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rubymoon2072 06-18-2014 05:36 AM
Ice Water Warning
 
Just incase as I have given mine ice water in the past and I am thankful no adverse affects from it but this is what they say can happen.


NO ICE WATER FOR DOGS…PLEASE READ ASAP | Wendt Worth Corgi's Weblog

ladyjane 06-18-2014 05:52 AM
This is a hoax!!


http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/icewater.asp

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/ice-water...ogs-myth.shtml

rubymoon2072 06-18-2014 06:01 AM
jes well thank you for letting me know! I was worried because sometimes I will do this in the major summer heat and they love it.

Leroy 06-18-2014 06:05 AM
Thank you for posting this. I have also given mine ice water and had no idea this could happen.

Edit: read the above post, it's a myth then?

Teegy 06-18-2014 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4451950)

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rubymoon2072 06-18-2014 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy (Post 4451952)
Thank you for posting this. I have also given mine ice water and had no idea this could happen.

Edit: read the above post, it's a myth then?
yes the snopes article actually gives good detail why it ok ...so yeah a hoax. sorry I posted it as I was not aware it was bad but really it's not so now I've really confused the situation. lol :eek:

Leroy 06-18-2014 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rubymoon2072 (Post 4451958)
yes the snopes article actually gives good detail why it ok ...so yeah a hoax. sorry I posted it as I was not aware it was bad but really it's not so now I've really confused the situation. lol :eek:
lol it's okay. I also found this Dogs and ice water: Is it safe? It says that giving dogs ice could fracture teeth, cause vasoconstriction, or mask underlying problems.

rubymoon2072 06-18-2014 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy (Post 4451964)
lol it's okay. I also found this Dogs and ice water: Is it safe? It says that giving dogs ice could fracture teeth, cause vasoconstriction, or mask underlying problems.
thanks and technically they still don't advise it so I guess I will double check with my vet but stop giving them any until I get her take on it. :)

Wylie's Mom 06-18-2014 07:42 AM
Since the stomach is made of so much muscle, I can see why this made the rounds of FB, blogs, and forums. But I agree w/ snopes in that I highly doubt ice can, in and of itself, cause stomach cramps and/or bloat.

Wylie's Mom 06-18-2014 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy (Post 4451964)
lol it's okay. I also found this Dogs and ice water: Is it safe? It says that giving dogs ice could fracture teeth, cause vasoconstriction, or mask underlying problems.
Those would have to be some pretttty soft teeth in order for them to break via ice. Any appreciable vasoconstriction would be highly unlikely as a result of eating ice - where are they getting this? And what does "mask underlying problems" mean, I wonder? Ie "eating ice totally masks luxating patella!". :rolleyes:

Ah, the interwebs! :p

pstinard 06-18-2014 08:51 AM
Bella loves ice, and I always prechew it into smaller pieces for her, just in case. I also pretreat the ice by soaking it in water so that it is not super-cold. I don't want her getting frostbite in her mouth, or brain freeze (if that's even possible for a Yorkie, LOL!).

ladyjane 06-18-2014 09:18 AM
I have a couple of pups who love ice....sometimes I just let the ice drop to the floor from the ice machine. :)

Lovetodream88 06-18-2014 09:18 AM
I have been told by a vet that ice can break teeth my mom has also been told chewing on ice for humans is a big no no to because it will also break humans teeth.

pstinard 06-18-2014 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4452036)
I have been told by a vet that ice can break teeth my mom has also been told chewing on ice for humans is a big no no to because it will also break humans teeth.
*sigh* I just started reading up on giving ice to dogs to chew on, and the majority consensus of the articles is that it is dangerous to give dogs ice to chew on because it can break teeth. I can't find any research articles on it, but advice columns written by veterinarians say that they have seen cases where dogs have cracked or chipped their teeth by chewing on ice cubes. Now I'll have to find a new "candy" for Bella to chew on, and I'll have to say "no" to her while she constantly stares at my glasses of cold beverages, waiting for me to finishing drinking so she can get the ice cubes :(.

McheleM 06-18-2014 10:10 PM
Chewing ice "occasionally" won't break teeth. If you chew ice constantly, then yes, your teeth can possibly be damaged. My pups love ice, and I give them crushed ice from the freezer as a treat in their water-it's fun to watch them bob for it with their paws.

Ps. I can tell you that I am never without a cup of ice to chew, and I have been that way for a solid 5 years, and my teeth haven't broken. I empty the ice machine at my house and both of them at my office, several times daily, in my constant need to chew ice.


Is ice really that much harder than kibble? Our ice is kind of soft and slushy when it's crushed,,,

margaritaville 06-19-2014 03:38 AM
Someone posted this on my husbands Facebook page and our vet answered back saying its safe to give them ice.

Was this what crashed Facebook last night?

rubymoon2072 06-19-2014 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by margaritaville (Post 4452309)
Someone posted this on my husbands Facebook page and our vet answered back saying its safe to give them ice.

Was this what crashed Facebook last night?

haha I dont know if that was the FB crash last night....I was taking care of my lola all night and not on so much! only via my phone.

megansmomma 06-20-2014 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by margaritaville (Post 4452309)
Someone posted this on my husbands Facebook page and our vet answered back saying its safe to give them ice.

Was this what crashed Facebook last night?
LOL.....could be let me google search that and see what comes up :p I saw the Ice warnings all over FB the other day and by the evening news there was at least one vet who was debunking this as viral internet myth that had resurfaces yet again. All on mine love ice and stand under my feet whenever i use the ice maker on the fridge to catch a piece. :p

rubymoon2072 06-20-2014 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4452954)
LOL.....could be let me google search that and see what comes up :p I saw the Ice warnings all over FB the other day and by the evening news there was at least one vet who was debunking this as viral internet myth that had resurfaces yet again. All on mine love ice and stand under my feet whenever i use the ice maker on the fridge to catch a piece. :p
no that we need video of!! hehe :D

megansmomma 06-20-2014 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rubymoon2072 (Post 4453001)
no that we need video of!! hehe :D
I'll have to see if I can catch Bogey doing his dinner dance....he also does it for ice chips :p

Cha Cha 06-20-2014 10:46 AM
I blame my Sonic addiction on my dogs wanting the leftover ice. :eek: They love it. If you don't know Sonic, they have the BEST ice. LOL

megansmomma 06-20-2014 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 4453013)
I blame my Sonic addiction on my dogs wanting the leftover ice. :eek: They love it. If you don't know Sonic, they have the BEST ice. LOL
YES!!!!! :D I admit it.....I am an ice chewer!

joyce evans 06-21-2014 05:41 PM
Interesting. All of it! I'd say if it's natural for them to eat snow then why not fresh ice. Where are you Ms. Alaska? We need your advise.

Ok I'm being silly!

windwalker 06-22-2014 12:39 AM
What you let them have as puppies affects what they can handle as they get permanent teeth. Sig our Heeler was always trying rocks as a pup until we finally broke that bad habit, but she never broke a tooth on them. I give Ginger ice cubes now, getting her ready for teething which will be starting soon. I think they learn how far to push it if started early with the baby teeth.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2014 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by joyce evans (Post 4453608)
Interesting. All of it! I'd say if it's natural for them to eat snow then why not fresh ice. Where are you Ms. Alaska? We need your advise.

Ok I'm being silly!
Ice is much harder then snow

Lovetodream88 06-22-2014 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by windwalker (Post 4453689)
What you let them have as puppies affects what they can handle as they get permanent teeth. Sig our Heeler was always trying rocks as a pup until we finally broke that bad habit, but she never broke a tooth on them. I give Ginger ice cubes now, getting her ready for teething which will be starting soon. I think they learn how far to push it if started early with the baby teeth.
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Do you have any study's or articles to prove this?

windwalker 06-22-2014 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4453927)
I'm pretty sure that's not true. Do you have any study's or articles to prove this?

I'm not big on proving things, it's my observations over the years, just like skin babies, you learn by burning your hand on stove or falling out of the cherry tree. Take that away and you have someone who never experienced what happens if you goof. I know Ginger tried to crush the ice at first, now she shaves it, I'd rather have her learn on temp teeth then permanent.


Now the big question, wait for it


Which is harder, a Ice Cube or a Steak Bone/Ham Bone ? But I'm sure no one gives dogs Bones, might break their teeth, lol!

Lovetodream88 06-22-2014 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by windwalker (Post 4453944)
I'm not big on proving things, it's my observations over the years, just like skin babies, you learn by burning your hand on stove or falling out of the cherry tree. Take that away and you have someone who never experienced what happens if you goof. I know Ginger tried to crush the ice at first, now she shaves it, I'd rather have her learn on temp teeth then permanent.


Now the big question, wait for it


Which is harder, a Ice Cube or a Steak Bone/Ham Bone ? But I'm sure no one gives dogs Bones, might break their teeth, lol!
I have had the opposite happen. Yes bones do break teeth. Raw has there risks and cooked will splinter. Ham is a huge no no for yorkies it can make them extremely sick. No proof then it's just an opinion.....

107barney 06-23-2014 08:29 AM
I have to add that even if your vet says ice is "Ok" - a veterinary dentist will not say that is ok!

107barney 06-23-2014 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by windwalker (Post 4453689)
What you let them have as puppies affects what they can handle as they get permanent teeth. Sig our Heeler was always trying rocks as a pup until we finally broke that bad habit, but she never broke a tooth on them. I give Ginger ice cubes now, getting her ready for teething which will be starting soon. I think they learn how far to push it if started early with the baby teeth.
Sorry, it's not worth the risk. There are many more "experiences" of the veterinary dentists that are more accurate. There are dogs lining up at vet clinics all across America with cracked teeth from their loving owners providing ice cubes, bones, hard chews, and the like. Sadly, there are probably many more who don't see a vet. This "what you let them have as puppies affects what they can handle as they get permanent teeth" sounds just ridiculous to me (no disrespect meant, just saying it like I read it).


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