Hey I love....where is Consantine? We are in Owosso.....near Lansing...

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Constantine is about 45 minutes south of Kalamazoo on US131...sorry I base things on the time it takes me to get there rather than miles...lol...but I go to Western Michigan University and I just need to know what time to be out of the house by to make it to school on time! :D

I couldn't agree more :thumbup:

Not trying to be a pain here at all. But what is a low price pet? $800, $1200, $2000, over the years it's pennies a day. I'd rather pay a bit more and know the breeder and her line. Mixes, if you want em, who am I to stop you? but I'd still want the same information.

I dont know I guess its just me....... Im not really crazy about these cross breeds. Some of them look rather scary. I thought the labradoodle pic was creepy. Im sorry if offending anyone. :(

I don't feel like reading all three pages, but I just wanted to comment... I agree with you on most of your points. Why would someone want a Poodle/Lab mix? I think the answer is because Labs shed way too freaking much. I had a black lab for 15 years and LOVED it so much. The hair didn't bother me too much. A lot of people, however, have a problem with the hair; many of these babies end up in shelters because their so-called family had problems with the amount of hair.

I love mutts and do not think of that word as derogatory . Any mixed breed is a mutt. It's like calling a white person white instead of caucasian. "White" could be considered derogatory as well. Mixed, mutt, whatever. They all deserved to be adopted.

Thanks!
I know that this thread has caught more attention than any other YT post to date, kinda amazing since there have been other "hot" topics such as housebreaking and teacups. Makes me wonder. Any ideas guys?

There is something I have neglected to say about these mixes which came out more clearly in the discussion, on another thread, concerning a person who was looking for a Yorkie/Maltese mix. I hope what I am posting now can give some clarity to this issue:

A number of people, including the person who started the thread on the Yorkese/Morkie, mentioned that they beleive that by mixing a Yorkie with a Maltese, they could get the "best" of each, or a "little" of both. Many of these people said how much they love both breeds and how cool it could be if they could combine them together. Well, temperment wise, the two breeds are distinct, so even if this could be the case, it would not actually work. You'd have to choose between one or the other. But honestly, it doesn't worth that way anyhow.

Have you ever noticed that parents can have children that look nothing like either of them? How do two brown haired parents wind up with blond kids or vice versa? Supposed Mom has the genetic material from brown hair, let's call that "B" and a recessive gene for blond hair "b," so "Bb". She is brunette but carries the genetic material to be a blond. You can't tell from looking at her, but its there. Same thing with dad: "B" and "b." What happens when you mix these two people together? There is a 25% chance that thier offspring (kids) will be blond "bb"! The same is true with dogs. The reason breeders breed "close" to thier lines is to concentrate certain genes so they are expressed in the puppies. The further you go from this "concentration" the bigger the genetic pool, hodge podge you draw from, more likely parents will be hetrozygous for certain traits which will be expressed in the puppies. That can be good, that can be bad. The trouble is, you don't know what you are going to get.

I remember as a kid working at the North Shore Animal League, in the "puppy" room. People would constantly ask me "what kind of dog is it and how big will it get?" Well, looking at a beagle shepherd mix, I had a bit of a problem. Yes, usually, you can get a very rough estimate from the size of the puppies paws, but when you have a hound dog mixed with a shepherd, all bets are off! Will the puppy wind up looking like a beagle with oversized paws or will he grow into those paws and look like a shepherd? Who knows? Quite the contrary of people's assumptions where this is concerned, a Yorkie Maltese mix or a Lab Poodle mix could look like and act like something completely different than either parent. Furthermore, and the reason I am posting this here - when you out-cross, even within the same breed, say Yorkies, your puppies can be substantially bigger than either parent. This is another reason that Yorkie breeders breed "close" to thier lines. Remember, that Yorkies are desended from MUCH bigger terriers (15-20 pounds). So, in the Yorkie genetic material is the blueprint of these bigger dogs. Cross a Yorkie with a Maltese and you may find yourself with a little dog, who isn't so little!

I think a lot of people come to this thread through a search on Labradoodle or Yorkipoo!

I just read through this whole thread and had to laugh. I know quite a few people that have paid through the nose for the new "designer" mixes.

As I have stated many time, I work for a dog grooming salon, and I see manu mixes come in. here are some examples;

pug/beagle-$1200
lab/newfie-$950
westie/maltese-$1400 (westies in this area go for about $500)
yorkie/poodle-$1000
newfie/great dane-$2500 (yes $2500, supposed to be droolless and non-shedding, how I dont know since both breeds shed)
rottie/st.bernard-$1399 (another one that isn't supposed to drool, how I dont know since rotties drool, not all but most)

Most of these dogs have been purchased at the local Petland store that I am not allowed in anymore since me and my big mouth kinda said some things when the store was PACKED with people and over half of them left after my mouth decided to get a little outta control. (It does that sometimes :rolleyes: )

Well, I sure do love my wee Yorkipoo. He's almost two now, and just gets smarter and sweeter as he grows up. But $1000?? You've got to be kidding. I paid his mom's owner $60 for the breeding costs.

--Annie

although Oreo isn't a poo mix..

he's a Yorkie/Pomeranian mix that i payed 300 and don't regret it at all.

IMO he's not a designer mix of any kind, although he was accidental, i'm glad that their accident was my gain, which some of you might disagree. the parents of Oreo have been neutered/spayed so im really happy i got such a big package in such a little doggie.

Oreo is a mutt and i love it. Ginger is purebred, I lover her too!.. its crazy to see all these designer type dogs that i've never heard of.. but they are all so cute!

<<A number of people, including the person who started the thread on the Yorkese/Morkie, mentioned that they beleive that by mixing a Yorkie with a Maltese, they could get the "best" of each, or a "little" of both. Many of these people said how much they love both breeds and how cool it could be if they could combine them together. Well, temperment wise, the two breeds are distinct, so even if this could be the case, it would not actually work. You'd have to choose between one or the other. But honestly, it doesn't worth that way anyhow.>>

Actually, what I've observed in my yorkipoo and his extended family is that the terrier temperament is dominant. Any dog that's part Yorkie will probably act like a terrier.

What you're likely to get in a Yorkie/poodle mix is a lot of brains and terrier temperament, in other words a real handful to raise, but barrels of fun as long as you can keep the upper hand :aimeeyork

[QUOTE=Annie_A]<<A number of people, including the person who started the thread on the Yorkese/Morkie, mentioned that they beleive that by mixing a Yorkie with a Maltese, they could get the "best" of each, or a "little" of both. Many of these people said how much they love both breeds and how cool it could be if they could combine them together. Well, temperment wise, the two breeds are distinct, so even if this could be the case, it would not actually work. You'd have to choose between one or the other. But honestly, it doesn't worth that way anyhow.>>

Actually, what I've observed in my yorkipoo and his extended family is that the terrier temperament is dominant. Any dog that's part Yorkie will probably act like a terrier.

I think that depends a lot on the lines you are using and the individual genome of the dogs in question. The point I was making is that with heterozygous genes, you are getting a jumble of what you know is there -because these genes are expressed, and what you don’t know is there - because the genes are recessive. In addition, there are a few other factors to consider, one I mentioned already, that certain traits simply are not compatible so one will be expressed over the other - dominance and passivity are perfect examples. With a dominant/alpha bitch and beta dog, which way will the puppies come out? While, I'd be contradicting some of previous posts to say that you can't ever have both expressed in the same dog (not going to go into detail on that here), I'll generalize here and say, each dog has a greater tendency in one direction vs. the other that leads us to label him or her one or the other and, generally, it would be contradictory to say that they are both expressed. I think this is exactly what you are saying in your post about the terrier traits being dominant over the more passive Maltese/toy spaniel traits your Yorkie-Poos lines. The other thing to consider, because it was beyond the scope of my previous posts, is the recombination of genes. During meiosis, genes may actually split and recombine creating wholly new characteristics in the offspring. This goes beyond Mendel (the thing I did with the little letters and the big letters), but it is something to also consider. Needless to say, if you are breeding two parents with very similar genes, recombination is probably not going to have the same impact as with parents of totally different backgrounds. There’s also the trump card – linked genes. Hip displasia is terribly difficult to get “rid” of because it is caused by a series of genes, and not a single trait. But less dramatic, certain other traits, such as the Yorkie coloring are also expressed this way.

So this is a long way of saying that – in your dog’s family, the terriers are probably holding the dominant cards and that is how the genes are falling into place. But I’d be wary of advising others that in all cases, the puppies of a mix between a poodle and a Yorkie will be terrier like. It’s actually interesting to see what can happen. A Yorkie and Maltese breeder (no, she breeds them separately as AKC show dogs and never breeds Yorkie-Maltese mixes) friend of mine was explaining to me that she uses different training techniques with her Maltese and her Yorkies. Reason being, their temperaments are so different! I started to laugh when she described these differences (this isn’t all she said – but here are some highlights and I’ll explain in a minute why I am making them the highlights):

Maltese:

Sweet, happy-go-lucky
Clingy, needy,
Strong desire to please

Yorkie:
Smart
Independent
Will hold a grudge
Brain like an elephant
Feisty

Bun has some of the worst traits of both groups! He’s got a napoleon complex that has earned him a reputation in the agility world (ah oh, Hide your Border Collie – here comes Bun!). He’s also extremely clingy and has separation anxiety. He’s SUPER smart (it is amazing what he can learn in a single training session), remembers everything – good or bad, and yet will jump through a ring of fire if I ask him to (even when he was slowly dying from his Addison’s disease, he continued to work for me, which only masked his symptoms). The reason I’ve done so well with him is because his Maltese traits make him extremely bitable but he also can drive you insane. He wont let you rest in the evening and demands your constant attention. He goes into a panic attack if you leave him alone in his crate – we’ve been working on that for three years and I’m a dog trainer! IT is obvious that the woman who gave him up truly loved him because she waited to get him into a no-kill shelter and he showed signs of having strong attachment to people from the onset. But he was also loony and will probably always be a bit loopy. He’s one of the most amazing dogs I’ve ever owned but I understand why the elderly woman who had him before me could not keep him – he is a full time job on to himself! You don’t get to pick which traits you get in a mix – you get what you get!