WalMart dresses ~ Lulupink
 

Just felt compelled to write a wey bit of history as I know it in regards to different pricing between little boutique's pricing versus WalMart, and the like. In the past I have done millions of dollars with WalMart (ladies wholesale) with manufacturing companies that I worked for. WalMart writes HUGE orders, and either you meet their prices or you don’t get the business. They plan out their business up to a year before the garments hit the floor. During that time manufactures negotiate everything they can down to the penny, literally. When you are dealing with 100 of thousands of garments pennies do count. Most manufacturers want their business because the volume makes up for the low profit margin, but man, they are a pain in the ass to deal with. They call the shots, and everything that goes into their stores is run through a vigorous quality control program. The majority of manufacturers will sell to them under their (Walmart) brand label, and sell to other stores using their “better” label. WalMart on occasion will demand the “better” label, and depending on the company they will normally get what they want. Those huge orders are very hard to turn down no matter who you are.

Anyway, the purpose of my post is one must realize that the small boutiques here are not getting WalMart wholesale prices, they are being charged the max as most businesses here are small. They get no breaks as to wholesale prices. I can almost assure you, the retail prices being paid for a dress at WalMart is more than likely less then what our merchants here are buying the dresses for wholesale. It’s just the way business works, so what some might see as an outrageous markup, probably is not really the case. The bottom line is please don’t judge our small boutiques prices as being absorbenant as compared to WalMart, they are not getting the same wholesale prices, and just trying to make a living. As a vendor I would be plenty po’d if I bought the line and had no idea WalMart would be carrying the same thing……..

In the meantime I did go to WalMart this am and bought a few Lulupink dresses, they are adorable, so this thread is not about not getting a good deal, it’s about realizing what goes on behind the scenes and understanding what the small business owner is dealing with in many cases.

I can completely understand their situation, but people are going to shop where they can get the best deal for their dollar. That's just a fact of life. I don't think our vendors are trying to rip us off, but keep a float.

:yeahthat: I don't really think it was about businesses doing high prices but that people will go where the items are cheaper... And just because someone say the will go to the cheaper place doesn't mean they are trying to hurt the other business. If someone mentions a cheaper place then I will try it out. They weren't trying to hurt anyone just point a person to a cheaper direction...

I can definitely understand that small businesses can't sell for the same price as larger businesses.

I don't see them as trying to rip anyone off. Plus, any store can mark their products up to what they want and that's their business. If people choose to buy at that price, then that is great -- and the prices of items vary so much from store to store that I can walk through my mall from store to store and find 4 different prices on the same item. And, I definitely don't think Sears is ripping me off because Bon Ton has the thing I want cheaper. It's just how it happens.

I don't think that posting a great deal though was trying to hurt someone's business. I would be excited too if I saw Lulu Pink in Walmart for a fraction of the cost I normally see it at. There are only so many clothes I can buy for my furkids, having multiple ones so when I see great deals I get super excited because i can buy more -- so I think it was just someone being nice and trying to help out others, not someone being rude or hurtful to anyone else.

Perhaps my post is being misinterpreted...... I was only giving a synopsis, nothing more, nothing less of what a small business owner is up against....

It was NOT personal against anyone........Geez...I'm all for a great deal, and did buy Lulu at WalMart this AM. Where I said someone was trying to hurt someone else's business in my post is beyond me.........

Walmart has Lulu pink ??? Where ?

Agree! We all know that she wasn't trying to hurt businesses but trying to show us a great deal. And we understand about why items are priced at such because of what that business was charged at wholesale determines how much the consumer has to pay/being charged...

Some people might post about how the way she went about it was wrong and blah blah blah, but till they know it was a mistake and houldn't dwell on it because she learned and many others have, too.

Either way, I don't think this tread should have been created. What ever happened should be between them two. I think this thread might get unwanted attention and think this should be close. It's just asking for trouble.

Oh I know but I was saying that because when people read this they will go back to 'that' thread...

I agree!!:thumbup: :thumbup:

Sorry but i don't think the person was trying to do anything wrong it was an honest attempt to help other yt members out on getting a good deal. Some venders get great prices for some of thier wholesale products and choose to raise the price after to sell and that is their right but it doesn't mean that anyone should come on and bash and threaten someone for finding a good deal else where. I have looked into whole selling and it's ridiculous for some things for ex..
You buy a shirt at wholesale price of $7.99 and then you turn around and sell it for $36.99:eek: sorry but if i find the same shirt for $12.00 i will buy it at that price. Sorry but if walmart carries it for a cheaper price then i guess everyone will have to lower their prices or not carry the item anymore but don't come on here being rude to someone for finding a good deal. JUst MPO

Just felt compelled to write a wey bit of history as I know it in regards to different pricing between little boutique's pricing versus WalMart, and the like.

I agree... when I was collecting Barbie dolls I originally had to buy certain ones at Mattel approved doll stores, high end stores or buy them directly through Mattel. These dolls were higher priced and simply not available anywhere else. THEN all of a sudden Sam's Club had a Calvin Klein Barbie for $25 when we had paid $89.95 plus shipping!!! Not only was that the decline of the "Limited Edition" Barbies (obviously) but the value of these dolls dropped and they have never recovered.

I didn't buy for resale - only my own pleasure but as you can imagine I was furious with Mattel. Time and time again it was happening. We all learned to wait for these to come out at WalMart, Sam's Club or simply on clearance. What a shame - greed caused the demise of this American Icon. Not WalMart - but Mattel's!!! Once something is mass produced it's not longer a Limited Edition and valuable.

It's only been in the last year or two that Mattel has tried to go back to limiting the number of dolls being made and they are now color coded (ie silver, gold, pink etc). Problem is... now no one believes that they won't do it again and no one is buying these high end dolls.

BTW the dolls stores were paying more for their dolls than WalMart, Sam's etc and in the end many stores went under because of it.

We all like a good deal, and we all want to pay less - it's the big companies/manufacturers that are making the money! :(
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:thumbup: The way she went about saying he shouldn't have done that was RUDE. and she knew it was a mistake, too but still she was saying it wasn't right... She got it already!

But still, IT'S OVER!

That other thread is gone for Pete's sake, this has NOTHING to do with that, I am just as much up for a good deal as everyone else. My post last night only had to do with using links, I think it was more than fair........I just thought some people might want to know what it takes to deal with big business.............But if it's taken personal, so be it, I just don't get it......as it was NOT about that........

You say it is not about that but people will THINK it was about that. Why post a thread about the dress in the first place (in the title) and not just say wholesale?! That's why I say it should be close because people will think of how it relates to that tread. And I am not the only one that is relating them, too! I am not trying to argue so I won't go back to that thread, is that OK?

I agree that big business hurt small busnisses it happens everyday. I also think that if anyone is going to be upset they should be upset at the business not the person that found the deal.
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BTW there was more than one link listed to other sites it was merly IMO a link to show what the dress looked like but it got blowwn out of proportion

Oops forgot to mention that I did pick up a couple things for the kids. I just happened to notice that Lulu Pink and WalMart's brand name SimplyDog are made by the same manufacturer....

Why should anyone be upset with her? Maybe something is going on that I am unaware of, and perhaps that is why many are so passionate with their answers. If that is the case, I had no clue and would not have created a thread......:(

I'm sorry i hope i didn't offend you that wasn't my intention:(


I am really just tired of all the cattyness and bickering on YT latley i mean geeze i feel like i'm in highscholl all over again.

Yeah, I just read my other post (on this thread) and realized that I was very rude and wanted to apologize... Sorry that I posted my opinions the wrong way!:D

It’s quite all right. After leaving the Fashion Industry after 20+ years I just felt I could give some insight on something I knew about other than Yorkies. I meant no harm to anyone, perhaps just bad timing……..

I think perhaps bad timing lol.. but i feel like yt has become so bad latley with all the fights and rudeness that this really needs to be addressed. No one has the right to be rude, bash, humiliate or make fun of anyone we are supposed to be adults coming together to enjoy share knowledge and help eachother with the yorkie breed not sit and knit pic everyone for not having the same thoughts as everyone else. If we all believed the same thing then this site would be no fun we would be robot drones so we need to respect eachother.. I am sorry for venting this here and maybe i should start my own thread about it,,:rolleyes:

I hope no one thought I was rude :) I was just trying to say I see both sides of the situation. Big Business, Small Business, Customers :)

Well Surfie and Tiki, Thank you for your insight on how Walmart does business. You did clear up some questions that I had from reading the first thread.

Yeap! And Max a Million which they had none of for Surfie, dang nabbit! Poor neglected guy........:p

I e-mailed LuLu Pink last night about their fall line and Walmart because I've been doing the ordering for the dog boutique here for the past year. It REALLy dissapoints me to hear of LULU Pink being sold at Walmart. I just think it is so wrong :( They were such a great designer brand that could only be found in smaller dog boutiques...and now they are mass producing for Walmart..I mean WHY??? They are going to ruin their designer name. And what dog boutiques are going to buy from them anymore...when lulu pink is charging them 15 dollars for a shirt (wholesale) when it can be bought at walmart for 8.00 retail! Mostly because they paid 15.00 for that shirt meaning they sell it for 30.00 (common markup at dog boutiques is to charge twice the amount you bought it for)...so who is going to buy it at 30.00 when they can get it at walmart for 8? BTW I absolutely HATE Walmart...hate hate hate it. It has ruined small businesses...so sad...and ruined small towns across America, including the one I grew up in. It also basically ruined my family's grocery store business...

Anyway, I don't blame anyone one bit for buying a dress at Walmart for $8.00 instead of paying $30 at a dog boutique. I'd do the same thing...a good deal is a good deal. But from the view of someone who works at a dog boutique and orders for it, I'm pretty upset at LuLu Pink...

Im a little confused here..You hate walmart,ruined small businesses ,lulu pink shouldn't sell their line at walmart but you would but one from there.Did I read that right?

I think she was saying she would go with the great deal, too. But since she doesn't like walmart she wouldn't go there.... but I might be wrong!:D

I was saying that if I wanted a dress and saw it somewhere for $30 and then saw it somewhere else for $8.00 then I'd buy it at the place that had the lowest price too.

I hardly ever set foot in a walmart unless I need to go for something specific. I've gone to look at fabric recently and had to go there a couple months ago because it was one of the only places open at midnight, and I bought Lacy's birthday cake there because they have really yummy cakes. I do hate walmart but there are rare times I need to go there (I do try to go somewhere else if I can). If there is a LuLu Pink dress I want for Lacy and I can get it at Walmart for a really cheap price, I'd buy it...as much as I hate walmart, I'd rather have the dress. Sucks that I have to go somewhere I hate to get a good deal and get what I want...

You and me both, I don't care for WalMart at all. I have stepped in WalMart all of three times in my life, (considering my age, that's saying a lot :p ) all three times was for some great deal on some little dress/shirt I saw on YT. Sometimes I just need that little "fix" when I shouldn't being spending money on Tiki's custom clothes. I know I am forgiven as 90% of their wardrobe has come from vendors here........To the dog section, and out I go.......
Then there was the Target Christmas doggie sale last year, that was a whole different story. I HOPE they have one this year as well, those were great deals at $2.50 a piece.......

Sorry guys everyone was a little upset from my thread and they thought your were probably basing this thread on my thread from what was said on there.
I understand completely were dog boutiques are coming from! i wanted to actually open one of my own one day but I mean if something is coming out at walmart everyone is eventually going to see it unless their walmart is like the one by my house and doesnt carry anything! So yeah if you sell lulu pink then you probably wont sell too much more of that in your dog boutique because there is somewhere with a better price and its not the persons whos buying its fault its the producers fault! Walmart is right by my house so we of course are going to go where its more convienent for us so we do go to walmart. Im actually glad in a not dog boutique owners view that they are selling lulu pink at walmart! Im 20 a i work hard hard for my money and do have tons of bills but i still have to have cute stuff for my dogs.

And in another view the boutiques may still have great sell for lulu pink because some rich people wont step foot in walmart, kmart, krogers, cvs where this brand is being sold!

Thanks for this thread tho i didnt know dog boutiques got their wholesale at higher prices!

Why do I have the crappiest wal-mart in the whole world in my town? No LULU here!