Don't you hate when you are taken for a fool???

[~Yorkie~Mommy~]

Originally Posted by Shanatink

Actually Petedge is considered a manufacturer/wholesaler that chooses to allow the public to buy thier products at wholesale prices. Before people get mad at small dog boutiques like the Haute Dog for their prices, I would just like everyone to know small dog boutiques get to compete with large companies like Target, Petsmart, etc who have all of their products made in factories overseas in mass quantities and put 500-1000% mark up on thier retail prices. You dont get mad at them becuase you can not purchase from thier supplier. Small dog boutiques pay much much more for their products with a lot smaller mark up and have a high overhead with all sorts of business expenses that I never even dreamed about before I got into this business. Also before judging the haute dog by saying they are tripling the price, keep in mind shipping cost are fixed into thier pricing too (this is a price factoring cost people like to forget). For example, say the slipper bed cost $20 wholesale from Petedge, well because of its bulky size, it probobly cost about $10 to be shipped to the retailer so if they mark it up to $60 this is only a one time mark up not 200%. And then out of that $30 that you think they took you for as a fool, out comes a ton of other business expenses (marketing, rent, merchant credit card fees, storage fees, employee wages, website fees, shipping material cost, and many many more business expenses, etc, etc) and I gurantee the haute dog boutique is lucky to make $5 in the end. Sorry if it was a long post, I just wanted to throw that out there. Petedge does have nice products and I highly recommend

[Monday]

Originally Posted by Shanatink

I wasnt able to get onto to that link yesterday but now I finally could. That is not a Petedge brand bed. The bed that Haute Dog is selling is actually a very expensive slipper bed designed by Pawsitively Posh and has been around for as long as I have been in business (so its been around at least 3 years). Petedge actually just came out with thier slipper beds last year, they actually stole the design idea from pawsitively posh. This is something Petedge has been known to do, here is an article about the celltei design they stole: http://www.celltei.com/si1knbyyope.html

the following websites are for are the same "slumber bed" and the prices are way different ...
Just an observation ....
http://www.kooldawgtees.com/dog_beds_2.html
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...temID=5029&ite

Dog Beds, Pads, Orthopedic Pet Beds, Slumber Pet? Chenille Dog Beds, Fido Fleece Cloud Beds

Welcome to PetEdge - Professional Pet Products & Pet Supplies at Wholesale Prices

There are knock offs in all fields especially in the garment business (hence, "you too can wear the dress Nicole Kidman wore")....
We, as consumers, have the right to decide what we are comfortable spending to get same effect or the same product .... Just my opinion .... I did not intend to step on any body's toes ....

[yorkiegirl83]

Originally Posted by Monday

the following websites are for are the same "slumber bed" and the prices are way different ...
Just an observation ....
http://www.kooldawgtees.com/dog_beds_2.html
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...temID=5029&ite

Dog Beds, Pads, Orthopedic Pet Beds, Slumber Pet? Chenille Dog Beds, Fido Fleece Cloud Beds

Welcome to PetEdge - Professional Pet Products & Pet Supplies at Wholesale Prices

There are knock offs in all fields especially in the garment business (hence, "you too can wear the dress Nicole Kidman wore")....
We, as consumers, have the right to decide what we are comfortable spending to get same effect or the same product .... Just my opinion .... I did not intend to step on any body's toes ....

I understand what you're saying totally. I've been an over spender FOREVER and have just recently seen what a little shopping around can do to make such a difference in savings. I've seen so many of the same products at different stores for vastly differing prices. I don't blame the stores for selling them at different prices because that is their decision entirely.. I've just become a bit more of a savvy shopper

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Monday

the following websites are for are the same "slumber bed" and the prices are way different ...
Just an observation ....
http://www.kooldawgtees.com/dog_beds_2.html
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...temID=5029&ite

Dog Beds, Pads, Orthopedic Pet Beds, Slumber Pet? Chenille Dog Beds, Fido Fleece Cloud Beds

Welcome to PetEdge - Professional Pet Products & Pet Supplies at Wholesale Prices

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On the Petedge site, do you notice the crossed out price -- it says Suggested Retail $54.99 -- same as the other site is asking for it. Petedge is suppose to be a wholesale distributor -- they sell to the retail stores. Retail stores CANNOT sell the items for what they pay for them, they usually sell at the Suggested Retail price. Savvy shoppers can cut out the middle man in some cases and order straight from a wholeseller -- but all of them do not allow consumer purchases like Petedge.

[Monday]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

On the Petedge site, do you notice the crossed out price -- it says Suggested Retail $54.99 -- same as the other site is asking for it. Petedge is suppose to be a wholesale distributor -- they sell to the retail stores. Retail stores CANNOT sell the items for what they pay for them, they usually sell at the Suggested Retail price.
I have seen that same "slumber bed" selling for more than $75 at some online boutiques.
Savvy shoppers can cut out the middle man in some cases and order straight from a wholeseller -- but all of them do not allow consumer purchases like Petedge.
But PETEDGE does, so we may as well utilize the site and get the savings.

I do not know what you are trying to say ... Yes, I understand the MSRP, but don't we all haggle with the car salesman? Since "shopping around" has been made easier due to the Internet, I say go for it ... a dollar is always better in my pocket than in someone else's ... do you disagree with that?? I am just talking about being aware! If you knew you could get something for half the price, would you pay twice that?

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Monday

I do not know what you are trying to say ... Yes, I understand the MSRP, but don't we all haggle with the car salesman? Since "shopping around" has been made easier due to the Internet, I say go for it ... a dollar is always better in my pocket than in someone else's ... do you disagree with that?? I am just talking about being aware! If you knew you could get something for half the price, would you pay twice that?

I think we are on different pages of the same book! I was trying to address your original question --"Don't you hate when you are taken for a fool??? " I just do not feel that the small business owners are taking anyone for a fool just because they double their prices. I might shop around and buy from the cheapest place because I need to conserve $$. But I still want to support the small business owner when I can (yes, even if it means spending a little bit more). Why? Because I like having the small business owner around. Small online stores and the "brick and mortar" shops offer a personalized service we will never see at the big wholesale distributors.

Basically I am saying, sure go ahead and shop around but try not to think so badly of the small business person who probably makes a LOT less profit in the long run that that wholesale business.

[Shanatink]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I think we are on different pages of the same book! I was trying to address your original question --"Don't you hate when you are taken for a fool??? " I just do not feel that the small business owners are taking anyone for a fool just because they double their prices. I might shop around and buy from the cheapest place because I need to conserve $$. But I still want to support the small business owner when I can (yes, even if it means spending a little bit more). Why? Because I like having the small business owner around. Small online stores and the "brick and mortar" shops offer a personalized service we will never see at the big wholesale distributors.

Basically I am saying, sure go ahead and shop around but try not to think so badly of the small business person who probably makes a LOT less profit in the long run that that wholesale business.

I agree with what she said. This is basically what I was trying to say and explain too. When I read the title of this thread and read the first post I took it to mean that the poster was saying the haute dog is trying to rip people off, this is why I got defensive.
Yes cutting out the middle man, if possible, will save money and that was a very valid and good point. But what was initially posted and what this whole thread seemed to be based on was two products that are similar but not the same therefore the comparison and point that was trying to be made was not very valid but yet still made the haute dog look bad so I felt I had to defend. The bed being sold by haute dog is the original doggie slipper bed design and yes it cost more but it is made from better materials and built to last and it cost a lot more at wholesale cost than the petedge bed therefore that is why it is being retailed for more, the petedge replica slipper bed is indeed cheaper, but is also not assembled as well, made with lower quality materials, and will not last as long. So its hard to compare the 2 with a statement like "Dont you hate it when you get taken for as a fool?"
88% of the time, you get what you pay for. Occasionally people can get lucky and get an awesome deal on high quality products. But anyways I think I said it better this time and Im sorry if I stepped on anyones toes because I didnt mean to.

[Monday]

Originally Posted by Shanatink

But what was initially posted and what this whole thread seemed to be based on was two products that are similar but not the same therefore the comparison and point that was trying to be made was not very valid but yet still made the haute dog look bad so I felt I had to defend. The bed being sold by haute dog is the original doggie slipper bed design and yes it cost more but it is made from better materials and built to last and it cost a lot more at wholesale cost than the petedge bed therefore that is why it is being retailed for more, the petedge replica slipper bed is indeed cheaper, but is also not assembled as well, made with lower quality materials, and will not last as long. So its hard to compare the 2 with a statement like "Dont you hate it when you get taken for as a fool?".
But anyways I think I said it better this time and Im sorry if I stepped on anyones toes because I didnt mean to.

http://www.kooldawgtees.com/dog_beds_2.html
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...temID=5029&ite
but yet, these are the same exact product ... and yet the price difference is stunning ....and that was the point ... step on anyone's toes??? Didn't I say that???
I believe in free trade, capitalism and competitive pricing Itz just that on line, itz so easy to find the lowest price.
Perhaps I titled the thread incorrectly, my apologies.

[JESSY_RN2B]

I'm a bargain shopper myself. If I see something cheaper elsewhere I will go there. I have however stopped shopping at some places if they have poor customer service.

I do support YT sellers and do atleat 90% of my furkid's shopping here.

[Jenn218]

I too "bargain" shop....with everything! I have seen toys from PetEdge for sale elsewhere for the price that PetEdge recommends for retailers.....that is fine w/ me....but I buy them from PetEdge for next to nothing first. I have never bought clothes from PetEdge, but I have bought other products and have been happy with them. I am bad about seeing something that I want and then hitting the internet (not really eBay), but other internet sites to see where it is cheaper....isn't that bad. OR if I am in a hurry for the item, I will more then likely pay a higher price for it instead of shopping around.....it too just depends on the customer service and how much they charge for shipping, etc.

It is a dogs market for sure! You make a killing on maternity and children clothing and stuff and dog stuff....the top three sellers anywhere! People will buy what the want and what they need no matter what. Or they can look somewhere else.

What gets me is the gas prices - wow! You want to talk about making some money......those gas companies are making a fortune!!! Gas went up and then finally went back down to right at $2 and now it shot back up to almost $2.50 - that is nonsense!!!

[jencar98]

I love a bargain as well as the next customer. Also though, I like doing business with smaller more personable businesses. To me it is important to support a small business person, especially made in America goods, even if the price is slightly higher. Good customer service is worth a little extra and I don't mind paying a marked up (not jacked up) price.

[Shanatink]

Originally Posted by Monday

http://www.kooldawgtees.com/dog_beds_2.html
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/prod...temID=5029&ite
but yet, these are the same exact product ... and yet the price difference is stunning ....and that was the point ... step on anyone's toes??? Didn't I say that???
I believe in free trade, capitalism and competitive pricing Itz just that on line, itz so easy to find the lowest price.
Perhaps I titled the thread incorrectly, my apologies.

LIke my post said, I am refering to the initial post only (post #1 in this thread).

[sassypup]

I asked Pawsitively Posh about this and she told me she read that Petedge has almost a 50% return rate on this bed and she has almost zero. She stands by 100% of all her products. I think it's such a shame that a company like that would take designs from another. The owners of Pawsitively's attorney and Petedge's attorney had to deal with this 'knock off' situation but at the end, their attorneys were no match for their numerous staff lawyers. At the end of the day, it's about the little business that have to compete with the larger,you get what you pay for in terms of all products in my opinion and customer service. I am in NO way saying anything negative about Petedge, just what I've heard.