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Breny · 08-15-2006, 10:38 AM

It sure is an up and down hill. Last night she had me worried. She seemed to be struggling breathing but then she was fine. She breathes much better with her mouth open but she doesn't know that yet. Her most clear breaths are when she falls to sleep with the bottle in her mouth. Still no luck with the whole eating and drinking on her own thing. I came home for lunch today and she had poo all over her. She still has mushy poo. The other have tiny logs

She has it even on the top of her head! At what age did you bathe Joker?

What does Joker weigh today? Does he have any special needs as of now?

I think the nutrical is helping with her weight. I'm adding it now to every new bottle I make up.

I took pics last night. I will post them, hopefully tonight.

Breny · 08-15-2006, 02:32 PM

Well this is Tia. I took them last night

Sadie's Mom · 08-15-2006, 03:35 PM

SHe's soooooooooooo cute!

luvdorkyyorkies · 08-16-2006, 04:41 AM

Oh My God! She is completely precious and looks like a girl too! Look at those big bright snappy eyes. Her hair looks like white velvet. From the pictures she looks healthy and you would never know the first thing is wrong. How much does she weigh? She looks very little.
I gave Joker a bath around 7 1/2 weeks. I should have gave him one sooner but I was really afraid to chill him. He felt so much better after I bathed him and he didnt mind the blow dry at all. He hates to be brushed though and squeels like a pig and tries to bite you! He doesnt have top teeth in the front, just the canines so its more like a gumming....hee hee. I just weighed him and he weighs 1 b 7 ozs at a lil over 14 weeks old. He loves to go for car rides and loves walking to the barn with us. Its a long walk too but he does great.
He is weaned to dry food now, but I treat him to his canned and milkshake every other day or so.
Is he special needs? No but we are now!!!! We walk with a shuffling gait now anytime he is out. I have a 4 yr old and 2 yr old so I cant let him out all the time which I want to do. But my two yr old is a danger to him. My 4 yr old is like an old pro though and is exceptional with him. He is doing pretty good with potty training too.
SOmetimes I think about placing him but it tugs at my heart just the thought. I imagine him in a child free enviroment with free rein of the house, spoiled rotten. Going on car rides and ruling the roost. He may have started out special needs but now he is just special. I dont even consider him having surgery now because he hasnt problems now, it appears to be purely cosmetic now. THe risks would not be worth surgery to close his cleft lip. Once you get used to it Its really kinda cute

Keep me posted on cutie pie Tia!!!

Breny · 08-16-2006, 07:12 AM

Did Joker ever fight his feeding. Last night and this morning Tia is fighting it. I get so worried when tis happens! She still isn't takeing milk from the bowl

luvdorkyyorkies · 08-16-2006, 07:39 AM

Yes he did fight the formula feedings when i tried to increase them. But he fought very little when introduced the first few minutes to formula, he willing took it, he was so hungry all the time. He let you know when he had enough. I dont think he ever enjoyed the syringe feedings at all, but reluctantly drank them because it was the only food source he had.
Do you see an increase in TIas weight? How much does she weigh? Could she be sneaking dry food now since she is fighting feedings more and more?

Breny · 08-16-2006, 12:08 PM

Last week she actually lost a little. I started adding Nutrical to her bottle and I think its helping. She's about 12 oz. No I don't think she's touching her hard food. She's very bull headed when she wants to be. I went home for lunch and she ate better. Maybe when she fights, she just isn't hungry???? But gosh, I'd think she'd be starving all the time.

I've seperated her all the way. They just beat the crap out of her. Its like as soon as they see her she's a target. I know she doesn't like to be alone in her area. Sometimes I think she'd rather just get out of her area and be with someone rather than eat. She loves it when I put her on the floor to play. She has a ball. She deffinatly acts way different than the others. She very fast moving, hyper like. The others are fat little blobs

They are more slow moving and are like, whatever

When you pick them up, tails wag and they give kisses. She's not like that. I've never seen her tail wag. Is that becasue she's so far behind?

Sunday will be 6 weeks.

RoxyJosMom · 08-16-2006, 12:39 PM

OMG, Tia is absolutely the most adorable little baby I think I've ever seen!. She is barely bigger than the chair roller. How could anyone say a special baby should be put down and never given a chance to have the life and love it deserves. Kudos to anyone that devotes so much time and energy to giving that chance to a "not so perfect" baby. Prayers to all of you and your precious little angels. May they have long and happy lives.

Breny · 08-16-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyJosMom

OMG, Tia is absolutely the most adorable little baby I think I've ever seen!. She is barely bigger than the chair roller. How could anyone say a special baby should be put down and never given a chance to have the life and love it deserves. Kudos to anyone that devotes so much time and energy to giving that chance to a "not so perfect" baby. Prayers to all of you and your precious little angels. May they have long and happy lives.

Thank you

I'm trying with all my might

Breny · 08-16-2006, 06:17 PM

So Tia is still fighting the bottle tonight. I don't know what to do!!!!!!!! I tried the syringe. She hates that too. I guess if she gets hungry enough, she'll take it? Am I over reacting? Is just she sooo skinny. The only good feeding today was at lunch. She's sleeping alot tonight. My gosh I'd think she'd be hungry???

Breny · 08-17-2006, 04:55 AM

She ate a little bit (she fought it again)through the night. At 1am and 4am then this morning at 7:30am I tried and she fought it, so I decided to try the syringe again, this time forcing 4 cc's into her. I felt so bad because that really makes it come out her nose. But she has to eat! Other than that she's acting the same. She doesn't seem sick and I know she's not eating anything else.

What do I do! I'm not calling my vet because I've been on my own with her from day one. All's he has ever said was to keep doing what I'm doing.

I'm so frustrated, upset, and worn out. I just want her well!!!!!!!!

Breny · 08-17-2006, 06:25 PM

I also noticed she hasn't pooped in 2 days. She's acting very normal, nothing has changed there. Her eating is just low. She ate pretty ok at her last feeding but the rest of the day was all forced.

Did joker do this as well? She's come so far, I just don't want her to go downhill.

Her siblings are sleeping right now so I just put her in there with them but she's only happy when I have her out with me. She HATES being in by herself, but I have no other choice. Her siblings are now about triple her size. They are like two of her high. And triple her in weight. (although they aren't eating on their own either and mom doesn't spend very much time with them)

Ohhh I just need some positive reinforcement....very much so!!!

Breny · 08-17-2006, 07:23 PM

I just took this. See the difference!!!!

Breny · 08-17-2006, 07:32 PM

just tried to feed again. No luck. she fights so hard! I just feel like giving up!

luvdorkyyorkies · 08-18-2006, 07:56 AM

Breny,
Im so sorry the last few days have been so discouraging!

Yes Joker was the same, three times smaller then his brothers. As he got stronger he fought force feedings, thats why I went to the cup of formula. It took a brief time but he responded to lapping on his own. I force fed him until then, but as mentioned earlier he would take the syringe of formula in the first few minutes willingly.
I know you are completely frustrated but dont give up. If she isnt getting enough nourishment I would definitely think your weight would be plummeting and her energy level at a real slow.
Still no interest in canned food? Have you tried mighty dog or lil cesars? These arent the best canned foods i the world but they sure are good for getting puppies to eat for first times.
Are you still consistently offering formula in a cup?
Let me know how she is today.

08-15-2006, 10:38 AM	#31
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	It sure is an up and down hill. Last night she had me worried. She seemed to be struggling breathing but then she was fine. She breathes much better with her mouth open but she doesn't know that yet. Her most clear breaths are when she falls to sleep with the bottle in her mouth. Still no luck with the whole eating and drinking on her own thing. I came home for lunch today and she had poo all over her. She still has mushy poo. The other have tiny logs She has it even on the top of her head! At what age did you bathe Joker? What does Joker weigh today? Does he have any special needs as of now? I think the nutrical is helping with her weight. I'm adding it now to every new bottle I make up. I took pics last night. I will post them, hopefully tonight. __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-15-2006, 03:35 PM	#33
Sadie's Mom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 3,180	SHe's soooooooooooo cute! __________________ Christie and Sadie

08-16-2006, 07:12 AM	#35
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Fighting feeding Did Joker ever fight his feeding. Last night and this morning Tia is fighting it. I get so worried when tis happens! She still isn't takeing milk from the bowl __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-16-2006, 12:08 PM	#37
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Last week she actually lost a little. I started adding Nutrical to her bottle and I think its helping. She's about 12 oz. No I don't think she's touching her hard food. She's very bull headed when she wants to be. I went home for lunch and she ate better. Maybe when she fights, she just isn't hungry???? But gosh, I'd think she'd be starving all the time. I've seperated her all the way. They just beat the crap out of her. Its like as soon as they see her she's a target. I know she doesn't like to be alone in her area. Sometimes I think she'd rather just get out of her area and be with someone rather than eat. She loves it when I put her on the floor to play. She has a ball. She deffinatly acts way different than the others. She very fast moving, hyper like. The others are fat little blobs They are more slow moving and are like, whatever When you pick them up, tails wag and they give kisses. She's not like that. I've never seen her tail wag. Is that becasue she's so far behind? Sunday will be 6 weeks. __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-16-2006, 06:17 PM	#40
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	So Tia is still fighting the bottle tonight. I don't know what to do!!!!!!!! I tried the syringe. She hates that too. I guess if she gets hungry enough, she'll take it? Am I over reacting? Is just she sooo skinny. The only good feeding today was at lunch. She's sleeping alot tonight. My gosh I'd think she'd be hungry??? __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-16-2006, 04:41 AM	#34
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Oh My God! She is completely precious and looks like a girl too! Look at those big bright snappy eyes. Her hair looks like white velvet. From the pictures she looks healthy and you would never know the first thing is wrong. How much does she weigh? She looks very little. I gave Joker a bath around 7 1/2 weeks. I should have gave him one sooner but I was really afraid to chill him. He felt so much better after I bathed him and he didnt mind the blow dry at all. He hates to be brushed though and squeels like a pig and tries to bite you! He doesnt have top teeth in the front, just the canines so its more like a gumming....hee hee. I just weighed him and he weighs 1 b 7 ozs at a lil over 14 weeks old. He loves to go for car rides and loves walking to the barn with us. Its a long walk too but he does great. He is weaned to dry food now, but I treat him to his canned and milkshake every other day or so. Is he special needs? No but we are now!!!! We walk with a shuffling gait now anytime he is out. I have a 4 yr old and 2 yr old so I cant let him out all the time which I want to do. But my two yr old is a danger to him. My 4 yr old is like an old pro though and is exceptional with him. He is doing pretty good with potty training too. SOmetimes I think about placing him but it tugs at my heart just the thought. I imagine him in a child free enviroment with free rein of the house, spoiled rotten. Going on car rides and ruling the roost. He may have started out special needs but now he is just special. I dont even consider him having surgery now because he hasnt problems now, it appears to be purely cosmetic now. THe risks would not be worth surgery to close his cleft lip. Once you get used to it Its really kinda cute Keep me posted on cutie pie Tia!!!

08-16-2006, 07:39 AM	#36
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Yes he did fight the formula feedings when i tried to increase them. But he fought very little when introduced the first few minutes to formula, he willing took it, he was so hungry all the time. He let you know when he had enough. I dont think he ever enjoyed the syringe feedings at all, but reluctantly drank them because it was the only food source he had. Do you see an increase in TIas weight? How much does she weigh? Could she be sneaking dry food now since she is fighting feedings more and more?

08-16-2006, 12:39 PM	#38
RoxyJosMom Love The Verminator! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ny Posts: 4,282	OMG, Tia is absolutely the most adorable little baby I think I've ever seen!. She is barely bigger than the chair roller. How could anyone say a special baby should be put down and never given a chance to have the life and love it deserves. Kudos to anyone that devotes so much time and energy to giving that chance to a "not so perfect" baby. Prayers to all of you and your precious little angels. May they have long and happy lives.

08-17-2006, 04:55 AM	#41
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Update She ate a little bit (she fought it again)through the night. At 1am and 4am then this morning at 7:30am I tried and she fought it, so I decided to try the syringe again, this time forcing 4 cc's into her. I felt so bad because that really makes it come out her nose. But she has to eat! Other than that she's acting the same. She doesn't seem sick and I know she's not eating anything else. What do I do! I'm not calling my vet because I've been on my own with her from day one. All's he has ever said was to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm so frustrated, upset, and worn out. I just want her well!!!!!!!! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-17-2006, 06:25 PM	#42
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Another Update I also noticed she hasn't pooped in 2 days. She's acting very normal, nothing has changed there. Her eating is just low. She ate pretty ok at her last feeding but the rest of the day was all forced. Did joker do this as well? She's come so far, I just don't want her to go downhill. Her siblings are sleeping right now so I just put her in there with them but she's only happy when I have her out with me. She HATES being in by herself, but I have no other choice. Her siblings are now about triple her size. They are like two of her high. And triple her in weight. (although they aren't eating on their own either and mom doesn't spend very much time with them) Ohhh I just need some positive reinforcement....very much so!!! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-17-2006, 07:32 PM	#44
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	just tried to feed again. No luck. she fights so hard! I just feel like giving up! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

08-18-2006, 07:56 AM	#45
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Breny, Im so sorry the last few days have been so discouraging! Yes Joker was the same, three times smaller then his brothers. As he got stronger he fought force feedings, thats why I went to the cup of formula. It took a brief time but he responded to lapping on his own. I force fed him until then, but as mentioned earlier he would take the syringe of formula in the first few minutes willingly. I know you are completely frustrated but dont give up. If she isnt getting enough nourishment I would definitely think your weight would be plummeting and her energy level at a real slow. Still no interest in canned food? Have you tried mighty dog or lil cesars? These arent the best canned foods i the world but they sure are good for getting puppies to eat for first times. Are you still consistently offering formula in a cup? Let me know how she is today.