she had issues from the way she was living & had been treated. We have gone to training classes, met with a behavior specialist, etc.. She has improved, though some things I think are permanent and this was also the opinion of the behaviorist we consulted with, but I wouldn't have ever dreamed of putting her to sleep!
If you have exhausted all training, behavior, medical options and everyone involved concurs there is no hope for this animal, I guess then tough decisions would have to be made.
But, unless I missed it, she tried working with Mindy herself, but never any professional help, correct? That to me is just unfair to this dog.
At the very least to not pay to ship the dog to rescue or someone who has offered to take her in, I don't get.
Very sad.

and she calls herself a breeder...you would think she has the funds for the litters...why not for Mindy??

I doubt she spends much on her litters. Have you ever seen her website? She cannot wait to get them out of her home. :thumbdown

She may have started out with good intentions in taking Mindy, but it's important for people to understand that when you adopt a dog it may have issues & you need to have a plan on how you are going to handle that financially & otherwise.
Otherwise, you are right, you are failing the animal, pure & simple!
I may have missed it, so someone can correct me, but I never read where she really researched out the costs & options of training, behavior, etc..
I just heard comments about it being expensive & her husband not wanting to put out any money & that she agreed.
I didn't read where she researched the cost of shipping the dog to the those who offered to take her, only guesses at it being too much.
I'm guessing she wanted someone to offer to pay it all, I don't know!
I recall that she wanted to donate to help out Roriee, why in the world would you also not be willing to donate for the help of a dog in your own home!

She did not want to donate. That was NOT her purpose in that thread. I received an extremely nasty pm from her about Roriee about how we should put her to sleep. She never had any intention of donating...she was just being her usual self.

No...whats the website? People need to be aware of her!

www.mychantillylace.com


She has also sold under the name Kardon Cockapoos....there are some Rip Off reports on the web about her.

I believe her last name is Klippanger.

Well I guess that shouldn't surprise me at this point!
In looking at some of her recent posts, she hasn't had a problem buying stylish leashes & dog beds. I'm sure she could have paid for some training or a consultation or something instead!
I could not live with myself if I hadn't exhausted all my options and just put her to sleep.

Mommadog1

If you are still reading this, our trainer here in RI is willing to take Mindy into rescue. Getting her to the east coast would be require donations for the transport but we've already heard from some that they would kick in the cost.

Do not be so heartless - you are incompetent to make the decision to PTS on a behavioral issue and so is your veterinarian unless he/she is also a board certified behaviorist. This is not to insult you or you vet but you are not a behaviorist.

Please do not put Mindy to sleep.

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I would be willing to help with the cost of transport. Hopefully she will respond to someone ... I would suggest emailing her. She left here apparently, so will not be able to respond here.

Jodi has already helped another YT'er with my trainer - I leave the coordination to Jodi as she is an experienced rescuer and I would not pretend to be one. I'm happy to help with the cost of the transport.

PLEASE MOMMADOG1 -- email Jodi and let our trainer here take Mindy. She is highly experienced with aggressive dogs - she's the trainer every other trainer calls when they can't figure it out. That dog would shape up and learn manners in NO TIME. And it doesn't cost you a dime to do this!!!!

Count me in on helping with some$$$$$$.......It is not Mindy's fault that the other humans in her life let her down..please take this offer and do not put her to sleep...please

Mommadog1 is well aware of your trainer in RI. When I offered to help on Monday I told her then if the rescue near her did not work out there was PLAN B which is/was RI. Why she sent me that email this morning saying that she was having Mindy PTS is beyond me! She did have a second option but she closed all communication as well as her YT account. :(